Rush Limbaugh Defends Video Game Free Speech

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Czargent Sane said:
Break said:
Sir John the Net Knight said:
Ooo, Cat Stevens. Did you know he's sends money to radical islamic groups and is on the DHS terror watch list? He doesn't even call himself Cat Stevens any more, he calls himself Yusef Islam. I know that's when I make a rally to restore sanity, the first thing I try to do is find the most batshit insane person in the world and send him an invite.
...You mean that time in 2004 when he was denied entry to the US over what was most likely a coincidental similarity of his name? At least, that's the only Cat Stevens-related terrorism controversy I can remember off the top of my head... Is there something else that you're referring to?

Moreover, I can't say I'm especially pleased with the way you use the mere fact that he happened to convert to Islam, and took an Islamic name, as evidence that he's "batshit insane".
what about the part where he said "sends money to radical islamic goups"? could that be the reason he doesnt like him? I dont know if that fact is right or wrong, but that might be the "evidence" you're looking for.
That was related to the part where he wasn't allowed in to the US. There were some follow-up investigations into whether he may have donated money to Hamas, but nothing substantial came of it. Hell, even if he had been placed on the no-fly list intentionally at some point, the simple fact that he was able to show up at the rally suggests that Knight's use of the present tense was incorrect.

I mean, I'm not saying that the guy's not crazy. He's a musician, after all. Musicians are crazy.
 

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Break said:
Czargent Sane said:
Break said:
Sir John the Net Knight said:
Ooo, Cat Stevens. Did you know he's sends money to radical islamic groups and is on the DHS terror watch list? He doesn't even call himself Cat Stevens any more, he calls himself Yusef Islam. I know that's when I make a rally to restore sanity, the first thing I try to do is find the most batshit insane person in the world and send him an invite.
...You mean that time in 2004 when he was denied entry to the US over what was most likely a coincidental similarity of his name? At least, that's the only Cat Stevens-related terrorism controversy I can remember off the top of my head... Is there something else that you're referring to?

Moreover, I can't say I'm especially pleased with the way you use the mere fact that he happened to convert to Islam, and took an Islamic name, as evidence that he's "batshit insane".
what about the part where he said "sends money to radical islamic goups"? could that be the reason he doesnt like him? I dont know if that fact is right or wrong, but that might be the "evidence" you're looking for.
That was related to the part where he wasn't allowed in to the US. There were some follow-up investigations into whether he may have donated money to Hamas, but nothing substantial came of it. Hell, even if he had been placed on the no-fly list intentionally at some point, the simple fact that he was able to show up at the rally suggests that Knight's use of the present tense was incorrect.

I mean, I'm not saying that the guy's not crazy. He's a musician, after all. Musicians are crazy.
all I'm saying is that knight was probably referring to the suspected extremism rather than the fact that he is a muslim when he said he was insane.
 

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Beastialman said:
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Composer said:
any ally is a good ally.
I wouldn't really say that. What if we had a leader of a terrorist organization saying video games are good?
Is this a new spin on Godwin's Law? Bin Laden instead of Hitler?
Oh so terrorist organization must be run by middle easterns now?
I most definitely did NOT say that! My entire point was that suggesting a moral equivalency between Rush Limbaugh and the leader of a terrorist organization is no less dishonest and no less intellectually lazy than comparing them to Hitler.
 

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Amazing how fast and furious this whole thing derailed into arguments over how evil Limbaugh either is or isn't.
 

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Huxleykrcc said:
Anyway, you're missing my point. I think to suggest that there are no centrists Washington is probabilistically silly, not to mention unsupported (I enjoyed your less-than-deft deflection of your own burden of proof, not to mention the attempt to establish some kind of Ethos by insinuating that you know bunches and bunches and political viewpoints. Which, maybe you do, but that's beside the point).
Yeah, I just LOVE unsupported attacks to my integrity. Here's a rule of thumb:

Next time you start talking about proving one's point, make sure to prove your point first instead of trying to diminish the point of view of others with banter, which is the only thing you have offered.

You keep making comments on how I don't substantiate my views, and you do the same, then you say I dodge, while doing the same. And no, naming an 832 page text book without quotations and pages does not count as proof. You might as well divert to the Encyclopaedia Britannica.

I see where this is going.

Huxleykrcc said:
The fact is, it is MORE CENTRIST (not centrist, just MORE CENTRIST) than most of America, on both relevant spectra. Even conjecture suggests this: Any average must be between two extremes in a data set, and politicians purport to have an average view, because that will garner the most votes, and votes are the direct cause of election.
That's, colloquially speaking, bullcrap.

For starters, it assumes the premise that a politician will only reflect the views he actually has, which is total crap. There are too many examples to cite of politicians who reached their constituency by projecting a centrist image and then shifting to the left or right.

Second, it neglects history. The last 40 years alone show obvious ideological patterns in each party. Their voting records in the House and Senate support this. All text books in Political Studies written in the last 20 years reflect these tendencies.

Finally, not only stating that Washington is more centrist than the rest of the population not only is misleading, it is flat out wrong when we consider that more than 57% of the US population considers itself independent and centrist.

Huxleykrcc said:
Incidentally, I never claimed to be objective; if you'll read the end of my last post, you'll notice that I insinuated the opposite. Rather, I argue that it is possible, by codifying views independent of their experimental frequency in the actual population, to make an objective political spectrum. It's an oversimplified one, obviously, but all such spectrums are.
Yup, you didn't claim to be objective, you just acted as if your opinion was the gold standard while trying to demean me and my argument, presenting your own perceived views as superior, well researched and factual, when in reality they are just as riddled with speculation half truths as the best of them.

I'm done. It's obvious you are less interested in debating and completely focused in tooting your own horn. Too bad you're doing it from so high up on your damn horse, we can't hear it anyway.