Report: Steam Controller Will be in Your Hands By November

Living_Brain

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ZippyDSMlee said:
Even with all the revisions the first impression of the steam controller were not all that great. Its flawed, then again all controllers are flawed to a degree but the steam controller is a bit too flawed.
He tested the first revision, and many improvements have been made since. The problem is that you haven't tried it yourself, have you?
OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH
Gotta try to believe it.
 

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PoolCleaningRobot said:
And this too. 3rd party software adds extra steps which I hope won't be a problem with the Steam controller's config
Well, one would assume you wouldn't need such 3rd party software with the Steam controller. The entire premise behind the controller, besides new (hopefully better) input methods, is that the entire thing is "mod" friendly. Valve's not only making the thing as universally compatible as possible but also releasing the things entire API package to the public when it launches. Combined with the planned community features associated with the controller, this should make the Steam controller extremely customizable. [footnote]This is honestly the thing that has me most excited for the controller. I'm curious to see where it goes in the hands of the modding community.[/footnote]
 

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Besides there's a weird issue I'm not sure it can overcome which is emulating both a gamepad and a keyboard and mouse. With motionjoy, you have to choose which means having complete control over your system and binding wasd to a stick which sucks, or using the full gamepad but I can't close out of games and select something else without getting off my ass and moving back to my desk
I've set up XPadder in such a way that my controller acts as a default 360 pad but switches to a desktop mode when I hold down the select button. I can then control the mouse with the right stick and access task manger, alt tab, etc... with the buttons. Works pretty well for the most part (only game I've come across so far that requires you to hold select is Crysis 2). No Linux support for XPadder either though. I use my phone with Mouse Server in that case.
 

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SecondPrize said:
This may be a silly question, but why the fuck don't I see a wire in that photo?
Steam controller are suppose to be wireless with removable USB cable once they release. Prototype are currently wired only fonction simply because the production is still only prototype, but it is still a removable cable.
 

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iniudan said:
SecondPrize said:
This may be a silly question, but why the fuck don't I see a wire in that photo?
Steam controller are suppose to be wireless with removable USB cable once they release. Prototype are currently wired only fonction simply because the production is still only prototype, but it is still a removable cable.
Thanks, so long as there's an option to plug in a USB cable i'll be okay.
 

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Juan Regular said:
I've set up XPadder in such a way that my controller acts as a default 360 pad but switches to a desktop mode when I hold down the select button. I can then control the mouse with the right stick and access task manger, alt tab, etc... with the buttons. Works pretty well for the most part (only game I've come across so far that requires you to hold select is Crysis 2). No Linux support for XPadder either though. I use my phone with Mouse Server in that case.
Thanks, that's a good idea. I've tried using Xpadder before and it was complicated and I don't think it had bluetooth support for duel shock, so I said fuck it. I connect my laptop to my TV via hdmi so I'd like to be able to use a gamepad and carrying something extra like a wireless mouse is annoying. But that was years ago, I'll have to try XPadder again especially now that I know you switch control schemes from the controller. I'll have to try phone server too, I use Unified Remote but the Linux version is only in beta I believe
 

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PoolCleaningRobot said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
PoolCleaningRobot said:
My body is ready for the Steam controller. Even if the SteamOS fails, I care more about the controller. I can finally have a way to play pc games with a gamepad without giving up control my desktop. And since it'll have downloadable key mappings, I can do it without spending 45 minutes mapping keys for every game
As long as those games are not 2d platformers you should be kinda okay.

Also this dose it all with current PC compatible controllers.

http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/


Sure its 20 bucks but you can even set up hold down this button and it changes what the other buttons do.
That's pretty sweet but there's two problems: its not Linux compatible and its paid. Its not that I'm cheap or have a problem with paid software, I just don't like the idea of managing protected programs on my computer more than I already do. Plus motionjoy can do most of that

Besides there's a weird issue I'm not sure it can overcome which is emulating both a gamepad and a keyboard and mouse. With motionjoy, you have to choose which means having complete control over your system and binding wasd to a stick which sucks, or using the full gamepad but I can't close out of games and select something else without getting off my ass and moving back to my desk

iniudan said:
Actually according to Tommy Refenes, the programmer of Team Meat, steam controller are fine for Super Meat Boy, although he still prefer a 360 controller, but he say it might be mostly out of habit. At least that was his opinion back when he first tested them at Valve's HQ.
Also this^. Binding a stick to wasd is kind of sucky but I've played emulated 2d platformers on my phone and I think touch works pretty well as an emulated D-pad, so I like the Steam controllers touchpads in principle. Plus I read Refenes opinion and it sounds promising

Vigormortis said:
I've used that service before. It's inherently flawed insofar as the platform adds a layer of latency to all controller inputs. Especially if there is any amalgam of native controller drivers.

So...it's really not an ideal "fix" for someone's controller-to-PC woes. Not all of them, anyway
And this too. 3rd party software adds extra steps which I hope won't be a problem with the Steam controller's config
Linux? Why? Not every game runs on linux making lunix pointless unless you plan on playing only a few of the smaller titles off of steam.

It emulates KB and mouse well enough if you have a game that resource hungry it will glitch but I find putting its priority up fixes that most of the time.

My main complaint with it is it has a learning curve to use well but it's one of the better game pad config ultitlies out there, yes it also sucks its a paid app but its compliment of features makes up for it.

I'd say if you have a normal PC pad and like it just want more features out of it the program will work well enough for you if you invest the time to learn its crazy GUI. The steam pad is missing to many buttons for me to have the same opinion. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd full rebuilt revision will but at this point and time there is nothing telling me this will work for most games well.
 

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ZippyDSMlee said:
Linux? Why? Not every game runs on linux making lunix pointless unless you plan on playing only a few of the smaller titles off of steam.
Maybe I just happen to prefer it and its functionality to Windows

sent from my netbook running Manjaro XFCE

I don't use it heavily for gaming so I'm mostly thinking toward the future. If I'm spending about $1000 on a gaming rig its going to run an OS I like and not whatever disaster Microsoft cooks up in the future. Besides, I've bought dozens of older games off GoG from circa 2000 and I have yet to find one that won't run through Play on Linux on my 2gb ram, Celeron duel core netbook at full settings with no lag. A majority of low end recent games run too and Linux ports are becoming more common among indi devs. I may not be playing the latest and greatest, but virtually any older pc game is open to me. So while I will have to duel boot in the future with a real gaming pc (like I do now), I plan to do most of my gaming and casual use on Linux

It emulates KB and mouse well enough if you have a game that resource hungry it will glitch but I find putting its priority up fixes that most of the time.

My main complaint with it is it has a learning curve to use well but it's one of the better game pad config ultitlies out there, yes it also sucks its a paid app but its compliment of features makes up for it. I'd say if you have a normal PC pad and like it just want more features out of it the program will work well enough for you if you invest the time to learn its crazy GUI.
I do think its true what they say, you get what you pay for. So its not that I think the app is bad

The steam pad is missing to many buttons for me to have the same opinion. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd full rebuilt revision will but at this point and time there is nothing telling me this will work for most games well.
The Steam pad has a d-pad, 4 face buttons, left and right trigger, 2 touch pads with clicks, pause, select, Steam button, and 2 back squeeze things. Looks like the same amount to me. You must be thinking of the old touch screen version with only 4 face buttons. I have nothing to say convince you though. It very well might suck complete ass. But my experience playing games in the same touch manner on my phone tells me it could work really well

But, it doesn't come out until November. So until then, I'll be keeping my options open to finding a good solution for using my ps3 controller on my pc. I'll probably try XPadder first, then this
 

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This controller looks hideous, like someone took an Xbox controller, turned it upside down, then replaced the sublime control of thumbsticks with (likely, given the results of ALL other touchpad interfaces) unresponsive touchpads. I'll stick with my logitech controller, even with all the fiddling with it needed for some games.