Regular Artists that draw porn.

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Dragonbums said:
I'm not talking about artists that draw porn all the time.

I am talking about artistic people that draw, paint, and/or photograph safe for work creations for the most part, but whenever their urges get the best of them, they often make a side blog, or a secret website to post all of their self indulgence porn.

I know a couple of artists on my Tumblr that do that sort of stuff. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't bother me. However, I don't know if I'm just a tumblr anomaly or if this is an opinion that is generally accepted by a large amount of people.

Also, I am curious as to whether or not this will damage their reputations greatly in the future.
I know being labelled with anything porn can destroy a person's reputation in any job field.

Is it much worse for artists?
Sure there is a risk your fans may find out, but as long as you keep that other side of yourself private and drama free, would it really matter to the general public?
Why should I care what they do in their spare time? I'm not the one making it. That's how I feel anyway.

It's their own artistic license and right to do with their skillset what they please, and if you feel like cranking out some nudes on the side, or full time, that's your perogative. Nobody has the right to tell someone what they can and cannot draw, that sort of thinking mostly went out long ago, when it started becoming socially acceptable to not just paint portraits and biblical scenes. Of course, people painted pornographic images even back then.

I guess I figure if you have the skills to crank out good work, and you have the skills to crank out good pronz, then do both if you feel like it. You got it, flaunt it.
 

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Dragonbums said:
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It really depends on what you consider to be "porn."

I mean, artists often draw nudes, does that count as porn? I'm sure it does to some people, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who would look at a painting like "The Birth of Venus" and think that it's porn.

That's the thing, porn has such a nebulous meaning that no one quite knows what it means. Can you define porn in a way that would exclude other art?
If you define porn as something that was created with the intent of being masturbated to, I think you can.

I mean, anything can be sexualized and used for self-gratification (From a mental stand point), so I guess intent is the best one can judge on.
And that's the thing, a lot of paintings of nudes that we consider great works of art now were originally made to be titillating, provocative, and erotic. Take for example many of the paintings from the Italian Renaissance. A lot of the paintings of nudes that are considered masterpieces (both at the time of the renaissance and today) were commissioned by wealthy aristocrats to decorate their bedrooms. Why their bedrooms? They needed something to get off on while they were having sex with their wives (many of whom were ugly, and who the aristocrats married out of family obligation, or for money).

It's kind of funny to think of some of the works of art that are discussed and interpreted in art classes all over the world being used as masturbation material for kings, dukes, cardinals, members of the Medici family, etc. That's not to say that the art is somehow less worth admiration just because it was once used by someone to chock the chicken, nor does it mean that the art is devoid of symbolism and not worth studying, the point is that art tends to have a purpose beyond just being art, and if the commissioner wants to use the art for something like masturbation material that doesn't automatically devalue it.
So an interesting question should be, why is porn art from 400 years ago still revered as artistic master pieces, while the porn art of today is (at least on surface level) seen as disgusting, crude, and for the most part has the potential to ruin an artists career if discovered by the wrong person?

Is it perhaps because it is more...up front with the sex aspect then the paintings of the past? I mean, those paintings for the most part were just women laying naked on satin sheets looking seductively at the viewer. The porn of today involves lots of dicks, lots of...you get the point.
Here was the style of clothing during the Renaissance:




This is the style of clothing now:




So yeah, of course a picture of a naked woman laying on some sheets isn't going to be as provocative to us now as it would have been 400 years ago.

By the same token however, there's lots of "porn" pictures on sites like deviant art or hentai foundry, or rule 34, or what have you, that aren't much more extreme than a Botticelli painting of women dancing naked in a forest, and yet they're still considered porn. Not extreme porn mind you, but still porn.
 

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I would say almost every artist draws naked people at some point. I mean, that's how you learn to draw people; you draw them naked. You might not draw their naughty bits, but still. It's just anatomy.

And really, drawing naked people in acrobatic and entwined positions is actually pretty tricky... and making it look -good- is very tricky. And pretty fun to do.

I know plenty of artists who refuse to do sexy pictures, but as a whole I'd say artists tend to be more liberal than most.
 

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I'm both very familiar with those two artists.
Seeing as how they are wildly popular on DeviantART and all.
Doesn't surprise me that the two of them are into porn.
Their SFW stuff was already suggestive.

I have an artist I like too that does porn. I don't know if I should link though.
Since she puts effort into keeping both separate.
Then again she still uses a familiar brand name(and art style)...so I guess it's okay? http://kecunlimited.tumblr.com/
Oh, wow. I've definitely seen some of her porn before (Or I think so, anyway) but I'll be honest: I haven't seen anything besides. What does she do outside of porn? I'm curious.
 

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Dragonbums said:
I know a couple of artists on my Tumblr that do that sort of stuff. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't bother me. However, I don't know if I'm just a tumblr anomaly or if this is an opinion that is generally accepted by a large amount of people.
Doesn't bother me, but I will say not all artists or their porn is equal. I evaluate such things on a case by case basis, and at the end of the day I judge it more by how artist carries themselves. If the person comes off as a creep or weirdo, I tend to look at their art the same way and think badly of them for drawing it.

If they act professional and coherent, I am more willing to look at their porn and NSFW material fairly, maybe even appreciate it for the artistic value or skill involved making it.
 

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TAGM said:
Dragonbums said:
I'm both very familiar with those two artists.
Seeing as how they are wildly popular on DeviantART and all.
Doesn't surprise me that the two of them are into porn.
Their SFW stuff was already suggestive.

I have an artist I like too that does porn. I don't know if I should link though.
Since she puts effort into keeping both separate.
Then again she still uses a familiar brand name(and art style)...so I guess it's okay? http://kecunlimited.tumblr.com/
Oh, wow. I've definitely seen some of her porn before (Or I think so, anyway) but I'll be honest: I haven't seen anything besides. What does she do outside of porn? I'm curious.
Up until recently, she was basically one of the head honchos in a very popular group called PMD-e. A DeviantART group that's basically a hub for her own internal story of the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Universe. http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/ She literally did 90% of the art for that group (which is a fucking lot if you look at the story arcs and everything.)

However like I said, she recently passed the torch on to someone else and is now working on a long cast aside project.

Of course she did state that this was all on her free time. Her real money comes from small time pokemon commissions, and the highly professional(and kept secret) clientele commissions that actually pays real money.
 

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Alan Moore wrote a pretty good porn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Girls

Also the guy that did all the art for lilo and stitch tends towards the erotic
http://www.chrissandersart.com/shop/
http://alohalilo.deviantart.com/gallery/