tha flame bait in this post.... must resistaguspal said:As usual, I didnt even heard about it.
Thats my care level. LOL.
EDIT: Oh its a game from the Total Shit... I mean Total War series... ya... I tried that game once. Didnt exactly liked it. Moving on...
I think most Total War fans also liked them, its just most think they're bad in comparison to the previous titlesdemoman_chaos said:Seems I am one of the few that really enjoyed Shogun 2 and Empire.
Go ahead and try, bee-atch! Hmmm... Lex Albina, or Lex Booa ¬_¬ ... *snrk* Besides, you tribunes are useless idiots, while I'm Pontifex Maximus (from 150), Princeps Senatus (from 147) and former Censor. Now run along and go cry to your daddy Cato...(!) =Palbino boo said:The only thing I can say to that is Carthago delenda est, you lily livered fool. I shall stand as tribune and pass laws removing you from command.
Hmmm... *wonders if I should get roped into debate about Carthage's military system* ... -_-BlazeRaider said:Seems excellent to me, I can't wait to bring honour and respect back to the true rulers of the mediterranean: Carthage!
Well, unfortunately not... as far as I can tell, you're just playing as Rome (so... dark red) but can choose to be the head of one of the gentes maiores (Cornelii, Junii and Julii).UrinalDook said:Can't wait to don the Brutii green again and open a can of well drilled, professional whoopass all over the Grecian states in jaw dropping HD.
have you played shogun 2? If not, don't rag on it, I own and have played every total war game, hell I even own some of them on steam and as hardcopies.Hammeroj said:It may have been way better than the original Shogun, but that may have something to do with the fact that it's the very first game in the series with no iterative process as far as the gameplay goes being done to speak of.DoomyMcDoom said:I find it funny how much shogun hate there is, I loved the first shogun total war, y'know, the first total war game ever, and in my opinion shogun 2 was the same thing but WAY better. I'm stoked for Rome 2 because I did quite like the first Rome total war.
Also if you complain about the "scope" of shogun being small, and haven't played it, you're in no position to make that comment, sure the map isn't the world, but when you compare how long it takes to move your units, and the number of provinces and the amount of overall time it takes to complete the campaign to empires, or to the original Rome, you find that it's pretty damn close if not longer(at least compared to empires, because that game I picked up and beat in an afternoon, shogun took 2 days), and the co-op/competitive campaign play in it, made it incredibly replay-able.
Dude, it's fine that you like Shogun 2, it really is, but making up nonsense excuses is not the way to go. Shogun 2 is set in one country. One relatively small country with next to no variety in units and no variety in architecture between the different countries; as opposed to something like Rome or Medieval which take place over something like the entirety of Europe (or more), feature completely different settlements and armies and all of that. The fact that it takes a long time to move your units in Shogun 2 has next to nothing with the sense of scale. Even if one hasn't played the game, I'm not sure I grasp why exactly it's unfair or untrue to regard this as having a far, far smaller scale than some of the previous Total War games.
OT: Just rewatched that Carthage siege demo, and it seems to have about the same mechanics in terms of combat as Shogun 2 had. One unit picks another, they lock in and everybody else who's near and could attack either of the two units just stands around doing nothing. I know this is pre-alpha footage, but somehow I doubt that's going to go away in the full release.
spartandude said:tha flame bait in this post.... must resistaguspal said:As usual, I didnt even heard about it.
Thats my care level. LOL.
EDIT: Oh its a game from the Total Shit... I mean Total War series... ya... I tried that game once. Didnt exactly liked it. Moving on...
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I guess im look forward to it, although the Total War series is going down hill imo, although i did reply Shogun 2 recently and it was better than i remembered so maybe im just going crazy. and i hope to god they fix the diplomatic AI, or atleast have a some what good one this time around
How dare you insult the Albina family we where priests of Jupiter at the sanctuary in the Alban hill why you poxy Cornelians were being told which end of pig was which by Etruscan kings. Look at my snazzy red boots. My tribunes will veto any land settlements for your drunken rabble of an army.SckizoBoy said:Go ahead and try, bee-atch! Hmmm... Lex Albina, or Lex Booa ¬_¬ ... *snrk* Besides, you tribunes are useless idiots, while I'm Pontifex Maximus (from 150), Princeps Senatus (from 147) and former Censor. Now run along and go cry to your daddy Cato...(!) =Palbino boo said:The only thing I can say to that is Carthago delenda est, you lily livered fool. I shall stand as tribune and pass laws removing you from command.
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Fighting is for peasants, I'll just pay the unwashed masses to fight for meSckizoBoy said:Hmmm... *wonders if I should get roped into debate about Carthage's military system* ... -_-
In the second Punic war that is exactly what Rome did, largely because Hannibal had killed everyone else. After Cannae, Rome dropped the property qualification to join the army, due to the lack of qualified manpower.BlazeRaider said:Fighting is for peasants, I'll just pay the unwashed masses to fight for meSckizoBoy said:Hmmm... *wonders if I should get roped into debate about Carthage's military system* ... -_-![]()
Just trying to put into perspective, that my understanding of scale isn't limited to just one total war game, and trying to point out that from my position, the scale of it, albeit not global FEELS huge even when compared to other games in the same series that are supposed to be bigger, but end up feeling the same size or smaller than they make JUST JAPAN feel in shogun 2, but maybe my implications of such an idea, might not have gotten past your aggression shield, as you seem to have turned a statement made by me, into an argument against you.Hammeroj said:What does you owning the games have to do with anything, exactly? I asked why the criticisms about the scale of the game are unfair or untrue, and what whether someone owns the game or not has to do with the truth of it, I couldn't give less of a crap what you own.DoomyMcDoom said:have you played shogun 2? If not, don't rag on it, I own and have played every total war game, hell I even own some of them on steam and as hardcopies.
I'm just trying to point out that a scenario which I have observed countless times which falls into "Dude stabs a guy due to open opportunity, cuz battle" rather than "Honourable fight between two warriors times 1000" in itself goes against the perception that 10 guys will beat hundreds in that game so unfairly due to it all being a series of one on one battles, and thus having broken mechanics for large scale battles, just saying.Good for you. Your "backstab" scenario says nothing about the underlying game mechanics.Also the number of times I've seen the units line up only to be backstabbed by some dude with a spear in shogun 2 defies counting, so it's not all just one v one, or battles would take a lot longer to play out when the numbers are stacked unevenly.