Remedy: Next-Gen is a "Quantum Leap"

[BloodRed Pixel]

a 'quantum leap' as used as saying in everyday language does not refer to the distance the electron travels but to the suddeness of the change.

So in this case Remedy assumes that the NextGen Consoles, will trigger a 'sudden change' or 'unforseeable consequences' (hello, Half Life ;D ) in it's economic system and/ or cultural niche.
Wether this is a good saying or not is up to debate.

 

[Braedan]

Fucking toast my arse with a 4 bar heater, but there's a load of propeller headed pedantic nerds on here. The phrase is a well used metaphor for a step change in function or performance, you don't have to show how "clever" you are by pointing out it's true scientific meaning. Jeez.

OT: I hope he's right and we're not disappointed.

So saying things incorrectly is cool brah, and not sounding dumb is nerdy?

Well! I think I'll ride my feet under to the fridge, and cook some tea to eat.

OT: I'm much more excited about the increase in CPU and RAM freeing PCs from limitations from 5 years ago. Screw graphics, I just loaded Red Alert 2 up. I just wish the computer could put up a good fight.

 

[The Wooster]

Why does no one understand that a "quantum leap" is not a significant measurement?

Quantum means "as small as physically possible"

A "quantum leap" in video game technology would make it completely unnoticeably better.

It DOES NOT mean huge, or large, or gigantic, or anything even remotely larger than things we cannot see with a microscope. It is a discrete, tiny tiny difference.

/end phyiscs rage

I was going to mention this in the article, but it's actually a completely legitimate use of the phrase. [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quantum+leap]

 

[Something Amyss]

Quantum means small. He just unintentionally insulted the next generation. It is cool that it is a big difference though, assuming that is what he meant.

He's just using an overused buzzword devoid of meaning or context.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

People get so hung up on the next generation of consoles being all about graphic fidelity when they should be looking forward to the massive increase in RAM that is going open up gaming possibilities, especially in AI.

Not to mention maps that are larger than a toilet cubicle without constant loading issues.

 

[Sis]

He might have made a mistake, but you know what ... He's probably gonna be right. It's gonna be a small step forward the next generation.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

It's gonna be a small step forward the next generation.

That or the price point on them is going to make the PS3 launch price seem a fond memory.

 

[lapan]

Well, this genration lasted a long time, so the overall power of the consoles is probably gonna be much higher. However graphical differences won't be as noticeable.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Either definition one goes with Oskari is still wrong, things will get better but not by much(doubt they will even be on par with high end PCs), but at least we can break away from 30 FPS locked games.

This Alan Wake team is a really strange one, they seem to be bonkers over consoles and yet they self funded a PC port that was miles better and packed full of content, some strange Jekyll and Hyde thing going on.

 

[Treblaine]

Quantum = infinitesimally small

Leap = jump

So Remedy is saying it's an "infinitesimally small jump"

They might mean "paradigm shift", but one thing quantum most definitely not is is significantly large step, it's a term for the smallest things something could possibly be.

 

[lapan]

Well, this genration lasted a long time, so the overall power of the consoles is probably gonna be much higher. However graphical differences won't be as noticeable.

From 5 meters away, they probably won't be.

If you have a side to side comparisson you will surely find lots of differences. With the naked eye and no comparisson it's a different story. Of course it will also depend on the games you are comparing.

I myself am quite content with the average graphics you get nowadays.

 

[Treblaine]

Why does no one understand that a "quantum leap" is not a significant measurement?

Quantum means "as small as physically possible"

A "quantum leap" in video game technology would make it completely unnoticeably better.

It DOES NOT mean huge, or large, or gigantic, or anything even remotely larger than things we cannot see with a microscope. It is a discrete, tiny tiny difference.

/end phyiscs rage

I was going to mention this in the article, but it's actually a completely legitimate use of the phrase. [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quantum+leap]

Frequent misuse it not good, because then the word "Quantum" would then simultaneously means "very large" and "very small".

Quantum physics, which has a lot more too it than this singular oft-used phrase, will be left worse off if they have to constantly explain to laymen who think "Oh, quantum physics, like quantum leap, looking at big changes" and this is a fucking problem having to OVER AND OVER AGAIN explain that things like quantum teleportation cannot be simply translated to the macro scale.

The show "Quantum Leap" made no insinuation that quantum made a "large leap" but merely that knowledge of atoms at the quantum level allowed this time travel.

 

[octafish]

People get so hung up on the next generation of consoles being all about graphic fidelity when they should be looking forward to the massive increase in RAM that is going open up gaming possibilities, especially in AI.

Not to mention maps that are larger than a toilet cubicle without constant loading issues.

Quite so. I wasn't going to mention maps because for singleplayer games the limiting factor won't be hardware. It will remain the limitation of developers who need to funnel players through corridors so the next cutscene can happen. Still, bigger maps and more players is where I like my multi-player to be. Maybe I'll get games outside of BF, Planetside, and Tribes that address this next gen.

 

[newdarkcloud]

I agree. It will be a Quantum Leap.

As in, we will be making minimal progress.

 

[Fasckira]

Wait... Death Rally was re-released?! I did not know this.

*runs off to buy a copy*

 

[-|-]

So saying things incorrectly is cool brah, and not sounding dumb is nerdy?

Well! I think I'll ride my feet under to the fridge, and cook some tea to eat.

OT: I'm much more excited about the increase in CPU and RAM freeing PCs from limitations from 5 years ago. Screw graphics, I just loaded Red Alert 2 up. I just wish the computer could put up a good fight.

It's only incorrect if you take everything literally - which is a tiny bit nerdy. Figurative language is an actual thing that I assume you've heard of.

OT: What I want from the next gen is consistent frame, and much reduced loading times. While we might get the former I expect the latter will be worse... sigh

 

[soldierk3]

Why does no one understand that a "quantum leap" is not a significant measurement?

Quantum means "as small as physically possible"

A "quantum leap" in video game technology would make it completely unnoticeably better.

It DOES NOT mean huge, or large, or gigantic, or anything even remotely larger than things we cannot see with a microscope. It is a discrete, tiny tiny difference.

/end phyiscs rage

I was going to mention this in the article, but it's actually a completely legitimate use of the phrase. [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quantum+leap]

If that is in fact the case, that means that very recently popular culture has taken the term and twisted it to suit their definition. It is not the original definition of the phrase, nor will I ever be able to see it that way due to the contradiction that it inherently creates.

Quantum leaps are discrete jumps in energy from one energy level to the next, we're talking about the smallest possible movement in energy already measured in eV's, which are incredibly small. If it has changed, I guarantee that it changed due to people misusing the term so much it became accepted. It will never stop bothering me

 

[Nalgas D. Lemur]

Every single time. Every single time there's a thread concerning a next generation of consoles there's a bunch of people who jump in with their "graphics are almost as good as they'll ever get" shtick. Well, first, this is far from the truth - there's still a shit-ton [http://i.imgur.com/g0TTc.jpg] to be improved [http://i.imgur.com/zDHZ0.jpg] without even approaching any advanced technology like tesselation, displacement mapping, subsurface scattering, or better, more dynamic lighting.

And second, I don't get this tunnel-vision like fixation on graphics. Do you honestly not get that with better hardware you can get bigger scale games to run? From the little absurd things like there not being a holster animation in Mass Effect 3 because it takes up too much RAM for the piece of shit hardware to handle it, or Bethesda cutting down on armor slots in Skyrim for much the same reason, to bigger things like games generally being obnoxiously small-scale, this set of hardware some of you people cling to is extremely limiting.

Speaking of games that are large-scale that mostly ignore graphical quality and could never be made to run on current consoles, there's always stuff like AI War [http://www.arcengames.com/w/index.php/aiwar-features]. It's not particularly pretty (and usually less so than the screenshots because it's most effective to play it zoomed out far enough that everything becomes icons), but it's a great example of what you can pull off when you have a bunch of CPU and RAM to throw around.

In a normal game, there are tens of thousands of units at a time, all of which have their AI simulated and everything. Depending on the settings you use and how long the game goes on, it's not unrealistic to end up with a couple hundred thousand total simultaneous units (but last time I checked the memory manager/garbage collector tends to choke around a million). And it keeps happily chugging along at 60fps while doing full pathfinding and weapon targeting and everything for all of them. It's the kind of game where two thousand units can be a diversion, as opposed to twice the total unit cap.

And that's just one piece of it. There are just so many crazy things you can do with more CPU and RAM even with the exact same graphics hardware. It makes me a little sad when people like that have no imagination or understanding of how anything works.