Yeah... I only played the demo, but if looked pretty awful at being both an action game, and a survival-horror game.Mcoffey said:
Resident Evil has never been known for having good controls, but it's not too late to change! Is it?
Resident Evil Is a Child, Capcom and Fans Are Its Parents
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Resident Evil has never been known for having good controls, but it's not too late to change! Is it?
Capcom, you've made your case that fans are whiny and difficulty to satisfy no matter what you try.
Fans, you've stated quite clearly that you don't believe this "new direction" for the franchise is going to lead to anything positive.
In a custody battle like this, especially once it gets this heated, it's in the child's best interest to stay in the care of a competent, yet disconnected third party until this all gets sorted out.
Paul W.S. Anderson, we leave Resident Evil in your hands until a settlement can be reached.
Fans, you've stated quite clearly that you don't believe this "new direction" for the franchise is going to lead to anything positive.
In a custody battle like this, especially once it gets this heated, it's in the child's best interest to stay in the care of a competent, yet disconnected third party until this all gets sorted out.
Paul W.S. Anderson, we leave Resident Evil in your hands until a settlement can be reached.
sadly the question is how many games can you make that use inventory boxes, type-writers and cranks along with count-downs before people get sick of the same old tropes?? As I stated before in other threads we got around 5-6 true resident games if you count resident evil 0, code veronica and revelations.Omegatronacles said:
Hell I'm a die hard resident evil fan that owns nearly version of games on every platform including the original ps1 large box and Sega Saturn versions of one. Hell in my spare time I do some modding, for the Japanese release of 2 and 3 on the pc in 2006 by source next to add new skins, weapons etc.
However the main fact remains is this the games we grew up loving from the mid 90's to the early turn of the century just don't appeal to the market anymore and is dead, no amount of t or g virus will bring it back to life either, "pun is intended"
If capcom wants to sell their product at a chance of making decent revenue then they have no choice but to adapt what actually sells in the market, die hard fans like us can not support company need millions of units sold world wide. Ahem yeah.. I'm done with this debate for now, I'll just leave some re2 modding for the pc below.
Correction . Survival horror , there is a difference . The game wasn't "scary " in the sense that it frightens you like say Amnesia does . But the horror comes from surviving under unfavorable circumstances . The atmosphere , the lack of ammo/healing items , not knowing if you are able to make it to your next destination ( or save point back in the day ). If something attacks you do you have the resources to take it head on . Is it better to run away . If i run how far will i get , will there be something lurking in the shadows ready to pounce in the panic . If i do take it head on will i be able to continue after having used up my resouces .Zhukov said:
All of that is gone . It's all about the action , the spectacle . There is no tension , there is no atmosphere , there is no stress , no more survival. And when you take away the survival , the horror leaves with it . It's very hard to make a horror game without the survival part . They turned it into action/ horror , and quite frankly , action horror just doesn't work . It just becomes action gore at best . And just action with zombies at worst .
RE4 managed to keep the survival horror aspect even though it was a little more actiony . That's why people liked it so much , or at least that's what i think .
Anyways those are my 2 cents , coming from an ex-fan of RE .
Am I the only person in the world who actually loves Resident Evil games?
They are what they are; and I've never played one I've not had a whole ton of fun with.
What is this insistance that they go back in time to clunky controls and 'horror' that was never scary after the 2nd game? Personally, I'm more then happy with a few scares you do get; fun, interesting characters and cheesy plot-lines. So it doesn't take itself seriously. So what? It doesn't make it any less fun.
I love the action in those games. Far more then other action titles. I realise I'm in the minority but honestly RE is one of an increasingly dwindling supply of games I can get excited about these days. This generation of consoles has being getting increasingly bland and uninteresting; stop decrying one of the few interesting ones left!
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They are what they are; and I've never played one I've not had a whole ton of fun with.
What is this insistance that they go back in time to clunky controls and 'horror' that was never scary after the 2nd game? Personally, I'm more then happy with a few scares you do get; fun, interesting characters and cheesy plot-lines. So it doesn't take itself seriously. So what? It doesn't make it any less fun.
I love the action in those games. Far more then other action titles. I realise I'm in the minority but honestly RE is one of an increasingly dwindling supply of games I can get excited about these days. This generation of consoles has being getting increasingly bland and uninteresting; stop decrying one of the few interesting ones left!
rant over
Allow me to make myself abundantly clear on this topic. The fans are the ones who buy the product and have bought the product since the beginning of the franchise, they are the source of cash-flow. When designing a game for a franchise the fans opinions are the ONLY opinions that matter. Feel free to tweak what is asked for, but don't ever make the assumption that your personal opinion or "artistic license" is more important than a fanbase millions strong and a franchise dearly loved.
As for the "parent" analogy, I agree with everyone who paints the fans as the neglected wife and the franchise as an abused child.
As for the "parent" analogy, I agree with everyone who paints the fans as the neglected wife and the franchise as an abused child.
On a personal level, I bought it because I had a blast with my friend playing co-op on the second demo.
I just had a thought - surely the move towards action is a consequence of (/consistent with) the story, if nothing else? You can't establish someone like Umbrella Corp., building zombie viruses to take over the world with and expect them to sit on it in creepy old mansions forever just to maintain an identical atmosphere for seven or eight games. It'll probably be a goofy story as ever, but my curiosity is at least vaguely piqued by the escalation of the series - first few games go from lab to lab, 4 had an outbreak in one village, 5 was the same but across one country, 6 is a series of biological attacks across the world.
As for the not-being-survival-horror complaints - I seem to end up rolling in ammo regardless ever since Resi 4, so it hardly seems like a new complaint.
I just had a thought - surely the move towards action is a consequence of (/consistent with) the story, if nothing else? You can't establish someone like Umbrella Corp., building zombie viruses to take over the world with and expect them to sit on it in creepy old mansions forever just to maintain an identical atmosphere for seven or eight games. It'll probably be a goofy story as ever, but my curiosity is at least vaguely piqued by the escalation of the series - first few games go from lab to lab, 4 had an outbreak in one village, 5 was the same but across one country, 6 is a series of biological attacks across the world.
As for the not-being-survival-horror complaints - I seem to end up rolling in ammo regardless ever since Resi 4, so it hardly seems like a new complaint.
Yeah, people are just being the stupid cunts that they usually are when this sort of stuff happens.natster43 said:
I mean, I don't like the game, and in this analogy I do see Capcom as an abusive husband/parent, but Metacritic is just fucking dumb. 0.5 should equal 'barley functional, looks like dogshit, no redeeming features whatsoever' and I can only think of a few games that fit that description. Any of the Resident Evil games not being them.
I really like the title of the article. It makes me laugh. So capcom, how about we talk about the other child? You know, the one your trying to sign all the papers to give over to a orphanage? Oh right, mega man. (let it burn, fans. Let the hatred boil, as i know it is strong with me)
I haven't played it yet, but 0.5? Come on. I've never even seen a game that was a 0.5. It'd have to be downright unplayable for that to happen. I really doubt it's actually as bad as everyone says. I mean, it might still be bad, but I can't believe it'd be 0.5 bad. This seems like a pretty big overreaction.
The Metacritic bombing is happening so often now that it's impossible to take it even remotely seriously, I expect the same treatment with Dead Space 3 and Hitman Absolution regardless of their quality or lack thereof.natster43 said:
Even fucking Big Rigs Over The Road Racing has a higher user score than any of the games that have been metabombed; there's something just plain wrong about that.Baron_Rouge said:
Indeed. There are not really many well known games that are so bad that they deserve a score of less than 5/10, and none are so bad that they have absolutely nothing redeemable like a 0.5/10 would suggest.Kopikatsu said:
People love to go to extremes though.