Rumor: Wii U CPU Twice as Beefy As Xbox 360
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If the Wii U will be the only console to come out this year (if it even DOES come out), then I'll consider buying it. Until then, this year's a mystery.
Why do I get the feeling that this anonymous source is basically saying, "This apple is twice as powerful as that orange?" And I'm not referring to anything related to Steve Jobs.
I agree with you, I've always loved Nintendo's games and I've never really cared about graphics at all. As long as they keep making fun games and don't let the graphics distract from the gameplay I don't care how powerful their new system is. I'm excited about the WiiU, I can't wait until it comes out.LilithSlave said:
... That being said; it doesn't really matter too much to me right now because I couldn't afford it anyway. So I'll probably have to wait a whole before I can get it even when it does come out. T-T
Hear hear, Mr. Omega, with one caveat. More powerful hardware is not the best way to great games. However, I would argue that the best way to great games is indeed through better hardware. It is designing better hardware architecture that makes games easier to make.Mr. Omega said:
The reason the best games for any given console come out towards the end of its lifespan are because it takes devs that long just to figure the damn things out. If you (hypothetically) made a console that devs could learn to take full advantage of in a single development cycle, you would see deeper, more interesting games on the whole because the devs can focus on creating content and fine-tuning game mechanics rather than figuring out how the damn system works.
Sadly, since Nintendo has been loading all of its recent consoles down with gimmicks that tend to do the exact opposite of this, I imagine the Wii(on)U will be just about as successful as the 3DS. Sad.
Well that's very optimistic.DanDeFool said:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/3ds-sales-top-4-million-in-us-6348126
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/333417/japan-3ds-continues-to-dominate-sales/
http://www.1up.com/news/3ds-takes-8-months-surpass-first-year-ds-sales
Seriously, the rest of the point is valid, and there's little argument, but the "3DS is failing" is a complete BS point.
Mostly been taking the chance to catch up on the DS backlog that's accumulated since the last time I had a DS (Ghost Trick was a particularly fun game), but I got Mario 3D Land, I rented StarFox 3D, and am waiting for Kid Icarus Uprising, the upcoming Fire Emblem game and MGS3D.DanDeFool said:
There are also some good downloadable games like Mighty Switch Force and 10 Second Runner.
Eh, it's Nintendo. It could be two wooden sticks and a 30 year old TV and people would buy it as if their lives depended on it. A unhealthy mix of fanboyism with an enormous amount of Goodwill built up as the leading player on the Video game market.
You cant reference CPU in the title, but then not talk about it during the article. Did this developer say the CPU or Wii U was 2 times as powerful? As if we are talking about the CPU being 'only' two times more powerful, you are neglecting other areas of importance such as the GPU. If the GPU is, for example, 10 times more powerful than the 360's GPU then that would make up for shortcomings and would put the Wii U in the same range as the 720's supposed specs.
The Wii was roughly twice as powerful as the Gamecube and look where that got them. Twice as powerful is not enough. Remember, even though the 360 has HD output, everything is upscaled. The console itself can not do everything in 1080p. COD4 runs at a resolution of 600p. Halo 3 at 1152×640. Its going to take more than twice the power to hit HD properly. Especially when spoiled by the ways of PC Gaming and proper high resolutions.
Breaking news: Next gen console to be more powerful than current gen console.
Well done Nintendo.
But Microsoft have already released details that the new Xbox will be <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115471-Rumor-360-Successors-GPU-and-Release-Date-Detailed>six times as powerful as the current 360, so what you've effectively done there is say that the new Wii will be just as underpowered next gen as it is this gen.
*claps*
Well done Nintendo.
But Microsoft have already released details that the new Xbox will be <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115471-Rumor-360-Successors-GPU-and-Release-Date-Detailed>six times as powerful as the current 360, so what you've effectively done there is say that the new Wii will be just as underpowered next gen as it is this gen.
*claps*
It can be ten times more powerful and it wouldn't matter. Gotta have matching software able to take full advantage of it's resources- like Epic did with GoW3. They're pulling every last pixel out of the Xbox 360's hardware. It's about as optimized as you can get.
Okay, that's good, but this is kind of the problem I have with Nintendo these days. You'll notice that all the games you mentioned, with the exception of MGS, are first-party games. This is also something I noticed browsing the Amazon listings for the 3DS, mostly first-party developed/published.Mr. Omega said:
Pretty much the only reason to buy a Nintendo console, ever since the N64, was because you want to play games that are developed/published by Nintendo. Good third-party support is something the Nintendo consoles just don't get these days (with the exception of the DS, of course), and I would argue it's largely because of the gimmicks.
Third party devs have to bust their asses just to get games out the door, and forcing them to use motion controls or 3D effects, or (for fuck's sake) making the second analog stick OPTIONAL just adds uncertainty to an already difficult process.
You're absolutely right (and I was wrong) that the sales figures are great and the high-quality first-party titles will probably do a lot to make the 3DS stick, but to me, having a variety of developers putting out a variety of games makes a console much more worthwhile to own (which is why I own two different PS2s). I imagine the Wii U will suffer from the same problem.
In other words, Commercial success =/= Good console.
If you ask me Nintendo making the Wii U is a "Dollar Short and a Day Late" and by a day late I mean the beginning of the N64 where Nintendo gone down hill. Yes Nintendo was dead to me before Golden Eye had a chance to get out of the gate.
Hearing now that the Wii U (still awful name by the way) has twice the hardware power of the Xbox 360 is like SNK releasing a new console that could compare to the new gen systems only to run only there usual 16 bit era titles. All for what a HD picture?
The Xbox 360 came out 2005? It is now 2012! Shouldn't we have a Wii U that is at least 4 or 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360, a Wii U that could put the Xbox 360 in a headlock and give it wedges.
CPU, GPU who cares, twice as powerful as a Xbox 360 when the Wii U hit will be nothing when Sony and Microsoft unveils there next console that will remind us how much the Game Cube and Wii sucked in the performance category.
Hearing now that the Wii U (still awful name by the way) has twice the hardware power of the Xbox 360 is like SNK releasing a new console that could compare to the new gen systems only to run only there usual 16 bit era titles. All for what a HD picture?
I think this person said it the best.GreatTeacherCAW said:
The Xbox 360 came out 2005? It is now 2012! Shouldn't we have a Wii U that is at least 4 or 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360, a Wii U that could put the Xbox 360 in a headlock and give it wedges.
CPU, GPU who cares, twice as powerful as a Xbox 360 when the Wii U hit will be nothing when Sony and Microsoft unveils there next console that will remind us how much the Game Cube and Wii sucked in the performance category.