Report: 3DS' Cart Bigger Than a DVD?

GeorgW

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thanatos465 said:
I was reading awhile back about SanDisk was working on a 1TB SD card, I wished the next consoles would use SD cards.
They already do. All of Nintendo's consoles have options for an SD HDD.
 

mikecoulter

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Wow, that's pretty massive for a cart. But when looked at in comparison to a Micro SD... I have a 16gb one in my phone. So surely, carts could hold a lot more?..
 

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delanofilms said:
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Final Fantasy 7 3DS remake, anyone?
I seriously hope so. I want to play that game but the controls are so blocky I can't get through it.
This has been spoken on for long length. Well... Mostly just a shinier version. It's not just an upgrade for the graphics. They would have to remake a whole game. I think the costs would outweigh whatever sales they could make of it.

who knows. Might work, but they probably won't bother
 

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GeorgW said:
thanatos465 said:
I was reading awhile back about SanDisk was working on a 1TB SD card, I wished the next consoles would use SD cards.
They already do. All of Nintendo's consoles have options for an SD HDD.
Yes they do, the DSi sacrifices it's GBA slot to have a SD reader. And the wii came with one built in. But, I've never been able to do much more on the wii then look at pictures on it... I'm not sure about the DSi, as I haven't got one.

OT: looks awesome, lets hope the 3DS is powerful enough to be able to use all 8gb.
 

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Yeah... but then with better graphics comes less battery life, unless they have an amazing battery I don't see it lasting that long.
 

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I wonder if this is essentially the DS-2?

If not, I don't see how much longer Nintendo can extend the life span.

(Oh, and the title caused me to visualize massive cartridges the size of disks; Scary).
 

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I had heard they were going to be 2GB (more than that of a UMD or gamecube disc 1.8 and 1.6 GB respectively) but if this is true I can expect some big games from this. Hopefully Megaman Legends 3 will blow the other two out of the water.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
delanofilms said:
omicron1 said:
Final Fantasy 7 3DS remake, anyone?
I seriously hope so. I want to play that game but the controls are so blocky I can't get through it.
This has been spoken on for long length. Well... Mostly just a shinier version. It's not just an upgrade for the graphics. They would have to remake a whole game. I think the costs would outweigh whatever sales they could make of it.

who knows. Might work, but they probably won't bother
How would the cost outweigh the cost? One of the best selling handhelds with the biggest selling game. I mean if FF 13 made a profit, then a 7 remake would do just fine.
 

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Thomas Guy said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
delanofilms said:
omicron1 said:
Final Fantasy 7 3DS remake, anyone?
I seriously hope so. I want to play that game but the controls are so blocky I can't get through it.
This has been spoken on for long length. Well... Mostly just a shinier version. It's not just an upgrade for the graphics. They would have to remake a whole game. I think the costs would outweigh whatever sales they could make of it.

who knows. Might work, but they probably won't bother
How would the cost outweigh the cost? One of the best selling handhelds with the biggest selling game. I mean if FF 13 made a profit, then a 7 remake would do just fine.
Because you can't JUST revamp ther graphics, they need to redo the whole damned game. It's explained by shamous Young I think. Basically they have to remake the whole thing, they need to toss ALOT of money at this to bring it all up nice and shiney. Then you have the people who won't JUST buy a remake, and the people who won't buy a hand held, and if they fuck up with one thing on the FF7 remake, fans will never forgive them. THey're taking the safe option
 

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512 MB is really only "paltry" if you're making a game that's highly dependent on pre-rendered cut scenes. Remember that we're talking about a resolution of 256 x 192 for the DS screens.

Hopefully companies will make good use of 2 GB initially available, which certainly ought to be do-able. It may also be that Nintendo is hoping to make downloadable content competitive by not having cartridge games be able to completely overshadow their online brethren through sheer content volume.
 

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I'm also glad they're keeping the cart format because minimal loading times are always awesome.
Especially for a system that many people will play in short spurts.
Not me, SSFIV 3D is going to be played a lot.

But yeah, eye strain and all that.
 

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Bigsmith said:
GeorgW said:
thanatos465 said:
I was reading awhile back about SanDisk was working on a 1TB SD card, I wished the next consoles would use SD cards.
They already do. All of Nintendo's consoles have options for an SD HDD.
Yes they do, the DSi sacrifices it's GBA slot to have a SD reader. And the wii came with one built in. But, I've never been able to do much more on the wii then look at pictures on it... I'm not sure about the DSi, as I haven't got one.

OT: looks awesome, lets hope the 3DS is powerful enough to be able to use all 8gb.
on the dsi you have the option to listen to music but only in a certain format
 

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They probably want to keep extra space to add DRM anti-piracy code. As time goes by they will lessen the disk space needed for it as new and more efficient code is introduced.
 

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John Funk said:
Report: 3DS' Cart Bigger Than a DVD?



Could 3DS games be carrying as much data as titles developed for the Xbox 360?

With the arrival of the PlayStation in the mid-90s, videogames irrevocably started to make the transition from a cartridge-based medium to a disc-based one. Discs were cheaper to produce and held much more data, after all - it only made sense. Nintendo clung to its cartridges throughout the N64 years, but finally transitioned to discs with its GameCube - however, its handheld platforms continued to use cartridges even as competitors like Sony's PSP introduced disc-based formats of their own.

As with the Game Boy and DS, Nintendo's upcoming 3DS will use cartridges. However, thanks to technology continuing its onward progress, this may not be the handicap it once was. Taiwanese website Gamrade [http://www.gamrade.com/article-425-1.html] is reporting that 3DS carts will hold 8GB of data - comparable to the DVD-9 discs used for Xbox 360 games. In comparison, current DS carts hold a paltry 512MB of data.

However, according to Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/5714846/nintendo-3ds-cartridges-are-so-beefy-they-might-surprise-you], Gamrade also claims that Nintendo has mandated a 2GB size limit for 3DS games for the moment. Why would it do that? Your guess is as good as mine; maybe the other 6GB is used to hold the techno-voodoo that makes the whole glasses-less 3D work.

"We've not officially announced anything on this so it's rumour and speculation - so we won't comment on it right now," Nintendo UK told Eurogamer [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-12-20-is-a-3ds-cart-bigger-than-a-dvd]).

The 3DS is out early next year. No price tag has been announced for North America or Europe.

(Via Eurogamer [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-12-20-is-a-3ds-cart-bigger-than-a-dvd])

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It's worth noting the size limit on original DS cards was due to cost and 8 GB of any flash memory is still prohibitively expensive for mass-produced games when compared to disc medium. Unless they're hiking the prices, 8 GB is probably not the size of the card.

Since 2 GB is, if I remember right, the limit on non SDHC cards, they could have the capacity to use 8 GB cards in the future, while locking the feature for now. Why? Well, why did they cap the Wii's storage capacity and later unlock it? the first round of DS carts were also only 128 or 256, so upgrades are clearly something Nintendo's done before.

In short: Could they? Yes. are they likely to? No.
 

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An 8GB harddrive or whatever? Yeah, sure, that way you can put your games directly on the handheld like the PSP.

8GB cartridges? I doubt it, and as the old adage goes, quality > quantity.

I doubt I will get the 3DS, I've never been a handheld gamer as my dusty DS can tell you, or a Nintendo gamer in general. We'll see how this whole 3DS thing turns out...