Retro Console Gamers! Share your A/V setup.

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Ryan Hughes

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So, I recently bought a GameCube off of Craigslist for $10 USD, a great deal, and have been having some fun with it, though it is a latter model when Nintendo ditched their digital component-out mode and opted to cheapen the price of the console by only offering the standard analogue A/V-out that they had been using ever since the Super Nintendo.

Lucky me, I had on hand some high-quality universal S-Video cables for the 6th-gen machines, and I must say Twilight Princess and Wind Waker look fantastic through it. My TV is a Samsung LCD, that luckily enough has programming that enhances the 480i signal from S-Video using the last interlaced frame as a reference. This makes the output closer to 480 progressive than 480 interlaced. Also, the colors look gorgeous, because as a fluke of the S-Video's analogue, the color richness tends to be higher than component cables. Especially for cell-shaded games like Wind Waker, which already rely heavily on rich color schemes.

This is all very good, because I just cannot get over how terrible older games and their consoles look over composite RCA cables through non-CRT monitors sometimes, especially the 5th-gen N64 and PSone, because the noise to signal ratio is so high. Oddly, the SNES and Genesis / Mega Drive look alright, if for no other reason than they rarely tried to have fully rendered graphics and just used sprites instead.

The GameCube might even look superior to my composite-rendered PS2, if only because most of the PS2 games I still play -like Silent Hill 2- do not support progressive-scan, and thus are subject to my TV's 480i - 480p up-res anyway. And because the colors -while sharper- are more faded through the digital component.

So, escapists, share your retro console gaming A/V setup here! Do you use composite / S-Video when you can? or can you tolerate the composite cables? do you have a CRT TV that you use especially for the older consoles for that retro feel? What kind of sound setup do you use?
 

Frezzato

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I have two 24" Samsung HDTVs (1080p) with VGA/DVI input as well as HDMI, coax, component and composite. I got them specifically for the composite inputs believe it or not, as I believe it will disappear as we go well into the digital age.

The inputs come in handy as I have a Genesis, Dreamcast, N64, PS1, 360, Wii and PS3, of which I can only keep a few hooked up at a time. The Dreamcast has a VGA-out cable though, which is very cool. I bought a composite cable for the Genesis because the old RF input looked like crap. I can't believe how clear it looks with it. I think I may have an S-video input on one of my TVs but I've never used it.

On top of it all I've got my TVs on Ergotron arms. I also hooked up my PC with dual display output and my Macbook. I often find myself playing a game while watching a Blu-ray or Netflix at the same time.
 

Ryan Hughes

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That is very nice to hear that the Dreamcast has VGA compatibility, that console is next on my list to get, because it is so easy to acquire games for it *cough*. My Samsung TV has an unused VGA port ready to go. On that note, with the TVs, buy once, buy right. Or, in your case, buy twice, buy right. I have never regretted spending the extra money for the Samsung, as the de-interlacing capability and all the input connectors are more than worth it.

If you have never tried S-Video then I suggest you do. I had never tried it before this, either, and was pleasantly surprised. Since the video is separated from the audio, there is no noise feedback, making the picture much clearer. For RCA composite cables, there is no way to tell actual resolution, as there is so much noise in the signal. But theoretically, they max out at 240i and 360i depending on the era. S-Video theoretically maxes out at 480i for NTSC, with much lower signal to noise ratio. The blacks are much darker and the video much brighter as a result. However, the analogue chroma (color) part of the signal provides richer colors than composite, kinda like how Vinyl Records can sometimes sound better than MP3s due to a lack of compression.
 

Frezzato

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Ryan Hughes said:
My apologies, TBH I forgot to check back on this thread.

The craziest thing about my Dreamcast is my friend actually sent it to me. He recently had a kid and needed more room. He was a huge fan of the DC back when it was first released (which should tell you that we're old-ish). The weirdest part is he wasn't so much a fan of games in general, but rather the hardware.

In addition to the DC he sent me an arcade fighting stick and those dual-stick flight controls that were perfect for Virtual On. Again, he didn't really play fighting games or Virtual On :) I remember he even bought a Japanese copy of Gran Turismo for PS1 despite the fact that he: 1.) Doesn't like driving games and 2.) Doesn't speak/read Japanese.
Seeing how he lives in the US, that means he had to chip his PS1, which he also sent me.

Now the really sad part. He sent me his N64 and a small collection of games, one of which was Goldeneye. I'm not so much into retro gaming because I missed it all back when it was actually happening, but I did get into gaming during the Xbox 1 craze, which I bought, and eventually got the PS3, 360 and Wii. Hell, I even have my old, barely functioning Game Gear still.

I became a console collector overnight thanks to my friend. I even bought a still-sealed copy of Chu Chu Rocket for DC (seriously, it's awesome). I think I'm happy with retro consoles for now, although I'd like to re-acquire a PS2 (for Oni), Game Cube (mainly for Rogue Squadron), and perhaps definitely Mario 64.
 

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Ryan Hughes said:
The GameCube might even look superior to my composite-rendered PS2, if only because most of the PS2 games I still play -like Silent Hill 2- do not support progressive-scan, and thus are subject to my TV's 480i - 480p up-res anyway.
I would actually recommend buying a PS2 component cable while you can still find them. If you live in NA then there's less than 5 games that the PS2 can output in 1080i, one of them being Gran Turismo 4, but the overall list of 480p games is pretty good [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_with_HD_support]. Shadow of the Colossus can output in 480p with component as well. At the time, SoTC looked fantastic.