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Resurrection F is in theaters, now. And last night, I went with several friends and watched in in a sold out local showing. Having had a day to digest it, I thought I would see if anyone has been talking about it here. And to my surprise, no one has. Shame on you, Escapist.

So let's start with a basic plot synopsis for those who don't know.

This movie takes place after the defeat of Majin Buu and our hero's encounter with Beerus, the God of Destruction. Goku and Vegeta have been training with Whis, Beerus's retainer. But off in space, the remnants of Frieza's army is alive and well. Struggling to maintain to control of Frieza's domain, they also strive to revive him with the Dragon Balls. However, unable to find New Namek, they resolve to send a small team to Earth to avoid detection by the Z Warriors and use Earth's Dragon Balls to fulfill this goal. And they "enlist" the aide of Pilaf and his cronies to this end.

After returning Frieza to the land of the living, they abscond and use the newest regenration technology to heal the tyrant. However, he can't simply ignore the existence of Goku and his friends and resolves to get his revenge. Even if he must train to prepare for that goal. After six months, he is ready for his vengeance.

Thanks to Galactic Patrolman Jaco, Bulma is able to warn the Z Warriors of Frieza's approach. However, Goku and Vegeta are off with Whis training completely unaware of the impending threat. So, it's up to Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Krillen, Master Roshi, and (the unwilling) Jaco to fend off 1,000 of Frieza's henchmen until help can arrive.

So how does it fair?

Well, I felt like the characters, especially the fighters, were all given a chance to shine. Even though some may not have had a lot of screen time, like Videl and 18, I still enjoyed their scenes. There was quite a bit of comedy, most of it hitting quite well on target. Try not to laugh at Beerus's - I mean- Lord Beerus's outbursts with Whis, who seems to take it all in stride.

However, the fights are what we're all here to see. And they don't disappoint. The huge battle between the Z Warriors and Frieza's minions is actually a nice change of pace and allows each character to really show their stuff once again. Even Roshi manages some rather impressive moments. It could even be the highlight of the movie. But that might just be because it's rather fresh in Dragon Ball Z.

The eventual battle between Goku and Frieza is quite good. Especially when they each take it up to their new forms, the mouthful Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan and the aptly titled Golden Frieza. I always feel a fight is best in an anime when it seems it could go either way and this one manages that. At least, until Goku and Vegeta figure out Golden Frieza's weakness. It all ends rather appropriately, though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed in the exact outcome.

Also, make sure you check out the after Credits scene. It doesn't set up a new movie or villain, like Marvel, but it should get a smile out of you.

Bottom Line: If you're a DBZ fan, this movie should entertain you.

So, what about you, Escapists? Have you seen it? Did you enjoy it, if so?
 

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I'm calling it now: Team Fourstar makes Lord Beerus the ultimate binge drinker in the universe with Wakko Warner belch attacks.


Other than that, I got nothin' because I haven't been watchin' DBZ in years.
 

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I thought the big army fight scenes were all very good, but the Goku vs. F fight was comparatively boring. Never felt the stakes in that one - Goku is always in control. He owns F from start to finish.
 

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FalloutJack said:
I'm calling it now: Team Fourstar makes Lord Beerus the ultimate binge drinker in the universe with Wakko Warner belch attacks.

Other than that, I got nothin' because I haven't been watchin' DBZ in years.
Take a drink every time one of the characters shouts "AAAA!" while charging up an energy beam!
 

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Silentpony said:
FalloutJack said:
I'm calling it now: Team Fourstar makes Lord Beerus the ultimate binge drinker in the universe with Wakko Warner belch attacks.

Other than that, I got nothin' because I haven't been watchin' DBZ in years.
Take a drink every time one of the characters shouts "AAAA!" while charging up an energy beam!
Judas Priest! Around the Namek saga alone, I'll be dead from alchohol poisoning or toppling over someone while shouting "I love ya bashturd! Bleeeaaagggfff!!".
 

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FalloutJack said:
I'm calling it now: Team Fourstar makes Lord Beerus the ultimate binge drinker in the universe with Wakko Warner belch attacks.

Other than that, I got nothin' because I haven't been watchin' DBZ in years.
I could see them making him a belligerent drunk. That would be pretty funny.

"Hey... I-I-I'm gonna... to blou up yer planet. (hic)"

Johnny Novgorod said:
I thought the big army fight scenes were all very good, but the Goku vs. F fight was comparatively boring. Never felt the stakes in that one - Goku is always in control. He owns F from start to finish.
I don't entirely disagree with you. At first, the battle with Golden Frieza was pretty balanced, but once they identified his weakness, it became pretty obvious that Goku was in control. Still loved seeing him perform a one inch punch, though.
 

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I want to know whose KaizerNeko voiced in the movie. All I know is that Lanipator mention is that he voiced a minor character or a minor role.
 

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Scarim Coral said:
I want to know whose KaizerNeko voiced in the movie. All I know is that Lanipator mention is that he voiced a minor character or a minor role.
I was wondering that myself. So I did a quick search and apparently Tagoma doesn't have a credited English Voice Actor. So people are thinking Kaiser voiced him. That would be the fighter that went to Earth with Sorbet.

Actually looking up how many characters Kaiser has voiced in DBZA, made me realize he's pretty talented. He voices a lot of characters who have completely different voices. Oolong, Trunks, and King Kai to name a few.
 

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Saltyk said:
So, it's up to Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Krillen, Master Roshi, and (the unwilling) Jaco to fend off 1,000 of Frieza's henchmen until help can arrive.
No Yamcha? :(

Well, no surprises there. Most screwed over DB character after Launch.
Then again at least Launch was spared a lot of humiliation and character downgrades.
 

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So I just went to see it last night with less than favorable seating (that's what happens when you let someone who is far more arrogant, childish, and immature call the shots) and I have to say that I enjoyed it.

Not the whole thing, mind you, there are bits and pieces here that stood out and didn't make sense.

So basically, anything that didn't involve Frieza, Goku, and Vegeta, which I know sounds weird, but I'll elaborate.

The jokes involving all the other characters not belonging from the above characters where actually entertaining. I guess it was very reminiscing of Dragon Ball, which at this point seems like ancient history compared to the idea of Goku and Frieza having a rematch in 2015. I like how all the characters still maintained their core characteristic and personalities, which honestly is what makes them more enduring than the ever power level hulking Goku and Vegeta.

Even Jago, who I've only known by chance because I've read a few chapters of his manga, provided a refreshing level of silliness while still being a bad ass (insert 'RIP - Child Goku' pic here).

The fight between the secondary Z fighters and Frieza's army was awesome, as it displayed that when the ultra powerful powerhouses are taken out of the picture, they are quite a formidable force. I hope that the new anime will focus on two story lines: one that consists of this group of 'weak' fighters taking on small earthbound threats and another that will have Goku and Vegeta taking on galactic flying spaghetti monster overlords.

Oh, and Frieza's weakness and why he ultimately fails made perfect sense (although it was pretty apparent that he wasn't going to be a threat for very long).

Everything that involved Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza.

There were a lot of questions involving these characters that made it difficult to really enjoy the film.

How could Frieza be resurrected? I though that Shenron could only bring someone back to life within a year after their death (that wasn't natural). Did this chance when Dende became the Earth's Guardian?

Frieza was really that powerful (i.e. a power level of 12,000,000 at max) at birth? And he never trained a day in his life until he was resurrected? If his species was so powerful, why were there only two of them in existence?

Are you telling me that Goku was not only able to go Super Saiyan God without the prescence of five other Saiyans, but he was also able to achieve a form far more power than that, ala Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, and Beerus and Whis still don't consider this form a threat to them?

For that matter, is Vegeta on the same level as Goku? He must be to some degree if he was able to achieve Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan when before Battle of Z, Vegeta was only able to go Super Saiyan 2 while Goku was capable to achieving Super Saiyan 3.

How does goes Goku get completely derailed by a simple ray gun shot? He couldn't sense it, react to it, dodge it, swat it away, be immune to it? etc. etc. I remember when Goku took a Death Beam to the face and it didn't phase him.


I thought that Frieza was going to poison him, as Goku is susceptible to diseases.

Why didn't the world get destroying while Goku and Frieza were fighting? I mean, the amount of destruction they cause just by powering up would mean that every shock wave that resulted in a punch, kick, or energy blast/stream could have destroyed a good chunk of the surface of Earth.

The fact that Frieza was able to effortlessly destroy the Earth is proof of this.

As an aside, I really dislike a lot of the dumb fan input when the movie was going on.

They really didn't know who Beerus, Whis, Jago, or Frieza's henchmen where? None of them read the translated Resurrection of Frieza 3 chapter manga special?

This also happened when I saw Ant-Man in theaters; I knew they were fans because they were siting behind me and they were completely obnoxious.

So please fans, don't be d***s to your own media and fanbase, and fanboys, well there's really no redemption for you, is there?
 

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Watched it tonight. Surprised how funny it was; it felt like watching an MCU movie, full of quips and shout outs that play well to a crowd. You could tell the cinema was full of DBZ fans because one of the biggest laughs was from Tien saying he left Yamcha and Chiaotzu behind because they weren't strong enough to handle Frieza soldiers.

That said, I don't think it stuck the landing very well. The jokes that were so good in the first two thirds really wore out their welcome during the climactic Goku vs Frieza fight. Even when it was meant to be getting serious, it just felt anticlimactic. That said, I still enjoyed it a lot.
 

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CrimsonBlaze said:
If [Frieza's] species was so powerful, why were there only two of them in existence?
It's not evident from the franchise (possibly barring the Xenoverse game), but Toriyama did actually touch on that in interviews. Apparently Frieza's family line had a genetic anomaly in it that made them exceptionally strong in comparison to the rest of their race, and Frieza was exceptionally strong in comparison to the rest of his family.
 

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Asita said:
CrimsonBlaze said:
If [Frieza's] species was so powerful, why were there only two of them in existence?
It's not evident from the franchise (possibly barring the Xenoverse game), but Toriyama did actually touch on that in interviews. Apparently Frieza's family line had a genetic anomaly in it that made them exceptionally strong in comparison to the rest of their race, and Frieza was exceptionally strong in comparison to the rest of his family.
I may piss some people of but I'm go to say it, Toriyama sucks at world building. not to say he's a bad writer just world building seems to be his Achilles heel. Hell we don't even know what Frieza's race is even called (Besides cell calling them frost demons in Xenoverse but I have my doubts he would really know that) And the only things were getting is tidbits from Toriyama recently to build the world and some of the Dragon Ball Z games(Dragon Ball Online and Xenoverse). I thing Dragon Ball Would really benefit from some more expanding universe stuff like Star Wars and Dr. who
 

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tf2godz said:
I may piss some people of but I'm go to say it, Toriyama sucks at world building. not to say he's a bad writer just world building seems to be his Achilles heel. Hell we don't even know what Frieza's race is even called (Besides cell calling them frost demons in Xenoverse but I have my doubts he would really know that) And the only things were getting is tidbits from Toriyama recently to build the world and some of the Dragon Ball Z games(Dragon Ball Online and Xenoverse). I thing Dragon Ball Would really benefit from some more expanding universe stuff like Star Wars and Dr. who
Eh, I'm not sure it has enough room to grow for an expanded universe. Star Wars and Doctor Who both benefited from the way they focused on a galactic and universal scale, respectively, and allowed divergent philosophies to take center stage. Even before taking different worlds and sentient races into account, the Light and Dark conflict (later codified as Jedi and Sith) was easy enough to refine and expand on even within the context of a single city (or a more reasonably sized one, but enough about Coruscant), and what we knew of them gave people enough to extrapolate, theorize, and make head-canon with, to say nothing of the breathing room given by the sheer scope of the central conflicts of the franchise. Doctor Who being pretty much "hey, want to see something cool?" in show form almost gave its fanbase a carte blanche to work with and often played off that itself. That's the world that made giant pepper shakers with whisks and plungers, angel statues, shadows, and copying into terrifyingly implacable monsters. It's a veritable paradise for those who like to explore concepts, where the imagination has all of time and space as a playground, and the interaction with those concepts is the entire point of the show in the first place.

You don't have that kind of leeway or high concept exploration in Dragon Ball as it is a show about fights with a loose inspiration from Journey to the West. Not a lot of stretching room, exactly.