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Smooth gameplay is better than good design and this is the main problem in triple A titles today, they focus on making the experience real with things like NPC's. Unfortunately, NPC's always fall short of reality and every time they bug out it's jarring to one's perception of reality in the game.
Daggerfall did an even better job of making you feel like just one adventurer of many. There's an infinite number of random quests (although a highly limited number of templates for them), and the game does a really good job of making you feel like you're not the only adventurer out there taking on these quests. That's something I find lacking from most modern RPGs: that D&D sense that adventuring is a profession, not something unique to the player characters.Mick Golden Blood said:
I actually came in here to talk about Daggerfall's random quests; I'm having a hard time thinking of a game that does a better job of making you feel like the world moves on, with or without you. Seriously, play Daggerfall. It's freeware and there's an installer that makes it work like any other Windows game, which you can find here.
LOLWUT? Someone doesn't understand competition. By this logic gaming is a failure because the Apple Pippin was a flop.Karutomaru said:
Again by this logic pretty much every game developer ever is bad. Name 3 good Nintendo games on Virtual Boy. Go on.Karutomaru said:
I can't name 3 excellent Wii games made by any company, doesn't mean every company who ever made a Wii game has never made other games which are great.Karutomaru said:
Which is an important distinction by the way. Ubisoft Montreal made some of the best games of the last two console generations. None of the Wii games (to my knowledge anyway) were handled by that team. So while Ubisoft the publisher may do some stupid things and release some shitty games as an attempt for some quick cash, they are hardly alone, and that really had nothing to do with Ubisoft Montreal who was happy making great games the whole while.
I see, so your statements aren't based on things like facts or evidence, but rather some sort of irrational hatred of Ubisoft. Good to know.
Nothing to see here folks.
Ha, I have to give you credit, that is the funniest statement I've seen in quite a while. I'd love to know what what strength the rose tinting on those fanboy glasses has to be to make anyone think that Nintendo and Capcom only release quality titles, or give two shits about their customers.Karutomaru said:
Can we ignore Karutomaru within this thread? I Hate Ubisoft isn't the topic of this thread it's world-building vs game design, a topic I find to be a lot more fun then another hater thread.
I lean in the favor of game design over a believable world, a believable world doesn't work well when I'm going around killing a dozen trained warriors at once, unless the game's character is meant to be some super being which is sometimes the case but not with Assassins Creed and many other games.
I lean in the favor of game design over a believable world, a believable world doesn't work well when I'm going around killing a dozen trained warriors at once, unless the game's character is meant to be some super being which is sometimes the case but not with Assassins Creed and many other games.
I never had a virtual boy, so I can't personally vouch for any of them, but Wario Land and Mario Tennis both got their start on that system, so there's two good games right there. I'm almost positive that at least one of the other Nintendo made games would have been good. But then again, this is Nintendo we're talking about; if a system has three first party Nintendo games, it will have at least three great games.Hazy992 said:
As for Ubisoft: they have a history of making games that are at the very least good. Their business practices may be terrible, but it's not fair to tar their games with the same brush. That would be like hating Star Wars because it's distributed by Fox.
Just ignore him, in the end he will say something offensive and get banned, that's how these things always ends.Hazy992 said:
OT: I like it when the game is shaped after the player, it makes the world awhole lot more fun. There are several ways of immersion, and I can get lost wihtin a game by seeing myself as the person controlling an avatar, not being the character itself.
Skyrim vs. AmalurKarutomaru said:
CoD. vs Battlefield 3 vs. Halo
Any MMO vs. WoW
It's marketing.
Well by that logic, you aren't talking about the Wii at all. OH HO, SICK BURN. Really, the Wii is just an awful shovelware platform that Ubisoft is only a small part of. Nintendo's awfulsauce 3rd party support and willingness to sign off on all these awfulsauce games is just an indication of their dedication to moneygrubbing without concern for quality. The Wii has 1220 games. Name 10 Wii exclusives that are objectively good with an 85% or better on metacritic. GLHF.
Pretty much everything he says about games will do that to you. I think another corker was "The Wii has the best games of this generation".SpaceBat said:
OT: I did always find the poster thing weird - surely the bigger challenge would be in making people tell guards if they saw you ripping them down at street level? But other then that, I find there's a degree of leniency to which I automatically default. I do think that Assassin's Creed's cities are at their best when you just walk through the streets for a little while.
If I had a bigger problem with AC in that regard I think it'd be the incredibly game-y HUD which fills the whole screen - you can switch it off but a lot of it is kinda necessary.
Never did it for me - I mean, it brings you out of it, but it's supposed to. Depends on how much any given person likes that side of the fiction; I know some hate it vehemently, I've always quite liked it.DeadpanLunatic said:
Well, I did. AssCreedRev just seemed to go off the rails.
I am sorry... But those games are in direct competition with each other. ESPECIALLY... Call of Duty vs Battlefield, you can't get a better example. The two publishers are literally enemies against each other and it's almost the origin of it.Karutomaru said:
MW3 and BF3, both Modern Shooters and both released near each other on PURPOSE. BF3 could have released earlier or before, but it released a week or so before MW3 because it knew it could grab sales from MW3 and make people stop playing CoD.
Competition is business 101, I don't think you understand that, competition is essential.
Oh dearKarutomaru said:
You've gotta just be trolling now, this makes no sense.
Ubisoft makes fun games, they have bad ones too but so do all companies. But you saying capcom is better then ubisoft is just... no words.