Recreating Humanity in a Computer

[FeetOfClay]

Except for the "purpose" where "you" are destroyed. There is no transference of perspective. A person copies themself, dies, and a copy lives on.

With that argument, one could say children operate the same way. My kids will simply be "me" mixed with another person and because they exist, I continue to exist. Its crap.

I mean, some people are happy with that. Happy with the idea that, even though they are now dead, a completely separate entity that is, from an outside perspective, indistinguishable from them continues to exist.

Personally, the only instance in which making a copy of myself is palatable if "I" continue to exist with them. I'd just never get into the whole "who is the original" debate because it simply wouldn't matter. Hopefully my duplicates would continue to feel the same way.

No, the whole point is at the point of replication/destruction, the two entities are identical, same thoughts, experiences, genes, completely identical. Meaning you would go in, and you would come out unchanged. As I said, its no different from deciding to, say turn left instead of right, both ways, there will be slight change in specific atom content and experience, but nothing relevant. This is assuming the replication process is perfect, of course. Also, your children argument is completely invalid, for one you even said that they would be mixed with another person, and thats only genetics, they dont have your experiences, making them completely different people

Transhumanism is just the ignorant geek version of christianity. Instead of saying, "God exists, loves you, and will reward you for following his word" its "We'll create god, and it'll be so grateful it'll reward us. All we have to do is continue to be perfect little capitalists."

Also, no, transhumanism is saying 'Humans are alright, but lets make them better'.

 

[Cynical skeptic]

No, the whole point is at the point of replication/destruction, the two entities are identical, same thoughts, experiences, genes, completely identical. Meaning you would go in, and you would come out unchanged. As I said, its no different from deciding to, say turn left instead of right, both ways, there will be slight change in specific atom content and experience, but nothing relevant. This is assuming the replication process is perfect, of course. Also, your children argument is completely invalid, for one you even said that they would be mixed with another person, and thats only genetics, they dont have your experiences, making them completely different people.

Yes, to an outside perspective, nothing changes except location. But as far as you are concerned, the replicate is also an outside perspective. You will never see through it's eyes. Your perspective won't transfer to it. You will step into this hypothetical machine, get scanned, then be destroyed, and something that (from an outside perspective) is you in every way, shape, and form, will live on.

Also, transhumanism means something outside of humanity will transform humanity.

 

[FeetOfClay]

No, as far as you are concerned, you walk into a booth, maybe black out for a second, and walk out.
As for transhumanism, it has nothing to do with any outside influences, the whole point is humans making humans better through technology, anything from resistance to disease to, well, anything.
Finally, if this thread remains just you and me, I'm not going to reply.