Russia Begins Censoring Websites

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Shirokurou said:
As a Russian, living in Russia, I'd like to say... Holy dramatization, Batman!

I love how news about a law about censoring child pornography can immediately turn into "internet freedoms censorship" just by adding "in Russia" to it.

Don't believe the hype.
having the means to censor websites is dangerous, it could be abused and may be abused. The point is no man should have that power, the power to decide whos opinion is worth listening too and shutting them down if they don't like it.

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Shirokurou

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Evil Smurf said:
Shirokurou said:
As a Russian, living in Russia, I'd like to say... Holy dramatization, Batman!

I love how news about a law about censoring child pornography can immediately turn into "internet freedoms censorship" just by adding "in Russia" to it.

Don't believe the hype.
having the means to censor websites is dangerous, it could be abused and may be abused. The point is no man should have that power, the power to decide whos opinion is worth listening too and shutting them down if they don't like it.
Censorship always was and will be there for stuff like child porn or suicide guides. Also that Dark Knight still actually was part of Nolan's support for that kind of thing in the name of the greater good.
 

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I don't care, any Russian wants to change countries I'm there ;) Russian modern history "HOLY SHIT! The Berlin Wall fell! Our beloved communism ain't holding it together, dude we're fucked!" after the obliteration of communism: "yeah well, now it's all about the money right? So here's what it's gonna be, we have EVERYTHING you want if you wanna pay for it, and forget about complex laws and whatnot, let's live life and have some fun" :D

If it sounded offensive, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. As a matter of fact I plan to go to Russia with my girlfriend sometime next year (if the world is still around) :) I have this unreasonable totally childish adoration for everything Russia hahaha
 

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Shirokurou said:
Evil Smurf said:
Shirokurou said:
As a Russian, living in Russia, I'd like to say... Holy dramatization, Batman!

I love how news about a law about censoring child pornography can immediately turn into "internet freedoms censorship" just by adding "in Russia" to it.

Don't believe the hype.
having the means to censor websites is dangerous, it could be abused and may be abused. The point is no man should have that power, the power to decide whos opinion is worth listening too and shutting them down if they don't like it.
Censorship always was and will be there for stuff like child porn or suicide guides. Also that Dark Knight still actually was part of Nolan's support for that kind of thing in the name of the greater good.
I'm there with you, I'm all hands to restrain certain freedoms in order to safeguard "greater goods", such as life, dignity, etc. Freedom is a lie, the existence of law restrains us from being free, because human freedom would lead to conflicts that would eventually make it hard to live in society, so we settle for the "fake freedom", which is, basically: imagine a circle surrounding you, within that circle lies everything you can do, which means everything not prohibited by law, even then, however, you cannot forcefully infiltrate someone else's "circle", that would be a restraint of their freedom, and would be a declaration of conflict. The law exists to keep those circles intact and people at "respectful distance" from each other's freedoms...

The Dark Side: the biggest horrors in most totalitarian countries are often perpetrate with LEGAL authority, a total disregard for Natural Law while elevating Positive Law to god-like status, obviously, since the Positive Law only requires a source to make it legal, in those countries that source is the very power-that-be without any (valid) representation of the people. This can lead, as it did in the III Reich and Soviet Union, to an almost absolute inversion of values to satisfy the needs of one single group, that can turn out to be a megalomaniac Führer. Russia nowadays, Putin or no Putin, is NOT a totalitarian country, as a matter of fact, since the III Reich and Soviet Union, totalitarianism has not been heard of; we had many types of dictatorships, but none deserving of said title, the most extreme countries in the middle-east are heavily based on natural law, according to their own religious beliefs and local culture, thus, no totalitarianism there either...
 

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Milanezi said:
I'm there with you, I'm all hands to restrain certain freedoms in order to safeguard "greater goods", such as life, dignity, etc. Freedom is a lie, the existence of law restrains us from being free, because human freedom would lead to conflicts that would eventually make it hard to live in society, so we settle for the "fake freedom", which is, basically: imagine a circle surrounding you, within that circle lies everything you can do, which means everything not prohibited by law, even then, however, you cannot forcefully infiltrate someone else's "circle", that would be a restraint of their freedom, and would be a declaration of conflict. The law exists to keep those circles intact and people at "respectful distance" from each other's freedoms...

The Dark Side: the biggest horrors in most totalitarian countries are often perpetrate with LEGAL authority, a total disregard for Natural Law while elevating Positive Law to god-like status, obviously, since the Positive Law only requires a source to make it legal, in those countries that source is the very power-that-be without any (valid) representation of the people. This can lead, as it did in the III Reich and Soviet Union, to an almost absolute inversion of values to satisfy the needs of one single group, that can turn out to be a megalomaniac Führer. Russia nowadays, Putin or no Putin, is NOT a totalitarian country, as a matter of fact, since the III Reich and Soviet Union, totalitarianism has not been heard of; we had many types of dictatorships, but none deserving of said title, the most extreme countries in the middle-east are heavily based on natural law, according to their own religious beliefs and local culture, thus, no totalitarianism there either...
+1.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also you sound like a law major... i approve.
 

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Shirokurou said:
+1.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also you sound like a law major... i approve.
Lol, I AM a law major, but I don't actually work as a lawyer ;) Thanks anyway.
 

Shirokurou

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Milanezi said:
Shirokurou said:
+1.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also you sound like a law major... i approve.
Lol, I AM a law major, but I don't actually work as a lawyer ;) Thanks anyway.
I'm a law major myself...

Combine Rustler said:
Russia and civil rights don't mix. They'll shut down anything and everything anti-government.
Wow... except all the opposition blogs, twitters and political parties.
Navalny is FAMOUS for his blog... Which is still online... and not banned for a long time.