Returning Duke Nukem after one day

[DoctorPhil]

You bought the console version? Oh boy.... You know the console versions of PC games are always inferior, why even bother?

The PC version is allright, I'm pretty disappointed too though, since it's too much like a modern shhoter, and not old school. I guess old school shooters don't work on consoles, and consoles are simply too big a market to ignore.

My major gripe is the sniper rifle...... What?! Duke Nukem doesn't need a fucking sniper rifle! Sniper rifles are for pussies, Duke Nukem would never use that thing, he'd get right in the middle of the action and blow shit up with middle and close range weapons.

The moral of this story: modern shooters suck and never buy console FPSs.

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna go play Duke Nukem 3D (AKA the greatest FPS of ALL TIME)

I've never played any of the previous DN games.

.......What the FUCK.............

 

[Archemetis]

I'm currently at my girlfriends house, my Balls of Steel edition waiting for me to return home.

So I have no say on what the game is like at this current moment.

That being said though, How many of the people here went into this game with 12 years of expectations?
Seriously now people have the Fable games taught us all nothing?

Of course Duke Nukem Forever isn't going to be as good as you all Imagined it would be.

I'm not defending it, like I said, my copy is still in it's packaging, two miles away.
So I don't have a clue about the quality right now.

But even before I go home, I'm not entering that game with any expectations, I've purposely avoided video content, hype and anything else that would sway my overall opinion of game.

Because I think a game needs to stand up on it's own to impress me.
Having pre-conceived notions about it isn't helping matters.

Also I've learned my hard lesson from buying every Fable game released on consoles thus far...

Maybe Duke Nukem won't be a great game, or maybe it'll be the first FPS in years I'll actually enjoy, I'm happy to say that I honestly have no idea yet.

And I personally think that losing the expectations is a mind-set a lot of gamers could stand to adopt.

Maybe that way we'd start appreciating games for their actual worth, as opposed to what we thought they were worth.

TL;DR: Stop judging it based on what you thought it was going to be like, 12 years of hype helps no one, not even Duke.

[Brief edit: It's come to my attention that this post somehow wasn't very specific on who it was aimed at, If you, like me haven't/didn't go into DNF with any prior expectations, then fine, go ahead and enjoy/hate it if that's what you want to do.

Just please don't quote me telling me you played it without expectations, because it's pretty obvious I wasn't aiming it at you guys... I mean really.

 

[Gentleman_Reptile]

I'm currently at my girlfriends house, my Balls of Steel edition waiting for me to return home.

So I have no say on what the game is like at this current moment.

That being said though, How many of the people here went into this game with 12 years of expectations?
Seriously now people have the Fable games taught us all nothing?

Of course Duke Nukem Forever isn't going to be as good as you all Imagined it would be.

I'm not defending it, like I said, my copy is still in it's packaging, two miles away.
So I don't have a clue about the quality right now.

But even before I go home, I'm not entering that game with any expectations, I've purposely avoided video content, hype and anything else that would sway my overall opinion of game.

Because I think a game needs to stand up on it's own to impress me.
Having pre-conceived notions about it isn't helping matters.

Also I've learned my hard lesson from buying every Fable game released on consoles thus far...

Maybe Duke Nukem won't be a great game, or maybe it'll be the first FPS in years I'll actually enjoy, I'm happy to say that I honestly have no idea yet.

And I personally think that losing the expectations is a mind-set a lot of gamers could stand to adopt.

Maybe that way we'd start appreciating games for their actual worth, as opposed to what we thought they were worth.

TL;DR: Stop judging it based on what you thought it was going to be like, 12 years of hype helps no one, not even Duke.

Thats exactly the thing. I have never played the old Duke games, I never had special expectations, just professional standards. I'm not looking at it through rose tinted glasses. I was the exact type of person it could have impressed, and it failed miserably.

 

[cainx10a]

After watching TotalBiscuit's WTF video, even if it was the first hour, how I wish First Person Shooters was about the shooting part rather than the gimmicky turret/driving/cutscene section. I always enjoyed watching gameplay video, but this one, bored me to tears.

 

[Archemetis]

I'm currently at my girlfriends house, my Balls of Steel edition waiting for me to return home.

So I have no say on what the game is like at this current moment.

That being said though, How many of the people here went into this game with 12 years of expectations?
Seriously now people have the Fable games taught us all nothing?

Of course Duke Nukem Forever isn't going to be as good as you all Imagined it would be.

I'm not defending it, like I said, my copy is still in it's packaging, two miles away.
So I don't have a clue about the quality right now.

But even before I go home, I'm not entering that game with any expectations, I've purposely avoided video content, hype and anything else that would sway my overall opinion of game.

Because I think a game needs to stand up on it's own to impress me.
Having pre-conceived notions about it isn't helping matters.

Also I've learned my hard lesson from buying every Fable game released on consoles thus far...

Maybe Duke Nukem won't be a great game, or maybe it'll be the first FPS in years I'll actually enjoy, I'm happy to say that I honestly have no idea yet.

And I personally think that losing the expectations is a mind-set a lot of gamers could stand to adopt.

Maybe that way we'd start appreciating games for their actual worth, as opposed to what we thought they were worth.

TL;DR: Stop judging it based on what you thought it was going to be like, 12 years of hype helps no one, not even Duke.

Thats exactly the thing. I have never played the old Duke games, I never had special expectations, just professional standards. I'm not looking at it through rose tinted glasses. I was the exact type of person it could have impressed, and it failed miserably.

This wasn't aimed at you then...
Have fun being entitled to your opinion.

 

[Danceofmasks]

You bought the console version? Oh boy.... You know the console versions of PC games are always inferior, why even bother?

The PC version is allright, I'm pretty disappointed too though, since it's too much like a modern shhoter, and not old school. I guess old school shooters don't work on consoles, and consoles are simply too big a market to ignore.

My major gripe is the sniper rifle...... What?! Duke Nukem doesn't need a fucking sniper rifle! Sniper rifles are for pussies, Duke Nukem would never use that thing, he'd get right in the middle of the action and blow shit up with middle and close range weapons.

The moral of this story: modern shooters suck and never buy console FPSs.

Wait what ... DNF is totally a "modern shooter."
From linear levels to regenerating health to the 2 weapon limit to the hour freakin' long tutorial that's nothing but handholding ...

How is anything in this game old school?!

 

[Kujakuseki01]

OP is just trying to do Yahtzee's shtick here. Uninteresting, erudition plagued by a lack of owning one's own personality. You're drawing your opinionated statements and harsh rhetoric from Yahtzee, and you've not displayed any original level of thought.

Stick to watching videos done by professionals and go back to playing Call of Duty. You've not got much of a valid opinion, and a game like that is more at your level.

 

[Katana314]

TL;DR: Stop judging it based on what you thought it was going to be like, 12 years of hype helps no one, not even Duke.

You're absolutely correct that we should enter with no notions of what it should be like. However, I didn't buy into any hype, only watched one or two videos, and was only mildly interested. I didn't expect much from the demo, and I didn't get much.

Once again, I refer to Yahtzee's chart.

 

[Legion]

I just hope it does well enough for a sequel - which I think if given the chance to make from the bottom up Gearbox could make a fantastic DN game.

You mean 12 years is not enough time?

 

[Archemetis]

TL;DR: Stop judging it based on what you thought it was going to be like, 12 years of hype helps no one, not even Duke.

You're absolutely correct that we should enter with no notions of what it should be like. However, I didn't buy into any hype, only watched one or two videos, and was only mildly interested. I didn't expect much from the demo, and I didn't get much.

Once again, I refer to Yahtzee's chart.

I don't know what I'm supposed to be getting from this little chart other than I was... Right?

Are people glossing over the part where I said that I haven't played it and that they're free to not like it if they want?

 

[Tanis]

I just hope it does well enough for a sequel - which I think if given the chance to make from the bottom up Gearbox could make a fantastic DN game.

You mean 12 years is not enough time?

Considering Gearbox got the game after years of 'abuse' by the original developers I'd say they did a fairly decent job.

What GB SHOULD have done was use the DN universe and built a game from the ground up...but they didn't.

 

[UnSub]

My major gripe is the sniper rifle...... What?! Duke Nukem doesn't need a fucking sniper rifle! Sniper rifles are for pussies, Duke Nukem would never use that thing, he'd get right in the middle of the action and blow shit up with middle and close range weapons.

The real Duke Nukem didn't need 3D. And he had to get close to the enemies because otherwise they'd go off the side of the screen and he couldn't see them any more.

Also: Aye. Gearbox appeared happiest releasing information that would generate controversy and relying on how Duke was such an 'extreme' character, which is usually a warning sign that the game itself is not that good.

 

[Gentleman_Reptile]

OP is just trying to do Yahtzee's shtick here. Uninteresting, erudition plagued by a lack of owning one's own personality. You're drawing your opinionated statements and harsh rhetoric from Yahtzee, and you've not displayed any original level of thought.

Stick to watching videos done by professionals and go back to playing Call of Duty. You've not got much of a valid opinion, and a game like that is more at your level.

So anyone who thrashes a game in an extended text whilst throwing in a few jokes is automatically trying to ape Yahtzee?

And based on this amazingly deep insight, I must automatically like Call of Duty because Call of Duty is the cool new thing to hate now because its dumb and stupid and herpy derpy herp derp?

Yahtzee isn't king of the universe as you might think, not everyone who hates things hates them just to try and polish his balls.

In fact, why dont you do a forum topic search for "I think I'm officially sick of Yahtzee". I made it just a few days ago because I'm getting SICK of his style.

Jesus christ I seriously cannot put into words everything that is wrong with what you have just said.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

The funniest part of this entire thing will be if FOX doesn't even bother to mention it.
Because it sucks so hard that nobody really cares, and thus doesn't stir controversy.

If Duke Nukem can't get conservative activists pissed off then DUKE IS DEAD.

 

[Rad Party God]

Amazingly well written review. I haven't played the full game, but God I was so fucking dissapointed by the demo. And you're right, the (small) driving part of the demo is so fucking broken, I had to retry like 3 times, because I jumped in what I belived to be the right path, and then again, because I didn't used the boost.

And the 2 weapons... 2. Fuckng. Weapons. I'm glad I didn't spent any money in this game, I only got the demo access because I already had Borderlands in my Steam account, wich is, by miles, a much, much better game.

This game belongs to 2002, or 2006 at the very least. And still be entirely crushed by BioShock and anything released at that time that's a thousand times better.

Heck, even the '96 Duke still is a lot much better than this.

 

[funguy2121]

I feel like Cassandra about now. I was one of the ones telling y'all not to buy into the manufactured nostalgia. The earlier games were shit as well. Duke 3D was just another Doom clone, but with (poorly drawn, pixelated) tits and stolen Evil Dead lines.

Now if I tell everyone who has only seen pictures of the new Nintendo controller to calm down and look up some reviews by people who have actually used it, will you listen?

No?

This has only served as flamebait?

Oh well.

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Oh my God, Bethesda is totally working on Rise of the Triad HD! That game let you shoot two pistols at once, just like Harvey Keitel in Reservoir Dogs. I'm pre-ordering my copy today!

 

[TimeLord]

It's scoring 80s on Metacritic.

Games journalism is in a bad, bad way.

£100 says Gamespot give it a perfect score.

OT: Well since Play.com somehow screwed with my pre-order, I didn't get the Duke today. Here's hoping for tomorrow.

 

[robinkom]

Sounds like this will be one of those instances for me where "it's so bad, it's good." I mean that in the sense of anything ridiculously wrong with it, I will trumpet into some ironic humor to keep it fun for me.

Were they not charging the full $60 for this at retail, I would use my typical argument about the graphics which is "If it looks better than a PSone game, you have no right to complain." But if you wanted a more detailed and visually stimulating game, you would have had to wait through ANOTHER engine change and complete redesign. What you got was a game that looked "good enough" for current visuals and was mostly finished.

Here's what you have to realize, prior to Gearbox finishing it, 3D Realms was working on this release build at snail speed because of such a small development team and very limited resources. Now imagine a publisher expecting you to pump out a AAA title with less than half the necessary team and a fraction of the typical budget. Not to mention that George Broussard was putting his own money into keeping it afloat.

If you followed the ups and downs of 3D Realms as well as their lawsuit with Take-Two, you'd understand there was no way this could have ended up as a finely polished, intricate game after 12 years. If you have to complain about the basic gameplay mechanics of a Duke Nukem game, then it's just not for you. Regardless of Gearbox's crazy hype, you have to really adopt a mindset that will allow you to fully realize how old the conception of this game is.

Look at it this way, DNF is finally over with, now Gearbox can move on and create a brand-new experience with all the bells and whistles you're looking for.

 

[DaHero]

You bought the console version? Oh boy.... You know the console versions of PC games are always inferior, why even bother?

The PC version is allright, I'm pretty disappointed too though, since it's too much like a modern shhoter, and not old school. I guess old school shooters don't work on consoles, and consoles are simply too big a market to ignore.

My major gripe is the sniper rifle...... What?! Duke Nukem doesn't need a fucking sniper rifle! Sniper rifles are for pussies, Duke Nukem would never use that thing, he'd get right in the middle of the action and blow shit up with middle and close range weapons.

The moral of this story: modern shooters suck and never buy console FPSs.

Oh for the love of god, take your fucking PC elitism and shove it up your butthole.

It's not elitism when it's cold hard fact. In console words: Mods, umad?

Look at it this way, Serious Sam is coming out. Sam is what the hopefuls have been wanting. Heck they even take a punch at Duke by saying "No cover, all man"