Report: YouTube to Buy Twitch For $1 Billion - Update
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The Dot-Com bubble. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.com_bubble]scorptatious said:As much as I like using Youtube, (I'm simply a viewer, so I don't really worry about the way Youtube handles copyright), I can't really say I agree with this.
What exactly happened in 98? I was pretty small at the time, so I didn't pay attention to that stuff.fix-the-spade said:
Just curious.
A part of me hopes they'll just acquire Twitch and have it run independently, including user policies. Another part of me knows this will not likely happen.
Let's see if the DoJ decides to intervene.
Good news for Google, bad news for us. But for $1bill I'd sell them anything they wanted.
I don't use Twitch but understand how popular it is among the community. It makes sense that YT would want to acquire it since it is the market leader and a proven platform that would benefit YT, but sad since the monopoly will grow and as others have pointed out, the draconian policies on YT, even flagging Miracle of Sound for HIS OWN VIDEO, will kill the service. Companies won on YT and can shut down anyone at any time (though I still maintain they hold NO claim whatsoever to Let's Play videos) and those same policies will absolutely make their way across to Twitch too, giving companies the ability to challenge anything they wish.
I don't use Twitch but understand how popular it is among the community. It makes sense that YT would want to acquire it since it is the market leader and a proven platform that would benefit YT, but sad since the monopoly will grow and as others have pointed out, the draconian policies on YT, even flagging Miracle of Sound for HIS OWN VIDEO, will kill the service. Companies won on YT and can shut down anyone at any time (though I still maintain they hold NO claim whatsoever to Let's Play videos) and those same policies will absolutely make their way across to Twitch too, giving companies the ability to challenge anything they wish.
PLEASE DON'T.
OH GOD PLEASE.
I don't use Twitch that often, but when I do, I am immeasurably glad that I don't have to link a social media account to it or observe the effects of rampant bullshit copyright flagging. It'd be hard to refuse $1bn, but if it's true, I really hope they do.
OH GOD PLEASE.
I don't use Twitch that often, but when I do, I am immeasurably glad that I don't have to link a social media account to it or observe the effects of rampant bullshit copyright flagging. It'd be hard to refuse $1bn, but if it's true, I really hope they do.
It's the basic corporate thinking nowadays, why waste money improving your own service when you can just buyout an already successful one and then use that one instead. Facebook is the worst offender of this when they bought a lone app for $19 billion dollars, and honestly like how The Gentleman linked above, it's either gonna be Google or Facebook that cause another Dotcom bubble burst scenario like we had back in in the early 2000s. Seriously though, YouTube shouldn't be spending this money in the first place and what they should be doing is improving their own streaming services, as well as improving their terrible copyright management that caused people to leave YouTube in the first place because of how bullshit it is. If this goes through, there goes streaming Nintendo games... >.>Eve Charm said:
Youtube doesn't want competition so they buy Twitch and get in on all of that sweet, sweet console gaming revenue that Twitch has now.Eve Charm said:
Youtube might be able to stream yes but Google had Google videos and then bought Youtube instead because it was terrible. This is essentially the same thing. Google has a sub par service so they buy out the leading competitor.
By saying "we don't comment on rumors" they pretty much confirmed that the rumor is true. If the rumor isn't true, then they only need to say one word when asked, "no". Making vague PR statements does nothing but confirm people's suspicions.
Google is really going all out trying to make sure they either eliminate or purchase all their competition.
Google is really going all out trying to make sure they either eliminate or purchase all their competition.
Can't the owners of Twitch simply say "no"?
There has to be some kind of organization that stops monopolies from becoming too crazy. Google owns enough stuff.
There has to be some kind of organization that stops monopolies from becoming too crazy. Google owns enough stuff.
Nah, it more has to do with YouTube's Streaming system being absolutely garbage. You can't just upload videos to Twitch so a lot of YouTube's abhorrent policies don't apply.Soviet Heavy said:
OP: This could go either way. I for one think that this is a sign that companies like Nintendo and Sega aren't going to be able to shit on gaming based YouTube channels with BS copyright claims for much longer. Not with Twitch's gaming focus.
Just in time for Google to capitalize on the MOBA streaming market.
They might as well remove the 'no' part entirely. It'll be much more accurate for one.Glaice said:
Well shit, I've only just started to use Twitch as a source of entertainment and now I got this looming over my head? Hell, I still don't have a google+ plus account because that shit is pointless when I still have and use my original youtube account. Does anyone know if it's actually safe for me to log out and log back in with the same youtube account, or should I just not risk it and stay logged in like I have been for the past 8 years?
The last thing Twitch needs is google pulling it's strings, cause there are only so many decent video sites out there. I cant think of any more english ones other than Daily Motion.
The last thing Twitch needs is google pulling it's strings, cause there are only so many decent video sites out there. I cant think of any more english ones other than Daily Motion.
I hope it's not true. Given the recent partnerships Twitch has signed onto, I think some of their compatriots might have an unhappy word or two to say if they were to go this way.
Unlike, say, Youtube, though, I don't think this is quite so dangerous a monopoly. I mean, yeah, Youtube remains a dangerous monopoly- but I don't feel like there are quite the hurdles to surpass if someone wanted to create a competitor in livestreaming. If people want to find stored video content, they come to Youtube to look for a lot of it first. But if people want to watch, say, a game tournament or a live presentation- well, it's still possible to link from whatever site hosts the tournament or whoever sets up the webcam; it doesn't seem like quite the same level of insurmountable networking juju that has to be in place to make such a thing happen, nor that people will only expect to see such content on one service.
Don't get me wrong, it would still suck, and there would still be some headaches in trying to bring about a change-over. But I think if Twitch gets bought out and subsequently starts to stink up the place the way Youtube has been starting to, well, I think that will ultimately lead to the downfall of Twitch, not livestreaming.
Unlike, say, Youtube, though, I don't think this is quite so dangerous a monopoly. I mean, yeah, Youtube remains a dangerous monopoly- but I don't feel like there are quite the hurdles to surpass if someone wanted to create a competitor in livestreaming. If people want to find stored video content, they come to Youtube to look for a lot of it first. But if people want to watch, say, a game tournament or a live presentation- well, it's still possible to link from whatever site hosts the tournament or whoever sets up the webcam; it doesn't seem like quite the same level of insurmountable networking juju that has to be in place to make such a thing happen, nor that people will only expect to see such content on one service.
Don't get me wrong, it would still suck, and there would still be some headaches in trying to bring about a change-over. But I think if Twitch gets bought out and subsequently starts to stink up the place the way Youtube has been starting to, well, I think that will ultimately lead to the downfall of Twitch, not livestreaming.
No. Copyright law is causing the problems. According to the law youtube must take down any content thats complained about BEFORE checking if the complaint is legit. thats very fucked up and you can thank Disney for it.thisbymaster said:
I could register a company and make a complaint about escapist video using my copyright complaint, they woudl be taken down and if proven that i am wrong (obviuosly) i would need to release the video within 30 days. after 30 days i can jsut file the complaint again. there is no legal repercussion for this for me. This is what Nintendo is doing on youtube actually.
There is plenty, like Blip.tv for example. Most of them you have to pay to be able to provide content or proven your "worthy" beforehand. They kinda died when Twitch came around in terms of popularity.klaynexas3 said:
well, that would be a good thing though. why must you stream your crappy music when i want to watch a game?Tien Shen said: