Review: Zero Punctuation

ultimatechance

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I have been a long time viewer of Zero Punctuation. I started viewing his videos since he was on youtube, and have continued to watch every single episode on the Escapist. That being said, I have found that as a reviewer, he has enough issues to the point where I consider Zero Punctuation as a great comedy series, rather than the serious reviewing show that many of his fans take it for. So here I will be trying to do something that I am not sure is commonly done or not, but I will be reviewing a reviewer.

To begin, I will address his comedy style. This is easily the best part of Zero punctuation, which is successful due to three main things. The first two are of course his art style, and his rapid fire talking. The simple drawings that he uses to portray the games he review are great and accurate, as well as the pure random nature of some of the images being hilarious. Things like using a fan to represent a, well um... fanboy, or a fish with a knife to represent the sacrificing of story for better gameplay is also very funny. Then there is also the recurring gag of him just placing text as he talks very fast, and often replacing words with the word's respective image (probably from quick google searches). The pop-culture jokes he uses are also never stupid, like Lindsay Lohan or Chris Crocker, instead witty ones like Oscar Schindler for Liam Neeson, and the Monolith from 2001 to represent what needs to run Crysis. As for the third major point, I for one truly admire how he can take the logic from a video game, smartass on it, and then make hilarious jokes out of it, like when he questions how a steam powered turret from Bioshock can possibly differentiate friend or foe with boiled water. With jokes like this being consistently funny and relevant in most episodes, it remains to be some of the best parts of Zero punctuation.

As for the actual reviews on the games, this is where Zero Punctuation has its problems. With this in mind, there are several things that I believe constrict the quality of a good review. Not only is he forced to play the game, review it, then draw, write, record, and edit an episode every single week, but he has to make it appeal to his A.D.D. riddled fanbase, who will simply laugh at his accent, and only consider the review as "great" if it is funny. That being said, im not saying that to all of his fans, but it is certainly true to an extent of many of his mindless fans, who will worship the words that come out of his mouth. But anyways, this brings out the issue of humor overshadowing his take on the game itself, especially with his reviews being at the short limit of only 4 minutes. Me having done video reviews before, 4 minutes is a very short time to produce a detailed, yet funny review, so this damages a lot of what he has to say. So seeing how the time he puts into making a review is short, how long can he really play the actual game? This leads to the first flaw in his reviews, where he often over generalizes games. While I know many of you will take offense to me saying this, but I can tell that Yahtzee has a sense of biased opinion whenever he plays games of certain genres, such as SSBB, or Soul Calibur, where fighting games just are not his thing. And yes, I know that some people just don't like certain games, but the reviewer should at least give it a fair chance, and not say things like throwing your controller down a bunch of stairs is the best way to win.

Another issue I have with ZP is how critical Yahtzee is. He has said it himself, that praising a game is not nearly as entertaining as him making fun of it, as the Psychonauts review shows. I often think that Yahtzee simply criticizes the game just so he can make it entertaining, while leaving out the areas that he thought were good. For example, the Bioshock review has him talking about how it is one of the best games of the year for the first 10 seconds or so, then proceeds to talk about its "shitiness" immediately after. Im guessing that he feels the same way of other games too, but he simply cannot say it in the review, due to the fact that it is harder to make a joke about. This is why I find that reviews such as that and Far Cry 2 are some of the better ones, where he talks about how the game has its strong points, then proceeds to criticize. As for what he criticizes, he does it very well even without humor. He can easily pinpoint the many problems of a game, and is able to ignore all of the major review outlets' opinions. Easily the game that I admire him the most for doing this in is Fable 2, which nailed almost all of the reasons why I also thought it was one of the most overrated games of the year.

When everything is all said and done, the key to watching Zero Punctuation is to fully understand it. As Yahtzee said before, just because he spends the majority of the review making jokes about the game, does not mean he does not like it. Many of the idiot fanboys want to know if it is good or not, and is hence why many people also get pissed off about his opinion. There are things I disagree about, like how reviewing online is part of the full game, or that the amount of dialogue in Mass Effect was great for character development, and was easily skippable if that was not what you liked. What was I saying again? Oh yeah, while I can disagree with him on several points, Yahtzee does what he does for the lulz. Or at least as far as I am concerned. A proper review should hit up a good balance of detail in the good and bad points, something Yahtzee does not have time to do, and neither what people like him for. He is funny because of the way he can humorously criticize a game no matter how much he likes it, and is famous because he is funny. This is why I consider some of his fanbase to be retarded because despite the fact that he criticizes a game that he likes, many of his mindless viewers interpret the game as bad, and then end up not trying it out. On a final and probably debatable note from the people that read this, I consider Zero Punctuation as a satirical gaming show, being a series that I have found to be more entertaining when I have actually played the games and can relate too. Not enough time is spent on properly detailing the game, where much more time is spent on hilarious criticism, which is why leaving your choice to get a game should be put on a more serious review, rather than one that spends more time on jokes. I really say that in no offense, because if imagined how Zero Punctuation would be like if it were to be more of a fair reviewing series, would you really still watch it? Watch his videos amd laugh, that's all there is too it. If you listen to his videos to the way he interprets them, you might be missing out on some games YOU MIGHT LIKE, so dont be a mindless idiot.

Keep doing your thing Yahtzee, Zero Punctuation is great the way it is.
 

Yensid

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I think you hit the core when people have to understand it's not really a review show. There are some games he absolutely hated that I love. I still laugh at the comments and jokes. Really good writeup there.
 

TheBlueRabbit

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Excellent first post. And in a review no less! ZP's what brought me TO this site when they were doing previews on X-Play. Posts like this are what kept me here.
 

RAWKSTAR

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Great review! I agree with more or less everything! Fantastic first post aswell :D
 

Powerman88

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First off great post! I would like to play devil's advocate to it, however.

I think that most of us, including myself, have a very narrow idea of what a "review" is. I have been a subscriber to Game Informer magazine since before the xbox and gamecube debuted, and before that was a GamePro subscriber for many years. My point is I am very accustomed to the tradition idea of an essay style game review (and I love them and think that sometimes I enjoy reading about games more than playing them).

Yahtzee has a very pessimistic style of "reviewing" games; he loves to mix humor and criticism and sometimes he may go off on a tangent but you can always get an idea for how he feels about the game play and general concept of the game. There is a lot of content, but instead of being purely about the games merits and or faults he makes it about his thoughts and experiences playing the game. I would argue his reviews are simply more subjective rather than a report.

He has a different style. Aside from that great post!
 

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A verey nice first post, welcome to the Escapist.

Anyway you made a nice review, but I don't think manny people see it as a review. In his fallout 3 review for example he said you can level up when awake, a joke that in Oblivion you need to sleep in a bed before you can learn new things. But you won't get the joke unless you've played Oblivion and fallout 3.

He's a critic who gives his impression, its still a review but a diffrent kind and not to be taken as a buyers guide unless you want to see what's bad in a game.
 

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Powerman88 said:
I think that most of us, including myself, have a very narrow idea of what a "review" is.

There is a lot of content, but instead of being purely about the games merits and or faults he makes it about his thoughts and experiences playing the game. I would argue his reviews are simply more subjective rather than a report.
Agreed.

There's definite utility in the traditional format of games journalism. When I read a GameSpot or IGN review, I know they will provide a plot summary, the relevant technical specs, and comment on the overall performance and functionality of a game, but these guidelines tend to give reviews a fill-in-the-blanks quality to them. Story? Check. Graphics? Check. Gameplay? Check. The problem is that sometimes what we write into those templates is incidental to the qualities that shaped our opinion about the game. With Yahtzee's approach, he gives himself permission to talk about what he wants to say and ignore what he considers irrelevant. This is highly subjective and an alert reader should acknowledge this and adjust his interpretation of the review accordingly. But at the same time, this information is just as useful as the descriptive review. I can think of plenty situations where reviewer "A" has spent several paragraphs describing a game's combat system and when I finish reading, I still can't answer the question "does that sound like fun to you?" And chances are pretty good that I won't know how I feel about a game until I play it. Yahtzee, either through laziness or genuine insight, seems to understand that his impression of a game has more value than his description of it.
 

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Nicely done. I'd give you a good score, but "I don't believe in them since I don't believe that a complex opinion can be represented numerically".
 

ultimatechance

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@Powerman & Roblike

Yes, i highly agree that his reviewing style is different. But i think it has gotten to the point where his videos lean much more to the hilaious yet relevant satire, that the details part are left to a minimal, where he would give his opinion on only a couple points. And to roblike, i highly agree that pro-reviewing sites need to spend more time with their opinion, rather than saying "Oh yeah, theres a lot of detail in the gameplay features", without explaining if its even worth our time. Yahtzee covers that, but even when it gets to that, whats more entertaining? Spending a good minute that there are fun platforming elements in Tomb Raider Underworld? Or spending a minute making fun of her suprisingly scary obsession with killing everything?

@Templar

Maybe im a little delusional, but when i check the comments for most of the reviews, I commonly see comments that thank Yahtzee for his opinion, or say something like "wow, i was looking forward to it, i guess i shouldnt spend my money", even though the review is not meant to hate it. Im more of a lurker on the forums here, so i might be wrong.

Thanks for the feedback guys, i really like this site and plan to stay.
 

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I too, agree with most of what you said.

I like Yahtzee's reviews because they're not like most other reviews. In most other reviews they talk about how "great" the game is. Focusing on stuff, IMO, is mostly unimportant like Graphics and Physics engines (IMO). Yahtzee talks about the stuff that bring the game down because most of the time games are wayyyyyy overhyped. Example, Halo 3. Everyone knows how overyhyped Halo 3 was right? I think yahtzee's review brought it down to the earthly level it deserves. I don't dislike Halo 3 but his review reveals the more realistic of how good the game really is as compared to the smoke and mirrors provided by other reviewers and commercials that false advertise. Also, he doesn't give one of those meaningless scores. Halo 3 got 5/5s and high 9-point-somethings out of ten and Yahtzee, not having a number, challenges those reviews by saying Halo is not bad, but is average.

Good review on yahtzee, especially for a first post.
 

ultimatechance

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TOO S0BER said:
I too, agree with most of what you said.

I like Yahtzee's reviews because they're not like most other reviews. In most other reviews they talk about how "great" the game is. Focusing on stuff, IMO, is mostly unimportant like Graphics and Physics engines (IMO). Yahtzee talks about the stuff that bring the game down because most of the time games are wayyyyyy overhyped. Example, Halo 3. Everyone knows how overyhyped Halo 3 was right? I think yahtzee's review brought it down to the earthly level it deserves. I don't dislike Halo 3 but his review reveals the more realistic of how good the game really is as compared to the smoke and mirrors provided by other reviewers and commercials that false advertise. Also, he doesn't give one of those meaningless scores. Halo 3 got 5/5s and high 9-point-somethings out of ten and Yahtzee, not having a number, challenges those reviews by saying Halo is not bad, but is average.

Good review on yahtzee, especially for a first post.

yea, one of yahtzee's best attributes as a reviewer is that he is untouched by the general reviewing consensus. Hence why i enjoy many user reviews, and i just happened to stumble upon the user base of this site quite recently.
 

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Danzorz said:
chuckman1 said:
I wish I'd joined earlier so I could have got the ZP Badge.
That is beyond off topic....

Anyway, I do agree with most of your points, but I have to say yathzee should stop and go back to his roots, I am sure newclassic made a rant about this, lemme' see If I can dig it up.
hmm, you mean when he talked more about the game than joking about it? Thats what im thinking, unless youre thinking of something else.
 

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I think everything he does is great. I've yet to be mad about any of his reviews, and because I have never given much credit to any reviews, instead choosing to trust in my own good intuition, I don't think I ever will be offended by anything he has to say.
 

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Danzorz said:
ultimatechance said:
Danzorz said:
chuckman1 said:
I wish I'd joined earlier so I could have got the ZP Badge.
That is beyond off topic....

Anyway, I do agree with most of your points, but I have to say yathzee should stop and go back to his roots, I am sure newclassic made a rant about this, lemme' see If I can dig it up.
hmm, you mean when he talked more about the game than joking about it? Thats what im thinking, unless youre thinking of something else.
Yep, when he talked about the game was the best time, mainly because...well...It was a review, instead of a damn rant.
true, but he's known for being completely "ramblomatic". In the old days, he was still generally unfair to the games he reviewed, and still did it for laughter, rather than giving an in-depth opinion. Asking for him to talk more of the actual game's details would honestly break down the material that he has to work with, when it comes to him making jokes. Hence why the big segment of him talking about how homicidal Lara Croft is, is an insanely funny and good point on Lara, despite it having nothing to do with the games gameplay. If you take Zero Punctuation for what it is, it will be a good fun time. If you want some serious reviews that you can trust your decision on whether to buy a game, there are several sites, as well as some of the really good user reviews here, that arent constricted on an insanely difficult to meet quota to make quality videos, without much help from staff.