Red Riding hood, Really?

[Dr_Horrible]

It's based off a young adult book, so I'm not expecting too much.

Except that the story of red riding hood is about as far from today's PG-rated version as I am from a sheep. The real, older stories are very dark, violent, and far more interesting. As I said the first time I saw the trailer, why couldn't they have just played it straight, instead of turning it into a Twilight-clone?

Guess I'm just too picky about film these days...

Like you I would love to see the real, darker telling of most of the old tales. As they were meant to be. But they're going with whats selling right now. And who has more expandable cash then rabid teenage girls waiting for the next Twilight.

Yeah, you're exactly right. The public seems to want paranormal romance, so the industry gives them paranormal romance. I figure I'll just continue to wait this trend out with classic horror movies and indie stuff until 'good' becomes popular again... It's worked fairly well so far.

Sometimes I really feel like they're running out of original ideas. Or, maybe it's more like they're playing it safe, with what they know ill sell semi well then tossing money away on what might not.

I think that it's exactly like what you said previously, they make what sells. The problem is that each movie they make like this, it just reinforces the trend and convincing people it's what they want. I can only hope that something happens to stop this whole thing in its tracks before it does any more damage to the film industry. There are plenty of sources of original ideas these days, the problem is that Hollywood refuses to look for them because it doesn't guarantee instant ticket sales. As it is, the only real way an original movie idea can make it into the mainstream is via the Sundance film festival (or other things like it), which is rather difficult to reach for certain types of independent productions.

 

[Mondai Randy]

Gary Oldman = automatic watch for me

 

[Kurt Horsting]

Can I just start murdering people that will show up to this? They are probably quite stupid and no one will miss them. Consider it a service to humanity by clearing out the stupid in our culture.

 

[Yoshemo]

Also isnt Red Riding Hood directed by the same guy who directed Twilight?

I think I have said enough.

To be fair, he did the best he could for a complete crap of a script. If you look at the movie, the cinematography is great. Just the story completely destroys the movie

 

[Jared Berg]

nobody murdering anyones childhood its aduptation the movie looks bad on its own right but its the same thing with transformers the movies werent great but what can u do with a tv show created to sell toys if a movie can kill your childhood i hate to say it and dont mean to offend anyone but thats a little sad

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Dude, think about most "fairy tales" out there. Little girl is stalked by a wolf, then is eaten alongside here aging grandmother. A pair of twins get lost in a forest, tricked by a creepy women living along, then eaten. I'm drawing a blank on many of the other fairy tales out there, but when they originally came about they usually weren't to entertain kids. They were made to scare the fuck out of them so they wouldn't do certain things.

Turning them into horror stories is just returning them to their roots.

...the wolf made little red drink her grandmothers blood....ohh my friend you need to really read the original story....shit would stop you from ever wanting to go outside again lol....there is a reason there name "Grim" lives on in infamy.

Oh I know that some of the old fairy tales are pretty fucked up in their original versions. That's the reason why I brought it up. I mean think about it. Girl goes to her aging grandmother's house. Meets a wolf along the way that stalks her and then kills her grandma. He then precedes to feed some of it to Red and eventually eat her. A hunter that's been following the wolf manages to find the grandmother's house and then kills the wolf and cuts Red Riding Hood out. Talk about fucked up. And there are others like Bluebeard where the guy kills all each of his wives in turn, marries a new women and tells her not to go into a certain room, she does anyway and he kills her. The moral of the story? Don't be curious women! And there's the original Cinderalla where the step-mother and step-sisters have their eyes poked out by birds...

Why do we tell these stories to kids again?

 

[Gudrests]

Dude, think about most "fairy tales" out there. Little girl is stalked by a wolf, then is eaten alongside here aging grandmother. A pair of twins get lost in a forest, tricked by a creepy women living along, then eaten. I'm drawing a blank on many of the other fairy tales out there, but when they originally came about they usually weren't to entertain kids. They were made to scare the fuck out of them so they wouldn't do certain things.

Turning them into horror stories is just returning them to their roots.

...the wolf made little red drink her grandmothers blood....ohh my friend you need to really read the original story....shit would stop you from ever wanting to go outside again lol....there is a reason there name "Grim" lives on in infamy.

Oh I know that some of the old fairy tales are pretty fucked up in their original versions. That's the reason why I brought it up. I mean think about it. Girl goes to her aging grandmother's house. Meets a wolf along the way that stalks her and then kills her grandma. He then precedes to feed some of it to Red and eventually eat her. A hunter that's been following the wolf manages to find the grandmother's house and then kills the wolf and cuts Red Riding Hood out. Talk about fucked up. And there are others like Bluebeard where the guy kills all each of his wives in turn, marries a new women and tells her not to go into a certain room, she does anyway and he kills her. The moral of the story? Don't be curious women! And there's the original Cinderalla where the step-mother and step-sisters have their eyes poked out by birds...

Why do we tell these stories to kids again?

you forgot where the step-sisters cut off part of there heel to fit into the shoe.....moral of the story....DONT BE A ....idk truthfully Don't ask Disney Questions

 

[NuclearPenguin]

Directed by the same guy who directed Twilight indeed.
Also, Brothers Grim.

I oddly liked Brothers Grimm. It was one of the few primarily horror movies that appealed to me.

Also, and this is important... what the HECK is going on in your avatar? Is that some like, smoke no-jitzu shit being done there? How I make bubble go away?

That is a smoke bubble made with soap and filled with smoke.
Then being popped on someones head.
Its awesome in so many ways.

 

[DustyDrB]

I'd like to see this as a Tim Burton animated movie. Though he did screw up Alice...

 

[Gentleman_Reptile]

Dude, think about most "fairy tales" out there. Little girl is stalked by a wolf, then is eaten alongside here aging grandmother. A pair of twins get lost in a forest, tricked by a creepy women living along, then eaten. I'm drawing a blank on many of the other fairy tales out there, but when they originally came about they usually weren't to entertain kids. They were made to scare the fuck out of them so they wouldn't do certain things.

Turning them into horror stories is just returning them to their roots.

I think what is turning alot of people (including me) off about the movie is not that its just taking an age old story archetype and dressing it up with different characters and setting (aka Dances With Wolves, Pochahontas, Fern Gulley, Avatar), it's that the movie is just piggybacking off the name recognition of "Red Riding Hood" and then using the basic story to make another terrible movie about a dipshit girl falling in love with an utterly boring supernatural guy.

It's just made purely to ride the wave of money generated by the bafflingly large Twilight audience.

I mean, for crying out loud, I watched the trailer and could not get over the fact that one of the brooding "I'm dangerous but I like you so maybe not" pretty boys had his hair spiked up with industrial gel. IN A MEDIEVAL VILLAGE. You cannot tell me that this will be anything but a Twilight cashin that just ruins a good story with its sickly, angst ridden garbage.

 

[VaudevillianVeteran]

Saw it as a preview when I went to see Black Swan. I think the alarm bells rang when I saw 'Starring Amanda Seyfried' and 'From the director of Twilight'. Suffice to say, I won't be seeing it, nor do I care much about it. But I suppose the concept is a bit interesting and the backgrounds and such are aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Gentleman_Reptile]

i have a guess on what they will do after this movie:
take goldilocks and the three bears.
goldi is in college and meets baby bear (BB/beary) who happens to be able to switch from human to bear.
he invites her to his house in the woods.
his parents reject her.
but she sneaks in his room every now and then durring the night.

can you see where i'm going with this?
and if so; do you honestly doubt this piece of crap will be made?
show of hands?
anyone?

It crossed my mind, and I really didnt want to think about it.....but yeah.....that doesent seem farfetched.

*sobbing*

 

[manythings]

You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.

Yes. Yes it is. Red Riding hood is a good girl. Shit, she's here to help her grandma. I guess the lesson was, good intentions are no shield from harm. Or maybe don't trust strangers. Or maybe "watch your ass in the woods." Heck there's a lot of good lessons there.

Read the old, OLD version. It involves bestiality, sometimes cannibalism and there sure as shit isn't a woodsman to save the day.

I don't remember a version with bestiality.

In some versions Red offers (or the wolf coerces her into) sex in exchange for letting her go.

 

[Ghengis John]

You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.

Yes. Yes it is. Red Riding hood is a good girl. Shit, she's here to help her grandma. I guess the lesson was, good intentions are no shield from harm. Or maybe don't trust strangers. Or maybe "watch your ass in the woods." Heck there's a lot of good lessons there.

Read the old, OLD version. It involves bestiality, sometimes cannibalism and there sure as shit isn't a woodsman to save the day.

I don't remember a version with bestiality.

In some versions Red offers (or the wolf coerces her into) sex in exchange for letting her go.

No. No I don't believe that at all. Find me one.

 

[Nouw]

I really want to hate this movie on principle, but it has Gary Oldman in it, so I can't bring myself to do so.

Tho GO wouldn't let me down!

-m

Gary Oldman you say? Yup I'm watching it.

 

[Endocrom]

I'd rather have a movie of this

 

[Endocrom]

I really want to hate this movie on principle, but it has Gary Oldman in it, so I can't bring myself to do so.

Tho GO wouldn't let me down!

-m

I'm guessing you haven't seen Interstate 60

 

[DocBalance]

God, I'm going to regret posting this. I don't actually think the directing in Twilight was that bad.

Look, look, I know, Twilight bad, burn it to the ground, so on and so forth. But I think the source material and actors had more to do with it's horribleness more than anything else. There are a few scenes, such as the baseball scene, that are just thematically impressive and well done. You completely forget for a second you are watching a bullshit movie about tween vampires and actually get into it for a second. All in all, I think this movie has great potential.

 

[DJDarque]

This movie does not look good from what I've seen.

I am, however, very interested in this.

 

[Dwarfman]

You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.

Yes. Yes it is. Red Riding hood is a good girl. Shit, she's here to help her grandma. I guess the lesson was, good intentions are no shield from harm. Or maybe don't trust strangers. Or maybe "watch your ass in the woods." Heck there's a lot of good lessons there.

Read the old, OLD version. It involves bestiality, sometimes cannibalism and there sure as shit isn't a woodsman to save the day.

I don't remember a version with bestiality.

There is a version before the Brothers Grimm by Charles Perrault which involves the Wolf suggesting that Little Red should get into bed with 'Grandma'. This is to sleep off the large meal that they had shared which had made Little Red sleepy - of course unknown to poor Little Red the stew was in fact her Grandma!! Although not present in Perrault's tale some of the folk stories claim the wolf convinces Little Red to take her clothes off before jumping in.

Apparently this beastiality/cannibalism aspect didn't come into play until the late 1500s with trial of Peter Stumpp (source - wikipedia). Peter Stumpp was tried for murder and cannibalism. Because of his large hairy demeaner (And the fact that during his torture/trial he confessed to recieving a gift from the devil so he might change into a wolf) he was known as 'werewolf of Bedburg'. The beastiality aspect I suspect stems from Stumpps daughter who was tried along with her Father with the charges of cannibalism and incest.