Remember Me Creative Director: Now Is The Time For New IP

[Baresark]

No big surprise there. I think there are less new IP's because the biggest games being released are sequels from huge ass publishers, those people are too afraid to try new things (for the most part).

Well, another reason is that no-one usually likes the new IPs better than the established franchises. How many of you think Catherine is a better game than Skyrim? Yeah, thats what I thought

No one on a large scale could disagree with you. But I'm sure that there are people out there that prefer it over Skyrim.... I just don't know any of them.

A new IP doesn't have to mean all new mechanics or gameplay style. A new IP could be familiar gameplay mechanics with new and interesting world, characters, and motivations. The problem with games that emulated God of War, for example, is that none were as interesting and more often than not, the mechanics were not implemented as well as they were on GOW. I'm just using that as an example of course. What did that do though? It made develeopers think that only GOW worked that way, and the gameplay style was not good for any new IP's. Look at Bethesday, first person RPG with a bunch of other interesting mechanics thrown in and you have Dishonored.

Edit: People will always choose the familiar over the non familiar. That is why white people like to live in white neighborhoods and black folks in black neighborhoods. Also why you are statistically more likely to marry someone who has a name that begins with the same letter. It's how we are written. It's not destiny or written, but people will always go for that things they are most familiar with.

 

[Baresark]

No big surprise there. I think there are less new IP's because the biggest games being released are sequels from huge ass publishers, those people are too afraid to try new things (for the most part).

Well, another reason is that no-one usually likes the new IPs better than the established franchises. How many of you think Catherine is a better game than Skyrim? Yeah, thats what I thought

No one on a large scale could disagree with you. But I'm sure that there are people out there that prefer it over Skyrim.... I just don't know any of them.

And how many of those people are the kind of braggart, pretentious, bad-hat-wearing douchefags who day in day out whine like bitches about a lack of new IP when their favourite games list consists entirely of sequels?

Sorry, I lost my temper a bit there.

Haha, it was apropos. Luckily, all my real life friends aren't like that. They don't whine for new or original IP's, they are like me and just enjoy playing games. I was simply saying that I don't know anyone who even played that game... now that I think about it. Too bad too, it seemed interesting, but the timing for me personally was bad. I actually think I was the only person among my friends who was even aware of that game, we are mostly PC gamers.

 

[Some_weirdGuy]

Well, another reason is that no-one usually likes the new IPs better than the established franchises. How many of you think Catherine is a better game than Skyrim? Yeah, thats what I thought

I think Cathrine is better than Skyrim. So you thought wrong.

 

[Some_weirdGuy]

Well, another reason is that no-one usually likes the new IPs better than the established franchises. How many of you think Catherine is a better game than Skyrim? Yeah, thats what I thought

I think Cathrine is better than Skyrim. So you thought wrong.

Are you in the majority opinion? No? Then I'm right. I never said no-one thinks that.

Never? Not even right there, in the quote directly above? XD

..reason is that no-one usually...

It's the whole reason I caught you up on it
Either way, don't go making an argument over this, it is really not worth wasting the time it would take to type it out XD.


Part of Cathrine's 'problem' was that it was console only, and aimed at a different market to a game like Skyrim, and it's subject matter also acts as a barrier to some(unlike a high-fantasy adventure which is more 'comfortable' to many audiences).

So for a real comparison we'd need to find a skyrim-like game that's also a new IP as a comparison point, in which case you can argue sequels do better cause they've got better advertising (since they're tied to an ongoing series for that extra attention and hype).

Anyway, I've gotta get back to work... I can only put off my uni assignments for so long before it will really bite me on the ass :X [http://images.wikia.com/theamazingworldofgumball/images/d/df/Feels-bad-man.jpg]

 

[Chrono212]

Oh man, does that new IP look good!

It does look very nice. Pity it appears to suffer from a severe case of Capcom's recurring foot-in-mouth syndrome, that apparently has any good writers and talented voice actors in their vicinity running for the hills.

Still I'm sure the 3 low-level code-monkeys, the tea lady and the homeless man who sleeps on the stoop will do a stand-up job picking up the narrative slack.

I have no idea what you mean

 

[Toasty Virus]

Oh man, does that new IP look good!

It does look very nice. Pity it appears to suffer from a severe case of Capcom's recurring foot-in-mouth syndrome, that apparently has any good writers and talented voice actors in their vicinity running for the hills.

Still I'm sure the 3 low-level code-monkeys, the tea lady and the homeless man who sleeps on the stoop will do a stand-up job picking up the narrative slack.

I have no idea what you mean

Yeah, I agree. The game is only being published by Capcom!

Looks really good though, I'm excited!

 

[Baldry]

Am I the only one that sees this as eerily reminiscent of Watch Dogs?
It's like the same exact... well, everything. Down to the engine, UI and publisher.

I remember it, I'm still waiting for more information to blow my tits off. Also this is being published by Capcom, watch dogs is Ubisoft isn't it?

 

[V8 Ninja]

I JUST noticed that "Dontnod" is a palindrome.

A Bit More OT: While I'm not decided on this situation myself, it is very nice to see major publishers taking risks on new IPs in what would normally be a sequel-heavy period in the game console cycle.

 

[GenGenners]

Well, another reason is that no-one usually likes the new IPs better than the established franchises. How many of you think Catherine is a better game than Skyrim? Yeah, thats what I thought

I think Cathrine is better than Skyrim. So you thought wrong.

Are you in the majority opinion? No? Then I'm right. I never said no-one thinks that.

Never? Not even right there, in the quote directly above? XD

..reason is that no-one usually...

It's the whole reason I caught you up on it

Yeah, and did you miss the word that follows it? Usually - a qualifier that here means that while is does happen, it is not common or even likely.

But anyway, as for a game like that - whats Kingdom of Amalurs metacritic score on the Xbox? 80. Whats Skyrims on the Xbox? 96. Reviewers give a 16 point edge to Skyrim despite (or, far more likely, because) its part of an established franchise.

Your Skyrim Vs. Catherine argument seems to fail to take into account the genuine high-quality of Skyrim. Skyrim, on it's own merits, is arguably one of the most well-designed games of the whole generation.
Using Skyrim as the example for your argument is a terrible idea as it automatically beats most competitors by default anyway.
Also, crossing genres tends to make comparison a *****. Rather than comparing an apple and an orange, you're comparing an apple and a steak. There's still a logical connection there, but it's a completely different type of food.

 

[Sylveria]

EA and Ubisoft hate new IPs period. They talk like this, but their entries in to the Wii-U launch line-up are just sequels and ports.. so I call bullshit.

 

[GTwander]

Am I the only one that sees this as eerily reminiscent of Watch Dogs?
It's like the same exact... well, everything. Down to the engine, UI and publisher.

I remember it, I'm still waiting for more information to blow my tits off. Also this is being published by Capcom, watch dogs is Ubisoft isn't it?

M'yes, realized that a while ago but didn't correct myself.

 

[GenGenners]

Well, another reason is that no-one usually likes the new IPs better than the established franchises. How many of you think Catherine is a better game than Skyrim? Yeah, thats what I thought

I think Cathrine is better than Skyrim. So you thought wrong.

Are you in the majority opinion? No? Then I'm right. I never said no-one thinks that.

Never? Not even right there, in the quote directly above? XD

..reason is that no-one usually...

It's the whole reason I caught you up on it

Yeah, and did you miss the word that follows it? Usually - a qualifier that here means that while is does happen, it is not common or even likely.

But anyway, as for a game like that - whats Kingdom of Amalurs metacritic score on the Xbox? 80. Whats Skyrims on the Xbox? 96. Reviewers give a 16 point edge to Skyrim despite (or, far more likely, because) its part of an established franchise.

Your Skyrim Vs. Catherine argument seems to fail to take into account the genuine high-quality of Skyrim. Skyrim, on it's own merits, is arguably one of the most well-designed games of the whole generation.
Using Skyrim as the example for your argument is a terrible idea as it automatically beats most competitors by default anyway.
Also, crossing genres tends to make comparison a *****. Rather than comparing an apple and an orange, you're comparing an apple and a steak. There's still a logical connection there, but it's a completely different type of food.

No, it actually proves my point for all those reasons. If it is able to be one of the best received games of a generation and still be a sequel, that proves calls to original IP are irrelevant as being a sequel doesn't make a game worse in any way, and being a new IP doesn't make a game any better.

It doesn't prove anything, because your point is inherently unprovable in any sort of objective fashion. You're trying to take an inherently subjective qualifier such as 'like' and, without using any sort of statistical base or test group, state that one game is better than another due to whether it is liked more. You're not basing your claims on any sort of hard facts, only the most anecdotal of evidence. Not only that, but you're comparing games from completely different genres, with completely different playstyles and mechanics, and different approaches to storytelling.

It's like claiming that How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days is a better film than Requiem For A Dream/Million Dollar Baby because it's a more 'likeable' film.

For what it's worth. I like Catherine a lot more than Skyrim. The writing is far more introspective, thematic and symbolic than anything Bethesda has offered. It tackles ideas that games very rarely go into, whereas Skyrim is standard fantasy-lore in almost every respect.

As for new IPs: encouraging creativity is always a good thing. Skyrim may be a good Elder Scrolls game, but just imagine what Bethesda could have done if they'd taken all the best elements of its design, and created a new IP instead.

We have currently got a very real problem in how risk averse publishers have become in funding new games. That is not a good sign. A healthy industry is one that encourages new ideas and creativity. If an industry is having to rely on a stream of sequels and cash cow franchises in order to make money, then that is not a good sign. New games are a sign that publishers have the money and inclination to risk on fresh ideas.

I'm just trying to think, of all the major publishers, which ones are actually still promoting creativity and fresh ideas at this stage? In the console market, I can only think of Sony.

 

[duchaked]

oh snap that game looks pretty good. a cool concept plus a comparison to Assassin's Creed is a great preview in my book

 

[legendp]

Am I the only one that sees this as eerily reminiscent of Watch Dogs?
It's like the same exact... well, everything. Down to the engine, UI and publisher.

Watch Dogs? It looks nothing like Watch Dogs from the trailer I just looked at, considering that they evidently share none of the same mechanics and clearly have different aims in what you do. The only part of that trailer that makes me think of Watch Dogs is the rain and boring aesthetics.

Assassin's Creed on the other hand... Automated acrobats with stealth elements and well... Assassinations. There's also the flashy white cut scenes and random text boxes.

Boring aesthetics, the aesthetic in remember me looks great (wacth dogs aesthetic does look boring)
it reminds me of assassins creed, deus ex and the new syndicate game. Personally I think it looks great, I could be wrong but it looks like an interesting new IP

also, If you set up a well know good IP established this gen than that means people will know your game and be more willing to buy it next gen (at least I would think, people haven't stopped buying halo despite the fact that it has been around since 2001)