Rockstar Uses Actual Gang Members for GTA V Voice Acting

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GoaThief

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ticklefist said:
At least the guys at Volition get it. We just want to blow shit up with a panda bear tank.
Who's this collective "we" you are referring to?

Also claiming that Rockstar employees endorse and even commit murders to get where they are is one of the most out there comments I've ever read on this website. Especially when simultaneously singing the praises of Saints Row.
 

Gordon_4_v1legacy

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Maiev Shadowsong said:
Yeah, no.

I'd rather drug pushing pimps and thugs don't get paid out of my pocket. I'd rather they end up in prison (something I am happy to pay for) and rethink their life. Many a person lives in poverty and claws out of it without holding up cashiers or selling women into sexual slavery.

Gang members can get fucked.
When people get sent to prison in Australia, it's occasionally referred to as 'being sent to college'. Mainly because by and large, the only thing people learn in prison is how to be better criminals. Of course there are about a million different factors in this equation as there is for anything but just locking a person up and calling them naughty is a pretty poor way to fix the problem. If Rockstar hiring these guys for a couple of hours makes one of them try and quit the life; then I consider it a win.

I understand a desire to punish criminals, after all they have done wrong, but you need to temper it with programs or initiatives to give them some life skills so that despite their background they can get a job to live on. The punishment begins and ends at the prison gate.
 

SeldomSeenKid

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Maiev Shadowsong said:
maddawg IAJI said:
You do a lot of crime sympathizing and not much else. If for some reason you can't find any work at all, you eat out of the bin, beg for money and find home where you can. What you don't do is steal, sell drugs and murder people. You act like it's suddenly not so bad that these people are gang members because they might have it rough. No. Living on a dollar or less a day is entirely possible (and done by many millions of people). It's difficult and as close to rock bottom as it probably gets. But it's 100% possible. If you turn to crime, you are a weak coward.

Okay, show me how. How do you live on a dollar a day? I mean, holding down a house isn't going to be possible with that sort of money, and if you're homeless in a gangland area then good luck surviving without joining one group or another pretty damn quickly.
 

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Maiev Shadowsong said:
You do a lot of crime sympathizing and not much else. If for some reason you can't find any work at all, you eat out of the bin, beg for money and find home where you can. What you don't do is steal, sell drugs and murder people. You act like it's suddenly not so bad that these people are gang members because they might have it rough. No. Living on a dollar or less a day is entirely possible (and done by many millions of people). It's difficult and as close to rock bottom as it probably gets. But it's 100% possible. If you turn to crime, you are a weak coward.
Okay, show me how. How do you live on a dollar a day? I mean, holding down a house isn't going to be possible with that sort of money, and if you're homeless in a gangland area then good luck surviving without joining one group or another pretty damn quickly.
 

Korolev

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They're doing this to be controversial. There is no need to get "real" gang members. There are enough documentaries and films and shows about gangsters for the writers to know what they would say and for the voice actors to mimic. Are they saying that the "voice of the gangs" is impossible to imitate? Then they aren't hiring the right actors. A good enough actor can mimic any background.

What's next? "For our next game, which features Russian Soldiers, we travelled to Russia to get real Russian Soldiers to record lines for us!" "Our next game has prostitutes - we tracked down some real prostitutes and got them to do voice acting!"

Their argument makes no sense at all.
 

Korolev

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Gordon_4 said:
Maiev Shadowsong said:
Yeah, no.

I'd rather drug pushing pimps and thugs don't get paid out of my pocket. I'd rather they end up in prison (something I am happy to pay for) and rethink their life. Many a person lives in poverty and claws out of it without holding up cashiers or selling women into sexual slavery.

Gang members can get fucked.
When people get sent to prison in Australia, it's occasionally referred to as 'being sent to college'. Mainly because by and large, the only thing people learn in prison is how to be better criminals. Of course there are about a million different factors in this equation as there is for anything but just locking a person up and calling them naughty is a pretty poor way to fix the problem. If Rockstar hiring these guys for a couple of hours makes one of them try and quit the life; then I consider it a win.

I understand a desire to punish criminals, after all they have done wrong, but you need to temper it with programs or initiatives to give them some life skills so that despite their background they can get a job to live on. The punishment begins and ends at the prison gate.
I agree with you to some extent - reform should be a goal for some prisoners who are young and want reform. However, some don't want to reform. Some can't be reformed. Locking people up may not "help them" but it keeps them off the street. Sure, they'll have to be let out one day, but while they are in jail they can't commit crimes. Also, give them a long enough jail sentence, and they'll be old by the time they come out and probably not up to being in a gang (hard to be in a street gang when you're, what, 60 years old).

In the US, Crime rates are going down. They are - they're at their lowest since the 1950s and dropping all the time. One of the reasons why - hard jail time. Give a criminal 30 years in prison, and they are going to be off the street for 30 years, not committing crime for 30 years. The hard jail sentences being handed down in the US aren't helping the criminals and they are probably too harsh - but they get results. Crime is dropping, and its dropping because they're simply taking them off the street and locking them up for decade upon decade.

It's not the way I'd do it. For one, it costs way too much. It places too much power in the hands of the correctional facility. It's inhumane. But it's a solution that works, if all you care about is the reduction in crime stats. Which is what the politicians care about.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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I kind of like this though. Make them work for their money rather than, I dunno, gang it away. Maybe there's a future in that. In any case I'm mostly amused by the decision and would love to hear some of these "authentic" recordings.
 

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Psychobabble said:
Sigh. Great. So Rockstar continues to support the fall of Western Civilization. Why does this not surprise me.
Simply hilarious. Because employing gangsters to do honest, paid work - when they could be out robbing houses - is supporting crime and degeneracy.

To the contrary, it is these sorts of asinine statements that we should be worried about.