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Lunar Templar

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why, yes

the Movie is called Payback, staring Mel Gibson (before he lost his shit)

and the bad guy wins in the end to :D
 

Ignatz_Zwakh

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Right now Imma reading "A Darkness at Sethanon" by Raymond E. Feist. Honestly, I'm eagerly awaiting the demise of one of the main characters. It bothers me how utterly untouchable they seem in the face of all the danger they're subjected to.
I mean, it's a solid and entertaining read, but I don't ever feel as though the heroes are genuinely under threat. Sure, plenty of supporting characters and nameless good guy soldiers have perished, but that's about it. Whereas the bad guys die in flippin' droves! It's a tad unbalanced and the drama suffers a bit for it, I find.
 

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I rooted for the bad guys in a couple of books because they were usually just communist-ish people who wanted to be left alone. They ended up portrayed as the bad guys pretty much only because the writer definitely leaned to the right politically.

Well, I mean, one of the guys in the group goes a little insane, but aside from that, I sympathized with them.
 

Lunar Templar

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Soushi said:
All i have to say to this is:


SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON!!!!
you know >.> i almost ALWAYS end up siding with the colonies, in any incarnation of Gundam, since they generally have ... ya know ... the right to be pissed off at the earth forces for being jerks for what amounts to 'we're on earth and your not'
 

Dan Steele

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The Helghast of the killzone universe. The ISA is boring, generic, and not fun to play as. The Helghast (In killzone 2 at least) had great motives, interesting command figures, and a great back story.
 

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I don't know if this is the same thing as what you're talking about, but I always root for the lions and cheetahs when I watch the Discovery channel and Oasis HD... :)
 

Soushi

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Kitsuna10060 said:
Soushi said:
All i have to say to this is:


SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON!!!!
you know >.> i almost ALWAYS end up siding with the colonies, in any incarnation of Gundam, since they generally have ... ya know ... the right to be pissed off at the earth forces for being jerks for what amounts to 'we're on earth and your not'
I agree totally, although Zeon is about as close to 'bad guys' as you get, except for maybe Vagan, but Vagan kinda have a really legitimate grievance and are acting as one would imagine most humans would in their place. Zeon is definitely the coolest though, especially in the later incarnations of the series like Unicorn of Stardust Memory. The Geara Doga, the Kashatriya, the Efreet Schneids, how could one not cheer for a side like that.

Personally my favorite gundam 'bad guys' has to be ZAFT. They were clearly made out to be the bad guys in the beginning of seed, but by the end they were really looking a lot better. Frig, with the way the Earth Forces were acting, I would have fired Genesis at the bastards myself! Reap on ye genetic reaper men.
 

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Secret Window - John Shooter
The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Frank-N-Furter
The Dark Knight - The Joker
Portal - GLaDOS
Mario - Bowser
Law Abiding Citizen - Clyde Shelton
Death Note - Light
Avatar - Humans
Tom and Jerry - Tom
Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner - Coyote

Just some of the bad guys I wanted to win. Not all of them did I want to out right win. Take the Joker I just wanted him to at least get away.
 

launchpadmcqwak

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when i watched Platoon and saw all the yanks raping,shooting and caving in the skulls of civilians, that when the black guy (forgot his name) got bayoneted i thought "ya know what?, i think he had that coming. And then all the soldiers started dying and i finished that movie felling rather conflicted.
 

Lunar Templar

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Soushi said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
Soushi said:
All i have to say to this is:


SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON!!!!
you know >.> i almost ALWAYS end up siding with the colonies, in any incarnation of Gundam, since they generally have ... ya know ... the right to be pissed off at the earth forces for being jerks for what amounts to 'we're on earth and your not'
I agree totally, although Zeon is about as close to 'bad guys' as you get, except for maybe Vagan, but Vagan kinda have a really legitimate grievance and are acting as one would imagine most humans would in their place. Zeon is definitely the coolest though, especially in the later incarnations of the series like Unicorn of Stardust Memory. The Geara Doga, the Kashatriya, the Efreet Schneids, how could one not cheer for a side like that.

Personally my favorite gundam 'bad guys' has to be ZAFT. They were clearly made out to be the bad guys in the beginning of seed, but by the end they were really looking a lot better. Frig, with the way the Earth Forces were acting, I would have fired Genesis at the bastards myself! Reap on ye genetic reaper men.
the second i figured out the earth VS plants war was really a race war, i threw my hat in with the plants, hell by what was it, ep 3, you had reasons to doubt how on the up the earth forces where, then they started with that 'for the preservation of our blue and pure world' bit, -.- yeah ... fuck you earth force, fuck you
 

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Wanted Tom to eat Jerry once
Wanted Slyvester to eat Tweety once
Wanted Wile E. Coyote to devour the fucking Road-Runner
Wanted the humans to win just to make something interesting happen in Avatar
Wanted James to kill Bella and Edward in Twilight just for something different
Wanted Ichigo to get his ass handed to him in Bleach season 2

Usually, I root for the hero unless the hero is either too cliche, too annoying, or just too lucky.
 

Olrod

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Whenever the "heroes" are holding the idiot ball [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdiotBall], I want the bad guys to win just because F**K YOU, heroes.
 

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Smertnik said:
Shredder was my hero <3 He had ninjas and robots and whatnot, how could you not root for him?

DaKiller said:
Does Tom and Jerry count? because I just wanted to see Tom get that little fucker for once.
I hated the mouse. I mean, Tom was just mostly minding his own business while the rodent did everything he could to get him into trouble. At some point I became so annoyed with the show that I just stopped watching it altogether.
Yeah, Tom and Jerry is awful. Certainly a reason to root for the bad guy.
 

FalloutJack

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Did I ever? OF COURSE! Look at me!

*Pause*

Okay, you can't see me. But if you COULD...you would notice the entirely fiendish glare I'm giving you.

Heh, and why...? Villains have STYLE. Well, most villains who deserve to be called them. Obviously, Kefka is trying too hard to be the Joker while dressing worse than Colin Baker and Elton John combined. But TAKE the Joker, for instance. We LOVE this guy. We love Mark Hamill for voicing him and for both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger for BEING him.

What's a hero without a villain anyway? We need our archtypes, dammit, or there is no arch!
 

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I am pretty big on competence and proffessionalism. Not the sort of 'hey look I can kill fifteen guys with my knife before one hits the ground' nonsense, but someone who looks at the task at hand and gets on with it. Treadstone from the Bourne films fits for the most part, the Jackal from the origonal Forsyth novel and Lucas from Spooks.

These are people who do not try to justify thier actions, they just pick a goal and complete it. These are men after my own heart.
 

Kilroy17

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Magneto definitely. His motives as a villain are so much more than the being bad for plot convenience or something boring like greed, he's about the survival of a race, after being mistreated and outcast by humans.