Report: Bethesda Working On Elder Scrolls MMO
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Guild Wars 2 is a one-time purchase MMO coming to consoles at the end of the year.Sleekit said:
Dragons didn't exist in the Second Era, they were in the Merethic Era which was before the First Era. The First Era lasted nearly 3000 years and the Second Era lasted nearly 1000 years. The Third Era hosted TES I, II, III and IV; all about 30 years between each other ending in the year 433 thanks to the Oblivion Crisis. 200 years after that lands us in Skyrim for TESV.
So it won't be dragons as dragons hadn't been around in thousands of years, and we're still a thousand years off from TESV.
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My guess is that:
The Dragon Faction are the Akaviri Tsaesci, dragon-people from Akavir.
The Lion Faction are the Empire. The emblem for the Empire changes through bloodlines, so in the 2nd Era it wouldn't have been a dragon with a diamond above it (Skyrim logo).
The Bird of Prey Faction are overthrowing elves/rebels of some kind, I haven't the slightest and I've read a lot of lore...
Good News For this: If it is true, it could be somewhat of a good fit, at least with one half of the MMO model.
Bad News: Nobody has ever managed to do an MMO right. An MMO is supposed to be an exercise in allowing comunities to flourish without it becoming a forced option. And it's that "forced option" part MMOs have trouble with.
I left WoW with one thought in mind: getting into a raid is too hard for not much of a payoff. You're luckey if you get a single scrap of equipment from any single raid. It's not worth it.
I often submit that that the best MMO would essentially be somewhere where you can gather matirials, hunt monsters, mine for minerals, build structures, fight enemies and craft equipment for yourself; all without a structured world with things like story and raids tying you to a tedious schedual that amounts to gambling.
Strangely enough, rather than sounding like an MMO version of Minecraft, I'm begining to think that what I want sounds like a RTS, except from the perspective of the units rather than the perspective of the one pulling the strings.
...All that said. I think an elder scrolls MMO might have the slightest complication of not being able to mod it however you want, or otherwise make it exceedingly difficult. And in the end, is that not what the elder scrolls means most to people? A game that although great on its own, gives you the assuerance that you can change it at any time. That is one of the great appeals of The Elder Scrolls.
Bad News: Nobody has ever managed to do an MMO right. An MMO is supposed to be an exercise in allowing comunities to flourish without it becoming a forced option. And it's that "forced option" part MMOs have trouble with.
I left WoW with one thought in mind: getting into a raid is too hard for not much of a payoff. You're luckey if you get a single scrap of equipment from any single raid. It's not worth it.
I often submit that that the best MMO would essentially be somewhere where you can gather matirials, hunt monsters, mine for minerals, build structures, fight enemies and craft equipment for yourself; all without a structured world with things like story and raids tying you to a tedious schedual that amounts to gambling.
Strangely enough, rather than sounding like an MMO version of Minecraft, I'm begining to think that what I want sounds like a RTS, except from the perspective of the units rather than the perspective of the one pulling the strings.
...All that said. I think an elder scrolls MMO might have the slightest complication of not being able to mod it however you want, or otherwise make it exceedingly difficult. And in the end, is that not what the elder scrolls means most to people? A game that although great on its own, gives you the assuerance that you can change it at any time. That is one of the great appeals of The Elder Scrolls.
Honestly, I just wanted co-op so my husband and I can play together without a bunch of people named something like, "XxLizardMater69xX" doing it as well. I'm 'meh' for the MMO idea. Then again, it may depend on how it plays. I'd probably still try it out.
A lie. Tom Sawyer the CEO of Bethesda said that no matter what they would never create an MMO. These people are there to get peoples attention of themselves nothing more.
I'm not even going to mention the beast-men introduction that was basicly unheard of other than shapeshifter's(which is a very insignificant number) in Tolkien lore. Or their own unique take on the origins of vastly different cultures within Mer and Men, which is contrasts the whole "elves are enlightened and at the end of their existance" and "men are teh last hopez!". Im not going to mention probably the most significant piece of lore the Elder Scrolls themselves or perhaps even just as important, the Daedra.FiatCelebrity said:
But yeah, other than basicly anything that goes into detail beyond "There are men and elves..." i guess it is unoriginal.
Edit: just to clarify, i do agree with you that an ES:MMO is a bad idea (unless Akiviri are involved) but don't call ES lore unoriginal.
George Thorogood FTW! Awesome, you have my respect.Azuaron said:
Also I really hope this rumour is not true, there are enough bloody mumorpugers already! I can't be the only thinking that a certain bioware game may have been a little better if they were not focused so much on a certain mmo... Nasty thought and I'm sorry but there are not enough high quality single player rpgs these days, so lets hope Bethesda does not jump on the 'we can beat WOW' bandwagon.
An Elder Scrolls MMO by Bethesda, well alright just as long as it has the same amount of bugs & glitches as Skyrim oh please count me in.
The source states that it will take place 1000 years before Skyrim, so we won't be seeing either the Aldmeri (I think) or Dragons.Sleekit said:
Except the Imperial Dragon symbol came from when a Tsaesci was in charge of the Empire for the first half of the Second Era. Also during that period there was a major war between the Elsweyr Confederacy (lead by the Mane) and the Aldmeri Dominion (Summerset Isle and Valenwood). This makes me think it might be like this:Bvenged said:
Dragon: Empire
Lion: Elsweyr
Eagle: Aldmeri Dominion.
If we do see Elsweyr play a major role, I hope we get to see some of the Khajiit varieties described here [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mixed_Unit_Tactics], particularly the horse-sized ones.
I dunno if anyone else mentioned this (I haven't had my coffee yet and am too lazy to read all replies), but it's not necessarily Bethesda who's working on the game.
Zenimax, Bethesda's mother-company also has a branch called Zenimax online. Let's see what it says on their site:
ZeniMax Online is a part of the ZeniMax Media group of companies, which includes Bethesda Softworks, makers of the best-selling, award-winning Elder Scrolls series and Fallout 3.
Now, here's the interesting part, taken from their FAQ:
Who are you guys?
We're the best kept secret in the gaming industry? But, seriously, we're the online game development studio of ZeniMax Media, who also owns Bethesda Softworks. So think of us as the multiplayer-focused Bethesda Softworks.
Our President was one of the founders of Mythic Entertainment and was the producer of Dark Age of Camelot and lots of other titles there.
...
What are you working on now?
We really can't say. We're just not ready to say anything specifically about the title that we are developing except to say that it is a massive AAA quality MMOG title that we think will challenge the current market leaders.
Source: http://www.zenimaxonline.com/faq.html
Btw: this is not new. These statements have been there for at least a year, I think.
Zenimax, Bethesda's mother-company also has a branch called Zenimax online. Let's see what it says on their site:
ZeniMax Online is a part of the ZeniMax Media group of companies, which includes Bethesda Softworks, makers of the best-selling, award-winning Elder Scrolls series and Fallout 3.
Now, here's the interesting part, taken from their FAQ:
Who are you guys?
We're the best kept secret in the gaming industry? But, seriously, we're the online game development studio of ZeniMax Media, who also owns Bethesda Softworks. So think of us as the multiplayer-focused Bethesda Softworks.
Our President was one of the founders of Mythic Entertainment and was the producer of Dark Age of Camelot and lots of other titles there.
...
What are you working on now?
We really can't say. We're just not ready to say anything specifically about the title that we are developing except to say that it is a massive AAA quality MMOG title that we think will challenge the current market leaders.
Source: http://www.zenimaxonline.com/faq.html
Btw: this is not new. These statements have been there for at least a year, I think.
I hope they use combat that's similar to DDO, it'd probably fit better. The only thing I see being a problem is the loot, the games are good, but I'm rather fond of being able to find a lot of fun loot, even if it's not the best.
Soon.
All MMOs are dead to me the day this releases....
I have high hopes...
do not mess it up Bethesda...
All MMOs are dead to me the day this releases....
I have high hopes...
do not mess it up Bethesda...
This, this, this.Stormz said:
The whole point of the Elder scrolls games seems to be giving you a massive, open world to explore and make your own. On paper, it seems like that would be a perfect seed for an MMO, but (at least in my limited experience) an MMO really doesn't allow you to create your own story, rather it guides you through the very rigid story, with focus on making yourself whoever you want to be.
If I had to put down money, I would be that this report is nonsense. I think, especially from how I've heard Todd Howard talk about the elder scrolls, that Bethesda is too smart to try to attack such a massive project. Think of the DLC/expansions/updates that are still to come with Skyrim! Why would the studio start/announce such a massive project with so much potential left in Skyrim? Not to mention anything that they'd want to do with Fallout.