Ridley Scott Thinks Current Cinema is Bad, Hates Superhero Movies

[CaptainMarvelous]

I mean Mad Max is pretty damn silly.

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Mad Max, the original, wasn't silly at all (well, not intentionally); nor was Road Warrior, except maybe when it came to characters' costumes (and the names of the gangs under Humungus' control).

Can't really argue that it became silly, though, starting with Thunderdome and falling into straight self-parody territory with that 2015... thing.

This is very much a 'your mileage may vary' situation, but I always found the first one to be pretty silly if just for how it presented this bizarre post apocalypse version of Death Wish in Australia. It's a matter of personal taste ofc, so I can't really argue that it is for definite. Unlike Thunderdrome.

I just thought I'd point out while those movies ARE awesome, there are quite a few which are also pretty silly in a mild defence of Superhero movies (which are ALSO silly but the ones that embrace it tend to be a lot better than the ones who don't)

 

[Pseudonym]

He's right, though his films aren't all that great either if you ask me.

I've seen Alien and Prometheus and GI Jane of the guy. Alien was one of the few horror movies I could stomach. I mostly liked the design of the ship they were on. The plot itself was ok. Though like most horror films I found it a little cheap to have the alien and everything the aliens did to be superlatively cruel, unstoppable, etc for no good reason other than that it is a horror film. Prometheus was utter garbage. GI Jane was passable but rather cringy.

As for superhero movies. Once I realised that the avengers was what people who look at that consider good or even great, I stopped watching them alltogether. I remember liking the batman (the dark knight) films in the 2000's. What I hear about Marvel these days, they seem to be the biggest player in that market. They have all kinds of expanded universes, extra sequels, prequels, superhero teams, reboots, vs-stories and similar poison. The entire inspiration for doing such things is reliable money. If you had actual inspiration or some sort of idea, you'd make something unique and interesting. Sometimes there is an interesting idea. Like the Hulk who is unwillingly a threath to everyone around him. But if there was just one Hulk movie that did it right that'd be enough. I certainly don't see the advantage of having him fight boring aliens in a tagteam battle.

 

[Rangaman]

Ridley Scott Thinks Current Cinema is Bad

Ridley Scott is right. Have you seen the tripe that's currently playing? The best film I've in cinemas recently was Rogue One, and even that was a 6/10 at best. Granted Scott isn't exactly squeaky clean in this area, Exodus was about as entertaining as watching dogshit ferment on a hot summer's day, but his point still stands.

I can understand why he hates superhero movies, they don't really do anything for cinema. They are just mindless entertainment, but I'd argue that sometimes mindless entertainment is a good thing. Besides, The Dark Knight is one of the best films ever made by my standards.

 

[Chewster]

I don't know how to feel about Scott.

On the one hand, two of the most iconic sci fi films of the second half of this century (Alien and Blade Runner in case you were wondering).

On the other, everything else that wasn't Matchstick Men or The Martian (and possibly Gladiator).

I'm interested to see how Alien: Covenant works as a sequel to Prometheus because Prometheus was such a disappointing mixed-bag. We'll see I guess.

Oh also, grumpy, old, out-of-touch, kind of hack director is grumpy etc.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

I can't take superheroes seriously either. The whole concept is just silly

it's unfortunate how many of them are released when before we had action movies like Die Hard, Indiana Jones, True Lies, Terminator, Aliens, Mad Max, Leon, Speed, Lethal Weapon, The Rock, Hard Boiled, Rambo, Predator, Nikita, Bad Boys, etc.

To each their own bro but if silliness is your issue, do you not think quite a few of these should be relegated? I mean Mad Max is pretty damn silly. Speed is pretty damn silly. HARD BOILED has a dude throwing babies out a window to get rescued and sliding down a bannister while dual wielding pistols.

I mean... just saying...

I can take those more seriously than a strangely altruistic vigilante with a double identity and superpowers dressing up in tights to fight cartoony supervillains and the general scum of the city while believing he's the hero the world needs. They're shite characters, especially in movies. The last one I watched was Iron Man 2, years ago, which wasn't fun at all.

See, that description right there sums up quite a few of those movies you mentioned if you exclude the colourful costume. Only without the benefit of owning to the characters weird resilience by way of super powers.

Mad Max in particular is a vigilante alter ego of a cop called Max who fights less than well rounded villains as a vigilante because he believes he's the hero the world needs.

You're entitled to your opinion of course but right now it kinda sounds less like you dont like them because their "shite characters" (which I strongly disagree with but not really what we're discussing) and more that you object to colours.