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Darth_Payn

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I interrupt this harping on America's health care system and the trumpeting of those of wherever you guys are from to make the following on-topic joke about WebMD (which the bloody strip is about):
WebMD is like that one program on Lisa Simpson's computer that told Homer and Bart "You've got... Leprosy!" When Homer begged it for help, the doctor on the screen said "Goodbye!", ran through a door, slammed it, and shut down the computer.
 

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TheMemoman said:
Seriously America, you're getting bamboozled with your healthcare. And your healthcare debate, from an outsider's perspective, is monumentally absurd.
But, but, but...freedom! Socialism! My shares in major healthcare conglomerates! You know, bullshit like that.

OT: Is it just me, or is Critical Miss starting to look increasingly anime-ish?
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And really, WebMD is terrifying. In all honesty, I question whether it should even be legal. First, it exploits cognitive biases that exists in untrained people, that is, they gravitate towards scarier illnesses (cancer and congestive heart failure instead of an ingrown hair or a chest ache), and this puts them in the position of being able to make potentially serious, life-altering decisions on incomplete and misunderstood information. Second, there is no quality control, I've seen plenty of promotion of homeopathy and "alternative" bullshit on WebMD.

Basically, scare someone into thinking that all of their problems are due to toxoplasmosis (which is not actually known for sure to actually do anything in humans) and tell them they can cure it with a detox diet. That is an unbelievably shady business practice, IMO.
 

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Mangue Surfer said:
I live in a country with public healthcare. Don't work, everything is viral infection and you should go home and drink water.
To be fair, when you are infectious you obviously shouldn't work and spread it along your colleagues, it's probably a viral infection because most mild bacterial infections are rare because of antibiotics and better hygiene standards while serious bacterial infections would probably land you in the hospital before you could get anywhere near your doc and staying home and drinking lots of water is pretty much the only thing you can do when you've got an infectious disease (and literally the only thing you can do when you've got the flu besides takings some experimental antivirals that may or may not even work on the strain). All things considered, simple infections are one of the cases where it doesn't really matter whether you have public healthcare or not, the treatment won't magically change.
 

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TheMemoman said:
Seriously America, you're getting bamboozled with your healthcare. And your healthcare debate, from an outsider's perspective, is monumentally absurd.
Totally agree with you, but am really tired of hearing Americans try to debate the worth of socialized healthcare. I am certain at this point that most of them just simply do not get it or do not want to get it.
 

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Reminds me of a parody I saw. "Breaking Bad, Canadian edition"

"You have cancer. Treatments start next week"

THE END!

Seriously, the creators even said there was no way the show could happen in a first world country with socialized medicine.
 

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erttheking said:
Reminds me of a parody I saw. "Breaking Bad, Canadian edition"

"You have cancer. Treatments start next week"

THE END!

Seriously, the creators even said there was no way the show could happen in a first world country with socialized medicine.
Wait...that doesn't really make all that much sense.

I mean, I suppose one could make an argument for it but ultimately, it wasn't the money that got Walter into meth. He had other options but he chose to take the prideful route because, as he stated at the end, it was for him. Pride before the fall and all that jazz

Plus, maybe this is just the "Obamacare is gonna turn us all into communist hippies!" bull-crap but isn't one of the major drawbacks of socialized medicine is that it's not immediate? As in, it can take weeks to get into the doctor's office and it takes time before they can start treatments since everyone is able to go when they want/need to?

Note: If you don't want to get into the socialized medicine thing, that's fine. I'm not looking for a debate, I'm just curious but you might get yourself pulled into a debate if someone disagrees with you :)
 

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TheMemoman said:
Seriously America, you're getting bamboozled with your healthcare. And your healthcare debate, from an outsider's perspective, is monumentally absurd.
Look at our government, do you really think they should be in charge of anything? I wouldn't want them in charge of my healthcare or anything else in my life.

OT: yeah that sounds like our healthcare system.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
erttheking said:
Reminds me of a parody I saw. "Breaking Bad, Canadian edition"

"You have cancer. Treatments start next week"

THE END!

Seriously, the creators even said there was no way the show could happen in a first world country with socialized medicine.
Wait...that doesn't really make all that much sense.

I mean, I suppose one could make an argument for it but ultimately, it wasn't the money that got Walter into meth. He had other options but he chose to take the prideful route because, as he stated at the end, it was for him. Pride before the fall and all that jazz

Plus, maybe this is just the "Obamacare is gonna turn us all into communist hippies!" bull-crap but isn't one of the major drawbacks of socialized medicine is that it's not immediate? As in, it can take weeks to get into the doctor's office and it takes time before they can start treatments since everyone is able to go when they want/need to?

Note: If you don't want to get into the socialized medicine thing, that's fine. I'm not looking for a debate, I'm just curious but you might get yourself pulled into a debate if someone disagrees with you :)
Well the whole cancer thing was a catalyst that got him going, there's no getting around that. Plus it was a convenient excuse that allowed him to delude himself that he was doing the right thing for awhile.

Also it was kind of a tongue in cheek joke I think.
 

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I know exactly how this feels. I'm a hypochondriac and I go through years where it's really bad, and it is right now. I pretty much HAD to stop looking things up online because my anxiety was getting so bad that it was giving me symptoms even though I was perfectly fine. Going online and looking up things is really just not a great idea when it comes to your health. It really only causes anxious people to become even more anxious.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
erttheking said:
Reminds me of a parody I saw. "Breaking Bad, Canadian edition"

"You have cancer. Treatments start next week"

THE END!

Seriously, the creators even said there was no way the show could happen in a first world country with socialized medicine.
Wait...that doesn't really make all that much sense.

I mean, I suppose one could make an argument for it but ultimately, it wasn't the money that got Walter into meth. He had other options but he chose to take the prideful route because, as he stated at the end, it was for him. Pride before the fall and all that jazz

Plus, maybe this is just the "Obamacare is gonna turn us all into communist hippies!" bull-crap but isn't one of the major drawbacks of socialized medicine is that it's not immediate? As in, it can take weeks to get into the doctor's office and it takes time before they can start treatments since everyone is able to go when they want/need to?



Note: If you don't want to get into the socialized medicine thing, that's fine. I'm not looking for a debate, I'm just curious but you might get yourself pulled into a debate if someone disagrees with you :)
But technically, he still need plenty of money to pay for the treatment, hence the meth selling. He could still ask his ex to help to pay for him (Because Skylar is the one asking their help in the first place), but you know Walter will probably gonna loathe that kind of action, with their relationship and all.
 

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Maybe it's different than in the rest of Canada, but I live in Quebec and had to get a membership into a private clinic just to be able to see a doctor. I tried seeing a doctor for the past 2 months and the earliest appointment I could get was in 5 months. Private clinic: $110 and I'll have a full medical done + tests on the 8th.
 

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Being British and having the benefit of the NHS means I can't relate to this strip on any level.

Not that the NHS is perfect or anything but at least I don't have to pay for something like this to be checked out. Paying for healthcare just seems like such a dangerous barrier that must potentially cause a lot of unnecessary suffering.
 

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As someone who lives in a country with socialised Healthcare (Germany):

There is no waiting time here if i want to see my doc. But there is a long waiting time for specialists, because they are not enough so everybody has to wait a few months. Unless it´s an emergency, in which case they have to see you at once.

We have to pay something for our medicine (5 to 10?), which is "new" and people don´t like it.
 

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Yan007 said:
Maybe it's different than in the rest of Canada, but I live in Quebec and had to get a membership into a private clinic just to be able to see a doctor. I tried seeing a doctor for the past 2 months and the earliest appointment I could get was in 5 months. Private clinic: $110 and I'll have a full medical done + tests on the 8th.
I think that's mostly just Quebec. Unless you're talking about a specialist. I've never had a problem seeing a doctor within 20 min of going except when I had to see a Neurologist. Appointments were a year in advance.
 

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Proverbial Jon said:
Being British and having the benefit of the NHS means I can't relate to this strip on any level.

Not that the NHS is perfect or anything but at least I don't have to pay for something like this to be checked out. Paying for healthcare just seems like such a dangerous barrier that must potentially cause a lot of unnecessary suffering.

Yes, you can! You just need to replace "But it costs money." with "But i don't want to bother the doctor".

Rimfire said:
We have to pay something for our medicine (5 to 10?), which is "new" and people don´t like it.
Don't forget the Praxis Fine of 10? a quartal, that was instated from 2004 till 2012. That was enough to keep a lot of people from going.