Review: Golden Sun: Dark Dawn

DalekJaas

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I really want to play this but the horrible DS 3d is putting me off, and all the characters look so... JRPG, which I don't like. Eh im living in the past but I preferred the top down of the last games in cut scenes. I just hate that all the characters look so JRPG, especially the beast people race. They look stupid.
 

Tonimata

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Brainst0rm said:
Tonimata said:
...Not surprised that a sequel turns out to be bad, but extremely disappointed that this one turned out to be. I mean, Golden Sun 2 was aces, so why couldn't this one be?

I am being rhetorical, yes.
If you've played the others in the series and enjoyed them, you'll like this one as well - you'll like it quite a lot, I'd wager. Susan's review is from the perspective of a new-comer who does not appear to be very fond of JRPGs anyway. Don't take her review too seriously. Everything we loved about the first two games is in here as well :)
Including the incredibly interesting and moving story and deep characters?
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Gvaz said:
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I've recently re-discovered SMT, so I'm busy with Devil Survivor and Strange Journey. But after that, Golden Sun is still right at the top.
Next on your list should be Nine Hours Nine Persons Nine Doors. Also Hotel Dusk 1 & 2
In the US, so Hotel Dusk 2 is a no-go.

999 is going to drop in price quickly, as it's a non-Nintendo DS game that isn't shovelware.
Dude, DS is region free, import it, I promise you won't be disappointed
 

Susan Arendt

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Brainst0rm said:
Tonimata said:
...Not surprised that a sequel turns out to be bad, but extremely disappointed that this one turned out to be. I mean, Golden Sun 2 was aces, so why couldn't this one be?

I am being rhetorical, yes.
If you've played the others in the series and enjoyed them, you'll like this one as well - you'll like it quite a lot, I'd wager. Susan's review is from the perspective of a new-comer who does not appear to be very fond of JRPGs anyway. Don't take her review too seriously. Everything we loved about the first two games is in here as well :)
I played both of the two previous games and happen to love JRPGs. Even if I were new to the series, however, my review would stand. It's simply too easy, and the writing isn't good enough to stand up to the enormous amount of text you have to get through.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Brainst0rm said:
Tonimata said:
...Not surprised that a sequel turns out to be bad, but extremely disappointed that this one turned out to be. I mean, Golden Sun 2 was aces, so why couldn't this one be?

I am being rhetorical, yes.
If you've played the others in the series and enjoyed them, you'll like this one as well - you'll like it quite a lot, I'd wager. Susan's review is from the perspective of a new-comer who does not appear to be very fond of JRPGs anyway. Don't take her review too seriously. Everything we loved about the first two games is in here as well :)
I played both of the two previous games and happen to love JRPGs. Even if I were new to the series, however, my review would stand. It's simply too easy, and the writing isn't good enough to stand up to the enormous amount of text you have to get through.
Oh. Ermmm... I'll just crawl back into my corner, then.

Okay, I agree with all of the points you make - writing is sub-par, which is a fatal flaw in a JRPG, and it's definitely easier than the originals. The step down in difficulty is a relief to me, as in retrospect I'd say the original was too hard. But I can take the writing at face-value, appreciate the intent, and enjoy the game for all the other aspects that make it so fun. Professionally, I guess I understand why you can't do that.

I'm also still wondering where all these children came from. Did all of the original female characters die in child-birth or something? Plus, who did IVAN marry? I gotta know. I had a major man-crush on him back in the day... I don't want spoilers, I guess, just want to know if it ever comes out.
 

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Brainst0rm said:
I'm also still wondering where all these children came from. Did all of the original female characters die in child-birth or something? Plus, who did IVAN marry? I gotta know. I had a major man-crush on him back in the day... I don't want spoilers, I guess, just want to know if it ever comes out.
I was wondering the exact same thing.

It's like the children just came from nowhere.
 

Aurgelmir

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Golden Sun was my first ever GBA game, and I loved it. I also love how The second game turns the first game upside down. A very good series, but I doubt I will get this, mainly because of the million of other games I want to play these days. (WoW being one of them)
 

Susan Arendt

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Brainst0rm said:
Susan Arendt said:
Brainst0rm said:
Tonimata said:
...Not surprised that a sequel turns out to be bad, but extremely disappointed that this one turned out to be. I mean, Golden Sun 2 was aces, so why couldn't this one be?

I am being rhetorical, yes.
If you've played the others in the series and enjoyed them, you'll like this one as well - you'll like it quite a lot, I'd wager. Susan's review is from the perspective of a new-comer who does not appear to be very fond of JRPGs anyway. Don't take her review too seriously. Everything we loved about the first two games is in here as well :)
I played both of the two previous games and happen to love JRPGs. Even if I were new to the series, however, my review would stand. It's simply too easy, and the writing isn't good enough to stand up to the enormous amount of text you have to get through.
Oh. Ermmm... I'll just crawl back into my corner, then.

Okay, I agree with all of the points you make - writing is sub-par, which is a fatal flaw in a JRPG, and it's definitely easier than the originals. The step down in difficulty is a relief to me, as in retrospect I'd say the original was too hard. But I can take the writing at face-value, appreciate the intent, and enjoy the game for all the other aspects that make it so fun. Professionally, I guess I understand why you can't do that.

I'm also still wondering where all these children came from. Did all of the original female characters die in child-birth or something? Plus, who did IVAN marry? I gotta know. I had a major man-crush on him back in the day... I don't want spoilers, I guess, just want to know if it ever comes out.
A 3 is hardly a kiss of death, you know. :)
 

Timmehexas

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Not the best game ever but a great way to pass time while on the train to work. My biggest gripe with it would have to be that some of the "puzzles" were simply abstract things (e.g a statue of a lions head) that had no outside indicators of the type of ability needed to activate it, so they just put a stone next to it which basically says USE FIRE. That's not a puzzle that's a needlessly over complicated switch.
 

wulfy42

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Susan Arendt said:
Brainst0rm said:
Tonimata said:
...Not surprised that a sequel turns out to be bad, but extremely disappointed that this one turned out to be. I mean, Golden Sun 2 was aces, so why couldn't this one be?

I am being rhetorical, yes.
If you've played the others in the series and enjoyed them, you'll like this one as well - you'll like it quite a lot, I'd wager. Susan's review is from the perspective of a new-comer who does not appear to be very fond of JRPGs anyway. Don't take her review too seriously. Everything we loved about the first two games is in here as well :)
I played both of the two previous games and happen to love JRPGs. Even if I were new to the series, however, my review would stand. It's simply too easy, and the writing isn't good enough to stand up to the enormous amount of text you have to get through.

Yeah, thats not exactly fair to Susan. She has reviewed many other games in positive ways and her remarks on this game have nothing to do really with being a fan of JRPGs or not. In fact a newcomer might enjoy it more since the lack of difficult would not be such a huge deal. Playing Arc Rise Fantasia and then playing this is kinda a huge letdown. I think her review was fairly positive over all (mentioning the better points of the game). I think she is right about it being a decent JRPG but that it could be far far better. I just recently played Arc Rise Fantasia for instance and the comparison between the two is pretty harsh.

If I was going to write a review I would compare this game to ARF because it is similar in many ways. The djin system is very close to the orb system and the combat system is similar as well (but slightly better in ARF in my opinion).

The main difference to me was difficulty. ARF requires you to actually use strategy, the magic system etc to play through it without dying alot...this is especially nice for those of us who have played JRPGs for years. GS:DD is similar in many ways (different system of course but still Nintendo) but lacks greatly in difficulty...meaning that long term JRPG fans may be let down a bit. Susan communicated this in a positive way (more so probably then I would). Most of the reviews for the game have been positive but I think most of the reviewers didn't just play ARF right before this game.

Still worth getting I think, but I wouldn't suggest playing it right after a game with alot of difficulty. Might be good to play at the same time if you get frustrated with dying though lol. I know a friend of mine died like 30+ times to a boss in ARF before I helped him hehe.
 

Kazaazz

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I thought Susan would rate this game a little more positively to be honest, but I can see the bad points. It's FFXIII all over again because there's no one to act as Mr Exposition.

Nevertheless, because I played and thoroughly enjoyed the first two games I think I'll play this one anyway. I'll just hang on to the reciept.