Reddit Bans Subreddits about Making Fun of Fat People, Neogaf, and others.

[Josh123914]

But they didn't even remove the shitheads, they just repo'd their apartment in a way that the lease never said they could. Now these shitheads are hanging around and sleeping the couches of other people's houses.
At least when they were dealing weed before it was in their own little zone. Now they've been hauled out in a way that nobody knew was allowed to happen before, and many other subs are afraid they'll be next. Going so far as to set up a new apartment in that place Voat.co across the street.

If I were a homeowner, then kicking out the shitheads and letting them ruin other people's houses, like Voat.co across the street, would be the PERFECT result.

They don't have to really censor assholes away from the Internet, just from reddit.

Let all the scum gather elsewhere, and leave reddit for normal people who have no fear of getting banned for harrassment.

But many of these shitheads are still on the site, instead bringing their discussions to those houses /r/GetMotivated and /r/Funny. The tenants there are now also wondering why these guys were kicked out for "harassment", while SRS around the corner houses people that frequently shove bags of poop in other's letterboxes.

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

They can just get shadowbanned. If they run around being stupid other places then they should be, should they not?

And is SRS that bad? I half suspect it's an ideological thing there. I hear all the complaints from *certain* corners.

And tbh I wouldn't give a damn about them. But short of some conspiracy theory thinking I doubt they will get the boot on a poltical basis, just like I doubt it was political to ban fph

FPH was banned on the grounds of harassment. However, their mods have always had a strict policy on keeping content made in FPH within FPH.
Meanwhile in the SRS network, regardless of political affiliation is notorious for linking other posts and vote brigading on subjects they don't like. To ban FPH while leaving another subreddit which users in other subs have been complaining about for years untouched just reeks of being unfair to me.

And shadowbanning users?
After having their subreddit (which there still hasn't been a justified reason from the admins) removed?
We're talking about thousands of users here. A complete purge, many of these users being completely law abiding in the other subreddits they would obviously browse.
You do realise that an act of this magnitude would cause thousands of unaffiliated users to jump ship to other sites, right?
I mean look at the front page of /r/all. Few outsiders on reddit actually agree with FPH or support their views, but are opposing the deletions and fear their favoured subreddits will be next.

And no, not all of the subreddits that fear deletion are shitty before anybody insinuates that

 

[DrOswald]

So you're just writing against the perpetually outraged to stop being perpetually outraged?

Did I say that? Even paraphrasing aside, did anything I say translate into that?

Don't get me wrong, that would be AMAZING, but I'm not exactly holding my breath.

I mean, it's their posts, they can do what they want, and be as stupid and illogical as they want, what do you care?

That's the exact same logic you use.

Of course they can do what they want.

Ostensibly, it is easier for me to effect change in an individual I have direct access to than to effect change on the CEO of a completely different website by whining about her in here. That's one notable difference.

Unless you can provide an alternate explanation.

Reddit being a for-profit company, the likeliest explanation is something legally murky cropped up and they are covering their ass.

Again, if there was something legally murky in the banned subreddits then there are legally murky things going on in other subreddits. There was nothing special about fatpeoplehate and the others. It still begs the question of why these 5 which are, by all accounts, the lesser evils in basically every way. Compare to HurtingAnimals, which is dedicated to actual illegal activity, shielded by the weakest defense of "you can't prove it is actually us doing these things".

It is the same problem, if potential illegality is the problem, why the make fun of fat people thread and not the animal torture thread?

Again, the only viable explanations seem to be personal agenda, testing the water, and banning in waves. Gotta be one or some combination of those.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

But they didn't even remove the shitheads, they just repo'd their apartment in a way that the lease never said they could. Now these shitheads are hanging around and sleeping the couches of other people's houses.
At least when they were dealing weed before it was in their own little zone. Now they've been hauled out in a way that nobody knew was allowed to happen before, and many other subs are afraid they'll be next. Going so far as to set up a new apartment in that place Voat.co across the street.

If I were a homeowner, then kicking out the shitheads and letting them ruin other people's houses, like Voat.co across the street, would be the PERFECT result.

They don't have to really censor assholes away from the Internet, just from reddit.

Let all the scum gather elsewhere, and leave reddit for normal people who have no fear of getting banned for harrassment.

But many of these shitheads are still on the site, instead bringing their discussions to those houses /r/GetMotivated and /r/Funny. The tenants there are now also wondering why these guys were kicked out for "harassment", while SRS around the corner houses people that frequently shove bags of poop in other's letterboxes.

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

They can just get shadowbanned. If they run around being stupid other places then they should be, should they not?

And is SRS that bad? I half suspect it's an ideological thing there. I hear all the complaints from *certain* corners.

And tbh I wouldn't give a damn about them. But short of some conspiracy theory thinking I doubt they will get the boot on a poltical basis, just like I doubt it was political to ban fph

FPH was banned on the grounds of harassment. However, their mods have always had a strict policy on keeping content made in FPH within FPH.
Meanwhile in the SRS network, regardless of political affiliation is notorious for linking other posts and vote brigading on subjects they don't like. To ban FPH while leaving another subreddit which users in other subs have been complaining about for years untouched just reeks of being unfair to me.

And shadowbanning users?
After having their subreddit (which there still hasn't been a justified reason from the admins) removed?
We're talking about thousands[/i] of users here. A complete purge, many of these users being completely law abiding in the other subreddits they would obviously browse.
You do realise that an act of this magnitude would cause thousands of unaffiliated users to jump ship to other sites, right?
I mean look at the front page of /r/all. Few outsiders on reddit actually agree with FPH or support their views, but are opposing the deletions and fear their favoured subreddits will be next.

And no, not all of the subreddits that fear deletion are shitty before anybody insinuates that

Right because saying strict policy is evidence of such working out that way.

Vote brigading isn't harassment. Funnily enough one is a bit worse than the other. Also people you hang around complaining about it isn't exactly a good reason to ban it. Funny how it works when it's someone else

Well if they are behaving fine why the whining about them ending up in other subs? Can't have it both ways. Don't complain about them fleeing elsewhere unless they cause trouble. If they are causing trouble don't whine that they are innocent

And there are tin foil hats everywhere. Oh no people are irrationally scared. So what?

 

[Josh123914]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

So who started with calling it 'dangerous'?

I wouldn't be surprised if people suspect you're right wing because there's a large hint of red scare mentality

 

[BloatedGuppy]

It still begs the question of why these 5 which are, by all accounts, the lesser evils in basically every way.

It does indeed beg that question. It's the primary reason why "this is clearly ideological" is such a wobbly argument. I would imagine the content of the reddits isn't the issue, it's something specific that took place on them.

Again, the only viable explanations seem to be personal agenda, testing the water, and banning in waves. Gotta be one or some combination of those.

I disagree. Honestly, without access to the same information they used to make their decisions, any speculation on the subject is completely blind, and bound to be colored by bias. Given these forums are home to a populace that sees ideologically based "leftist" conspiracies lurking around every tent pole, it's something I would need to see exhaustive proof in support of before I'd even begin to entertain it.

 

[Josh123914]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

So who started with calling it 'dangerous'?

I wouldn't be surprised if people suspect you're right wing because there's a large hint of red scare mentality

Please explain in detail how me opposing the site's new shift in policy against a less tolerant administration is now "right wing".
As for the Chairman Pao poster above, that's a parody I saw last week. The iconography and everything is getting pretty popular on the site. Repeating it doesn't make me right wing, and neither does opposing the admin's double standards.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

So who started with calling it 'dangerous'?

I wouldn't be surprised if people suspect you're right wing because there's a large hint of red scare mentality

Please explain in detail how me opposing the site's new shift in policy against a less tolerant administration is now "right wing".
As for the Chairman Pao poster above, that's a parody I saw last week. The iconography and everything is getting pretty popular on the site. Repeating it doesn't make me right wing, and neither does opposing the admin's double standards.

LOL. Right after you show me where I said that XD

You are exuding red scare mentality all over. Y'know the bit about bringing up her politics and all. Ahhh she's a scary radical leftist and all. And the 'dangerous' ideas bit, trying to make motives up like that says it all. You're trying to pin a particular 'scary' set of political motives on her.

 

[Longing]

Redditors are such whiny little babies. I cannot for the life of me understand the kind of people who would spend all of their days relentlessly mocking others. What sad, sad little people.

Wow... I was never really familiar with Reddit, and now I thank God for that.

Just so you know, Reddit isn't some unified community. There are subreddits like the ones mentioned in this thread, and yeah, they're pretty fucking awful(but then there's subreddits that spoof them like /r/farpeoplehate [http://www.reddit.com/r/farpeoplehate/]). And there are political and activist related subreddits that are pretty much giant echo chambers.

But then there are topic-focused subreddits. And those are some of the best places to discuss a specific topic to be found. They can be broad, like /r/anime/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/] or /r/visualnovels/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/], or you can get more specific, such as /r/projecteternity/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/] or /r/xkcd/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/]. Want to learn how to draw? /r/artfundamentals/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/ArtFundamentals/] wouldn't be a bad place to start. Or try /r/learnjapanese/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/] to start learning a new language(if the language you want to learn happens to be Japanese). Maybe you feel like listening to music and want to try something new. /r/listentothis/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/] has you covered.

Reddit definitely has its dark and grungy side, but overall, it's the best place I've found for discussing most of the topics I'm interested in, including gaming.

#notallredditors

I'm aware of how reddit works thank you, but it's kinda hard to see the good side when the whole front page is people being mad that their favorite subreddit got banned.

 

[Josh123914]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

So who started with calling it 'dangerous'?

I wouldn't be surprised if people suspect you're right wing because there's a large hint of red scare mentality

Please explain in detail how me opposing the site's new shift in policy against a less tolerant administration is now "right wing".
As for the Chairman Pao poster above, that's a parody I saw last week. The iconography and everything is getting pretty popular on the site. Repeating it doesn't make me right wing, and neither does opposing the admin's double standards.

LOL. Right after you show me where I said that XD

You are exuding red scare mentality all over. Y'know the bit about bringing up her politics and all. Ahhh she's a scary radical leftist and all. And the 'dangerous' ideas bit, trying to make motives up like that says it all. You're trying to pin a particular 'scary' set of political motives on her.

Oh, sorry I didn't mean to attribute "dangerous" to you. It was a mod on reddit when someone asked them about why some subs were banned and others weren't:
http://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/
It's in there somewhere.

And I don't even mind what her political views are. The leader of the Westboro Baptist Church could be an admin as long as they did their jobs properly.
The problem I have is that some of her comments regarding the site contradict what previous CEOs have said (keep in mind Pao is still currently listed as "Interim CEO"), and gives off this idea that she doesn't know what she's doing;
http://www.reddit.com/r/rulefollower/comments/39fzyd/mfw_reddit_ceo_ellen_pao_doesnt_know_how_to_use/

If I was getting into the same level of concern if a far right republican started banning subreddit would you be criticizing me for being leftist?
And be honest, I want to know how far I should be going with this.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

What, effective forum moderation on Reddit?

Well that's neat. They should probably get to the bans on people being idiots with the swastika flags on r/all next.

Not that they're breaking rules, per se, but because nothing of value would be lost.

 

[VanQ]

Interestingly, there's a petition to get Pao fired that has attracted a fair amount of support. https://www.change.org/p/reddit-remove-ellen-pao-from-her-job-as-reddit-ceo

When her first truly defining move as CEO was to make enemies of 150,000 subscribers, would it be victim blaming to say she asked for it? Not that I expect this to go anywhere or make any difference.

 

[DrOswald]

Redditors are such whiny little babies. I cannot for the life of me understand the kind of people who would spend all of their days relentlessly mocking others. What sad, sad little people.

Wow... I was never really familiar with Reddit, and now I thank God for that.

Just so you know, Reddit isn't some unified community. There are subreddits like the ones mentioned in this thread, and yeah, they're pretty fucking awful(but then there's subreddits that spoof them like /r/farpeoplehate [http://www.reddit.com/r/farpeoplehate/]). And there are political and activist related subreddits that are pretty much giant echo chambers.

But then there are topic-focused subreddits. And those are some of the best places to discuss a specific topic to be found. They can be broad, like /r/anime/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/] or /r/visualnovels/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/], or you can get more specific, such as /r/projecteternity/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/] or /r/xkcd/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/]. Want to learn how to draw? /r/artfundamentals/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/ArtFundamentals/] wouldn't be a bad place to start. Or try /r/learnjapanese/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/] to start learning a new language(if the language you want to learn happens to be Japanese). Maybe you feel like listening to music and want to try something new. /r/listentothis/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/] has you covered.

Reddit definitely has its dark and grungy side, but overall, it's the best place I've found for discussing most of the topics I'm interested in, including gaming.

#notallredditors

I'm aware of how reddit works thank you, but it's kinda hard to see the good side when the whole front page is people being mad that their favorite subreddit got banned.

I just went to the front page of reddit, and there is not a single post about this. We got several cute animals, we got a guy looking at the ISS with his telescope, we got a thing about fedex having mail slots in the side of their trucks, we got Neil deGrasse Tyson's AMA. Nothing about subreddits getting banned.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

So who started with calling it 'dangerous'?

I wouldn't be surprised if people suspect you're right wing because there's a large hint of red scare mentality

Please explain in detail how me opposing the site's new shift in policy against a less tolerant administration is now "right wing".
As for the Chairman Pao poster above, that's a parody I saw last week. The iconography and everything is getting pretty popular on the site. Repeating it doesn't make me right wing, and neither does opposing the admin's double standards.

LOL. Right after you show me where I said that XD

You are exuding red scare mentality all over. Y'know the bit about bringing up her politics and all. Ahhh she's a scary radical leftist and all. And the 'dangerous' ideas bit, trying to make motives up like that says it all. You're trying to pin a particular 'scary' set of political motives on her.

Oh, sorry I didn't mean to attribute "dangerous" to you. It was a mod on reddit when someone asked them about why some subs were banned and others weren't:
http://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/
It's in there somewhere.

And I don't even mind what her political views are. The leader of the Westboro Baptist Church could be an admin as long as they did their jobs properly.
The problem I have is that some of her comments regarding the site contradict what previous CEOs have said (keep in mind Pao is still currently listed as "Interim CEO"), and gives off this idea that she doesn't know what she's doing;
http://www.reddit.com/r/rulefollower/comments/39fzyd/mfw_reddit_ceo_ellen_pao_doesnt_know_how_to_use/

If I was getting into the same level of concern if a far right republican started banning subreddit would you be criticizing me for being leftist?
And be honest, I want to know how far I should be going with this.

The problem I have is with bringing her views up as part of it. That's the bit where I'm seeing a particular mentality. So far the bans have not been skewed towards a particular political view unless hating fat people is now a political thing. I also never said you were of a particular view, I said I could see where people may guess it.

As for a far right Republican, my thoughts would depend on if it appeared their political views were relevant. The subs do not look like political targets.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

If I was getting into the same level of concern if a far right republican started banning subreddit would you be criticizing me for being leftist?

And be honest, I want to know how far I should be going with this.

I don't think it's about "leftist" or "conservative". It's ideologically based scare-mongering.

X believes Y, therefore they are TERRIFYING, and HERE TO DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE. Or in this case, our way of Redditing.

If she's as incompetent as people believe, I'm sure she'll be removed. From reading this thread, I'm to understand she's mentally ill, has delusions of grandeur and a mad lust for power, and is willing to plow under the company (and with it her salary) in pursuit of a highly specific and targeted ideological crusade. It's a wonder she ever got the job at all, and shouldn't be long in it. That's a problem that would inevitably be self-correcting.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Interestingly, there's a petition to get Pao fired that has attracted a fair amount of support. https://www.change.org/p/reddit-remove-ellen-pao-from-her-job-as-reddit-ceo

When her first truly defining move as CEO was to make enemies of 150,000 subscribers, would it be victim blaming to say she asked for it? Not that I expect this to go anywhere or make any difference.

The main thing I'm upset about here is that this petition has more signers than the one to prosecute three girls for dousing a cat in accelerant and then setting it on fire while they filmed it.

 

[Longing]

Redditors are such whiny little babies. I cannot for the life of me understand the kind of people who would spend all of their days relentlessly mocking others. What sad, sad little people.

Wow... I was never really familiar with Reddit, and now I thank God for that.

Just so you know, Reddit isn't some unified community. There are subreddits like the ones mentioned in this thread, and yeah, they're pretty fucking awful(but then there's subreddits that spoof them like /r/farpeoplehate [http://www.reddit.com/r/farpeoplehate/]). And there are political and activist related subreddits that are pretty much giant echo chambers.

But then there are topic-focused subreddits. And those are some of the best places to discuss a specific topic to be found. They can be broad, like /r/anime/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/] or /r/visualnovels/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/], or you can get more specific, such as /r/projecteternity/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/] or /r/xkcd/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/]. Want to learn how to draw? /r/artfundamentals/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/ArtFundamentals/] wouldn't be a bad place to start. Or try /r/learnjapanese/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/] to start learning a new language(if the language you want to learn happens to be Japanese). Maybe you feel like listening to music and want to try something new. /r/listentothis/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/] has you covered.

Reddit definitely has its dark and grungy side, but overall, it's the best place I've found for discussing most of the topics I'm interested in, including gaming.

#notallredditors

I'm aware of how reddit works thank you, but it's kinda hard to see the good side when the whole front page is people being mad that their favorite subreddit got banned.

I just went to the front page of reddit, and there is not a single post about this. We got several cute animals, we got a guy looking at the ISS with his telescope, we got a thing about fedex having mail slots in the side of their trucks, we got Neil deGrasse Tyson's AMA. Nothing about subreddits getting banned.

49 out of 50 of the top posts yesterday were about this so I guess they cleaned it up.

Spoiler

edit: No they did not clean it up because I just went on there and a big majority of the top posts are still about this. jesus christ people.

 

[VanQ]

Interestingly, there's a petition to get Pao fired that has attracted a fair amount of support. https://www.change.org/p/reddit-remove-ellen-pao-from-her-job-as-reddit-ceo

When her first truly defining move as CEO was to make enemies of 150,000 subscribers, would it be victim blaming to say she asked for it? Not that I expect this to go anywhere or make any difference.

The main thing I'm upset about here is that this petition has more signers than the one to prosecute three girls for dousing a cat in accelerant and then setting it on fire while they filmed it.

Well your problem there is expecting a petition to do anything about that. Take that video to /b/ and the criminals will likely be located and reported to their local authorities within minutes.

 

[Silence]

Redditors are such whiny little babies. I cannot for the life of me understand the kind of people who would spend all of their days relentlessly mocking others. What sad, sad little people.

Wow... I was never really familiar with Reddit, and now I thank God for that.

Just so you know, Reddit isn't some unified community. There are subreddits like the ones mentioned in this thread, and yeah, they're pretty fucking awful(but then there's subreddits that spoof them like /r/farpeoplehate [http://www.reddit.com/r/farpeoplehate/]). And there are political and activist related subreddits that are pretty much giant echo chambers.

But then there are topic-focused subreddits. And those are some of the best places to discuss a specific topic to be found. They can be broad, like /r/anime/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/] or /r/visualnovels/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/], or you can get more specific, such as /r/projecteternity/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/] or /r/xkcd/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/]. Want to learn how to draw? /r/artfundamentals/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/ArtFundamentals/] wouldn't be a bad place to start. Or try /r/learnjapanese/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/] to start learning a new language(if the language you want to learn happens to be Japanese). Maybe you feel like listening to music and want to try something new. /r/listentothis/ [http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/] has you covered.

Reddit definitely has its dark and grungy side, but overall, it's the best place I've found for discussing most of the topics I'm interested in, including gaming.

#notallredditors

I'm aware of how reddit works thank you, but it's kinda hard to see the good side when the whole front page is people being mad that their favorite subreddit got banned.

I just went to the front page of reddit, and there is not a single post about this. We got several cute animals, we got a guy looking at the ISS with his telescope, we got a thing about fedex having mail slots in the side of their trucks, we got Neil deGrasse Tyson's AMA. Nothing about subreddits getting banned.

Go to r/all, the front page has weird algorithms, I think there are no posts from new subreddits. Not that I know how that works.

 

[Josh123914]

Besides, the new landlady has expressed her distaste for the people in /r/TumblrinAction & /r/Kotakuinaction for having different political views than her. Should we as tenants stand by if / when they are evicted?

I'm not saying what YOU should do, but if some people hear about fatpeoplehate getting banned, and their first thought is that they might be next, and migrate to voat, that's still better for reddit than them staying there, given what kind of people would think "wait, our politics are more similar to FatPeopleHate's than to Pao's!"

Worst case scenario, if sub bans become ideologically motivated, poli-reddit will become dominated politically leftist ideologues, while voat becomes a landfill for reactionaries and bigots. That would still affect an absurdly small fraction of reddit's overall audience, as most people are simply not there for the political circlejerks, and it would very likely save the site from a Digg-like ruination through right wing brigading.

I think a lot of people are in limbo right now. Voat can't handle the strain of all the new users at the minute and so most users are hanging around waiting for either that or further admin action before making another move.

Hang on? Are you implying the only people who would have issue with a Left wing authoritarian stance taken by admins would be reactionaries, bigots and members of the right wing?

Because I'm left wing (European Left at that), and take serious issue with the crackdown on supposed "dangerous" thoughts. The FPHaters are gonna hate anyway, so rather than contain it, Pao has opened the floodgates and now I don't think support for the group has ever been higher.

So who started with calling it 'dangerous'?

I wouldn't be surprised if people suspect you're right wing because there's a large hint of red scare mentality

Please explain in detail how me opposing the site's new shift in policy against a less tolerant administration is now "right wing".
As for the Chairman Pao poster above, that's a parody I saw last week. The iconography and everything is getting pretty popular on the site. Repeating it doesn't make me right wing, and neither does opposing the admin's double standards.

LOL. Right after you show me where I said that XD

You are exuding red scare mentality all over. Y'know the bit about bringing up her politics and all. Ahhh she's a scary radical leftist and all. And the 'dangerous' ideas bit, trying to make motives up like that says it all. You're trying to pin a particular 'scary' set of political motives on her.

Oh, sorry I didn't mean to attribute "dangerous" to you. It was a mod on reddit when someone asked them about why some subs were banned and others weren't:
http://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/
It's in there somewhere.

And I don't even mind what her political views are. The leader of the Westboro Baptist Church could be an admin as long as they did their jobs properly.
The problem I have is that some of her comments regarding the site contradict what previous CEOs have said (keep in mind Pao is still currently listed as "Interim CEO"), and gives off this idea that she doesn't know what she's doing;
http://www.reddit.com/r/rulefollower/comments/39fzyd/mfw_reddit_ceo_ellen_pao_doesnt_know_how_to_use/

If I was getting into the same level of concern if a far right republican started banning subreddit would you be criticizing me for being leftist?
And be honest, I want to know how far I should be going with this.

The problem I have is with bringing her views up as part of it. That's the bit where I'm seeing a particular mentality. So far the bans have not been skewed towards a particular political view unless hating fat people is now a political thing. I also never said you were of a particular view, I said I could see where people may guess it.

As for a far right Republican, my thoughts would depend on if it appeared their political views were relevant. The subs do not look like political targets.

It's not that FatPeopleHate lies on a political spectrum or something.
Its that a more infamous subreddit (SRS) is politically motivated but was spared. People have speculated its because the sub and Pao have overlapping political views. Also her husband may or may not have laundered money. It's a long story that even some of it I don't believe.

If I was getting into the same level of concern if a far right republican started banning subreddit would you be criticizing me for being leftist?

And be honest, I want to know how far I should be going with this.

I don't think it's about "leftist" or "conservative". It's ideologically based scare-mongering.

X believes Y, therefore they are TERRIFYING, and HERE TO DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE. Or in this case, our way of Redditing.

If she's as incompetent as people believe, I'm sure she'll be removed. From reading this thread, I'm to understand she's mentally ill, has delusions of grandeur and a mad lust for power, and is willing to plow under the company (and with it her salary) in pursuit of a highly specific and targeted ideological crusade. It's a wonder she ever got the job at all, and shouldn't be long in it. That's a problem that would inevitably be self-correcting.

Well, rest assured I am not right wing. Even if somehow that was a bad thing, I am not.

Besides, I don't even think Pao is doing it out of malice. She may be steered by her political affiliation, but (I think) is ultimately doing this to make the site more appealing to advertisers and potential shareholders.
The problem is she went about this in a very roundabout way, and faced very loud opposition from even unaffected users.