Researchers Identify Security Exploit in Origin
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As much as I hate EA.. This isn't really an issue, I mean, first they have to get you on a site related to Origin, so they know you have it, second you have to click the link.. Don't know about most people but I don't use anything web related for Origin other than battlelog.
So, while it's a security loop hole, I feel it could be massively avoided with the use of common sense.
So, while it's a security loop hole, I feel it could be massively avoided with the use of common sense.
Hah, I've actually never thought of it that way, sounds reasonable, so maybe I can use Origin for something more than BF3 after all. However, I won't, because they need to learn that several years old games are NOT worth the kind of money they're asking for it. I'm not paying 60$ for a digital copy of ME3. Maybe when they release a GotY edition I could get a physical copy, we'll see.jackpipsam said:
Anyway, I like how he says "hypotheticals like these" when it's BEEN DEMONSTRATED, repeatedly. The classy thing to do here would be to just apologize, fix it and move on.
Wrong. Origin links can be inserted in any website on which an XSS (cross-site scripting) vulnerability is being exploited. Because security knowledge is not the strong point of most of web developers, these kinds of attacks are extremely common.Elate said:
To prevent being targeted by such an attack, I recommend turning off or removing any browser plug-ins you are not using, especially Java. Flash is relatively safe nowadays, though.
See @Aardvark_Soup's reply above. Further, this is a vuln that could easily be exploited via an ad--no XSS needed. There's really not much of a mitigating factor for this vulnerability. That's why remote, unauthenticated, arbitrary code execution is the absolute highest order of security vulnerabilities.Aeshi said:
Oh, and have you noticed how lately, exploits are targeted not so much at browsers, but at plugins? Yeah. There's a reason Firefox is going to click-to-play for Flash.
This can't be applied to GoG, as they don't enforce any kind of DRM.Mr Cwtchy said:I don't know how you can say that for this case when the exploit has only just been found. All it really proves is that both Steam and Origin have less than adequate security.Incomer said:It's the same thing as Steam was years ago. That's why people trash it, Steam already solved most of those problems while Origin keeps doing them again
Isn't there a third store out there too? GoG? Wondering now if this exploit is possible there too.
Translation: "We don't give a shit." (pretty much Microsoft's attitude when it comes to every 2nd OS release)
EDIT: On the subject of getting hacked: I haven't been hacked since installing Windows Server 2008R2. And I run neither a firewall nor any kind of Antivirus, just scans with Live DVDs from time to time.
Well, I can certainly see why you'd think it was vitriol over nothing, if you were born yesterday and have never actually heard of EA except in forum posts as opposed to in the context of things they have actually done in the world. Allow me to assure you that hate for EA actually stems from a very large number of real reasons. I won't insult your intelligence by assuming you need help to find them if you're interested in educating yourself on the matter... you can find them pretty much anywhere.Ympulse said:
Point being that the service is vulnerable to a specific exploit, through scripts. This is an additional vulnerability caused by the service.Aeshi said:
And the random links don't have to be all that suspicious. I got my computer infected through scriptjacking while reading a Resident Evil wiki. Just a regular wiki, nothing any more suss than anywhere else. A system restore and much tinkering later, I learned my lesson and used NoScript. (Funny story: I beat the infection through overclocking).
OT: Yeah, it's worrying, and it's an issue which has been seen before, which makes it pretty clear that yet again, Origin is behind the curve. On the other hand, this sort of thing can happen (Though far less easily) in other cases, so this might be a good time for people to learn a little about the potential for scriptjacking, and all manner of nasties.
Too Late....
Some would say, if you were worried about your privacy, you would not have installed Origin in the first place..... Surprising news, EA's distribution / spyware platform allows you to be spied on.
And before you say it, the EULA did not change from them having the right to gather whatever info they want from your machine, when you decide to use it. And this is not the same as Facebook as you decide what you want to share with the world and as a by product Facebook. Origin, unlike Steam where the surveys are optional, gives you no choice in what is uploaded to EA....
This is how EA has gotten around not being able to sell the info they gather to 3rd parties as in the original EULA. Now they just give 3rd parties a conduit to get the info directly.....
Some would say, if you were worried about your privacy, you would not have installed Origin in the first place..... Surprising news, EA's distribution / spyware platform allows you to be spied on.
And before you say it, the EULA did not change from them having the right to gather whatever info they want from your machine, when you decide to use it. And this is not the same as Facebook as you decide what you want to share with the world and as a by product Facebook. Origin, unlike Steam where the surveys are optional, gives you no choice in what is uploaded to EA....
This is how EA has gotten around not being able to sell the info they gather to 3rd parties as in the original EULA. Now they just give 3rd parties a conduit to get the info directly.....
Too late.evilneko said:
I think he's pointing out that PEOPLE DO. They just do, for whatever reason that's as random as the randomosity it took to do that.CrossLOPER said:
OT: Oh, big surprise. Another shit hits the fan and they answer in corporate double-talk that can be construed as "We will sit with our thumbs up our asses for the time being.". Heh, and some folks wonder why we're angry. That's funny as hell right there.
There is still yet a significant amount of people who aren't as savvy as you or I.CrossLOPER said:
Well, basically...CrossLOPER said:
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...they're not exactly all spring chickens here, you know. Savviness DOES have a hand in it. If you were NEVER that bright, but you live in this age... You can't tell me that everyone who flips on a computer is all that bright. I mean, look at the internet! It's a very cool thing, but not everybody using it is that wise. I feel that that is significant.
