Rumor: PC Features Cut From Dragon Age 2
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Yes, but apperently there is more money to be made in the console buisness, why else would they do this?Delusibeta said:
It's not like BioWare/EA went "Oh you know what, I think we make too much money, less decrease our income, YAY!". Besides, talking about handhelds here is useless sence we are talking about Console VS PC, BioWare hasn't annouced a Mass Effect handheld (yet) so seeing how that is a diffrent part of the buisness that has nothing to do here.
But anyway, it doesn't matter, EA has skilled people at their economy department so I am sure they are doing what's best for their wallet, that is not to say that it is the best for the game quality tough.
well i hated using hte tactical view anyways, i always scrolled into the 4rd persion view, so no loss for me on that part, but i mean modding? they better fix that, thats 90% the reason why i buy it on pc, otherwise im inclined to just buy it for xbox
Answer: Mod support isn't going to appear on consoles, so why bother with it at all? The top-down view is only useful if the combat is actually designed around it.aarontg said:
In other words- the PC is getting a half-assed port of very, very consolized Dragon Age 2.
GIANT FUCKING SIGH
My attention has now officially shifted to the Fallout series. Farewell Dragon Age, I hardly knew thee.
My attention has now officially shifted to the Fallout series. Farewell Dragon Age, I hardly knew thee.
Did you play the game on PC?dannymc18 said:
Personally, the unique origin stories (the gimmick of DAO), the aerial camera (which as the article said allowed for really good tactical play), and the mods (which is a PC mainstay) were the most important parts for me.
Otherwise it was kind of a generic game.
So yes, I am upset.
If the graphical powers aren't amazing, and the sound isn't amazing I wouldn't care (hell, tuning down the minimum specs might be a good idea), but those three are so important I can't even describe.
And guess what, they plan on taking out not one, not two, but all three of them.
What? No Wii? Forget that vault.MiracleOfSound said:
And meh. I never like Dragon Age to begin with.
If 1 good thing MUST come out of this (I say this with raw optimism combined with the fact it's BIoware) then they'll fix the somewhat clunky "We obviously mapped a 50 buttons plus control scheme to a controller with exactly 2 analog sticks, a D-Pad, and 11 buttons (one of which doesn't count)", they improve the button mapping and make spell-casters bearable in the console versions of Dragon Age 2!
I blame EA for this sudden change of tune, Bioware has been a predominately PC developer from the get go!
I blame EA for this sudden change of tune, Bioware has been a predominately PC developer from the get go!
Well done, sir. It's good to see he is on our side.WanderingFool said:This desearves something special, something Picard.
4rd person view? I never found that onegmaverick019 said:
OT: Well, there goes every single PC sale, guys. Oh well.
what the heck?Aura Guardian said:
why are you people in my sub basement? did you raid my guiness fridge? and there's no wii because i sold the first aid supplies to buy the mini fridge...and a shortage of flailing space
anyways, this kind of is putting me off buying DA2, there are and will be other games...and when it comes out ill be trying to escape college with a degree
They were having issues with the Wii, there isn't much room to move around in the Vault. Kinect isn't going to be in it either.Aura Guardian said:
Bioware is slipping hard. From all this bullshit, to their simplification of ME2 to their INSANE pushing of overtly shitty DLC they just aren't the company they used to be.
So long, Bioware! I hope you enjoy your new home in the den of EA corruption.
So long, Bioware! I hope you enjoy your new home in the den of EA corruption.
Just a few points addressing some issues in the thread:
1. Bioware, or more accurately it's parent firm EA, is publicly-traded, i.e. primary fiduciary duties are to shareholders. Bioware's Executives and Board of Directors are legally bound to make decisions that are in the interest of aforementioned shareholders (increasing profits), no matter how slim the margin. I'm a PC-only gamer, but I understand that console gaming has a demonstrably higher ROI than PC gaming and given the huge cost of game production nowadays... In the Dragon Age series, however, production costs are spread over many platforms and begrudging us PC gamers of a tactical overview seems almost stingy.
2. Let's be honest, there is a certain amount of PC elitism. Personally, I think this is because many PC gamers, in frustration or whatever, conflate the dumbing down of the genres we know and love (yes, this has happened) with the console gamers who play them. This is unfair and, frankly, fucking retarded on our parts. Console interfaces are not very accommodating to gameplay relying on grand strategies (Starcraft, Supreme Commander, etc) and tactical decision-making in rpgs (Baldurs Gate, Planescape, Icewind Dale, etc). I can't even recall the amount of time I wasted creating and recreating the perfect Icewind Dale 2 party, with my little math formulae and other such bullshit. On the other hand, the only thing that got me through Mass Effect 2 was the amusing characters, and that just barely. I have rarely played an "rpg" with gameplay so inane, linear and mentally undemanding. However, it would be logically fallacious to state that gamers that love ME2 are therefore dumber than I am.
3. Finally, I am picking up a recriminating tone from many of the posters here regarding PC piracy. Yes, it exists in vast numbers ($'s lost), but fingers are being wagged at the wrong people. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the majority of Escapist visitors/posters are from North America, the Commonwealth nations, and Western Europe. Countries in these groups have the lowest rate of piracy according to a 2009 BSA/IDC (note: study includes all types of PC software including games). Surprisingly, my country, the US, has the lowest rate at 20% (makes sense when including corporate software purchases). New Zealand, Australia, the UK, Germany are all in this lower bracket. Though you silly Canadians are pushing it at 29%, and to my friends in France don't you think 40% is a bit high? On the other hand, Ukraine has 85% of all software as pirated, China has 79%, Russia is up there as well. Though the study abstract I have doesn't specify the breakdown of these numbers by software type, generalizing here, I worked in China for a year and have seen internet cafes with over 600 PC's, all of them running pirated games (actually the only legally installed games were the ones made in China). PC game piracy in the US is almost certainly higher than 20%, but game developers throw out numbers like 80% which are just based on anecdotal evidence. Until we get clearer numbers/studies, lets not conclude that the PC gamers visiting this site brought this upon themselves.
1. Bioware, or more accurately it's parent firm EA, is publicly-traded, i.e. primary fiduciary duties are to shareholders. Bioware's Executives and Board of Directors are legally bound to make decisions that are in the interest of aforementioned shareholders (increasing profits), no matter how slim the margin. I'm a PC-only gamer, but I understand that console gaming has a demonstrably higher ROI than PC gaming and given the huge cost of game production nowadays... In the Dragon Age series, however, production costs are spread over many platforms and begrudging us PC gamers of a tactical overview seems almost stingy.
2. Let's be honest, there is a certain amount of PC elitism. Personally, I think this is because many PC gamers, in frustration or whatever, conflate the dumbing down of the genres we know and love (yes, this has happened) with the console gamers who play them. This is unfair and, frankly, fucking retarded on our parts. Console interfaces are not very accommodating to gameplay relying on grand strategies (Starcraft, Supreme Commander, etc) and tactical decision-making in rpgs (Baldurs Gate, Planescape, Icewind Dale, etc). I can't even recall the amount of time I wasted creating and recreating the perfect Icewind Dale 2 party, with my little math formulae and other such bullshit. On the other hand, the only thing that got me through Mass Effect 2 was the amusing characters, and that just barely. I have rarely played an "rpg" with gameplay so inane, linear and mentally undemanding. However, it would be logically fallacious to state that gamers that love ME2 are therefore dumber than I am.
3. Finally, I am picking up a recriminating tone from many of the posters here regarding PC piracy. Yes, it exists in vast numbers ($'s lost), but fingers are being wagged at the wrong people. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the majority of Escapist visitors/posters are from North America, the Commonwealth nations, and Western Europe. Countries in these groups have the lowest rate of piracy according to a 2009 BSA/IDC (note: study includes all types of PC software including games). Surprisingly, my country, the US, has the lowest rate at 20% (makes sense when including corporate software purchases). New Zealand, Australia, the UK, Germany are all in this lower bracket. Though you silly Canadians are pushing it at 29%, and to my friends in France don't you think 40% is a bit high? On the other hand, Ukraine has 85% of all software as pirated, China has 79%, Russia is up there as well. Though the study abstract I have doesn't specify the breakdown of these numbers by software type, generalizing here, I worked in China for a year and have seen internet cafes with over 600 PC's, all of them running pirated games (actually the only legally installed games were the ones made in China). PC game piracy in the US is almost certainly higher than 20%, but game developers throw out numbers like 80% which are just based on anecdotal evidence. Until we get clearer numbers/studies, lets not conclude that the PC gamers visiting this site brought this upon themselves.
NO TOOLSET?
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F*ck this, I loved using it. My character would look like an abomination without a proper character creator.
Even though I have ultimate trust in Bioware (I started worshiping them after Mass Effect 2 came out) and I will buy Dragon Age 2 on PC, they sounded like greedy bastards in this article.
F*ck this, I loved using it. My character would look like an abomination without a proper character creator.
Even though I have ultimate trust in Bioware (I started worshiping them after Mass Effect 2 came out) and I will buy Dragon Age 2 on PC, they sounded like greedy bastards in this article.
Can anyone enter, or is it invite only? Otherwise I'll be heading to my top secret bunker...MiracleOfSound said:
