Russian Nazis...?

[Lukie]

just trying to add a bit of balance to this discussion.

To quote Toy Story, 'You strange, sad little man.' This is the internet. There is no balance. Only porn.
Also, Godwin's Law, look it up.

Hang on a second I have replied to your post curiously and you have insulted me, can you not think of a more intelligent reply?

Yes this is the internet and this is a discussion board to to have discussions on, so yes you can have balance as you to add.

I will look up this Godwins law as I do enjoy reading.

 

[Masterthief]

just trying to add a bit of balance to this discussion.

To quote Toy Story, 'You strange, sad little man.' This is the internet. There is no balance. Only porn.
Also, Godwin's Law, look it up.

Hang on a second I have replied to your post curiously and you have insulted me, can you not think of a more intelligent reply?

Yes this is the internet and this is a discussion board to to have discussions on, so yes you can have balance as you to add.

I will look up this Godwins law as I do enjoy reading.

You have not give my arguments any consideration (most of your replies show either disinterest, lack of research or misunderstanding)
Nazi propaganda was full of messages saying that the Jews were all communists, this was an easy way to transfer anti-Semitism, which was very common, into a hatred of communists, which was less so. Many of Hitler's speeches, especially his earlier ones, focus on this message.
The point that I made about 'lebensraum' was admitting that, yes the Israelis are practising it, but Hitler was not. Hitler was out for European, if not Eurasian or even world, domination, not just 'living space'. The Nazis believed that the Arian race was destined to rule ALL other races. The Zionists (and it IS them, and they ARE a Jewish sect, look them up please) 'just' want a land for the Jews to have as their own where they will be safe. After WWII we gave them what was then Palestine, kicked the Palestinians out, and then got all surprised when they were a little upset. The Israeli occupation of Palestine is not, as far as I can tell, a step towards global domination. It is similar to the German occupations of the 1930's, but the goal is not the same.
And yes, I agree that, if it were any other country, we would probably be at war. But we don't like to admit our mistakes, and so we're not.

I look forward to your counter-point in the hopes that my, it would seem misguided, attempt at humour has not discouraged our discussion.

 

[Trivun]

There are some Neo-Nazi groups in Russia. It was covered on "Ross Kemp on gangs" - I can't remember their motives but they beleive they will take over Russia soon.

I can't believe I got ninja'd that early! I was gonna mention that...

Yeah, I never saw the episode but my brother has the book, so I read about that case in there. Mostly, the neo-Nazis Ross Kemp spoke to in Russia were just youths who were pretty much loners, or didn't really have families or friends or anything, and they just clung to the Nazi ideals, as far as I could make out. They seemed to have decided to prepare for the rise of Nazism again, but they were just a group of youngsters with guns. Not a good thing, obviously, but better than actual Nazis...

 

[Lukie]

just trying to add a bit of balance to this discussion.

To quote Toy Story, 'You strange, sad little man.' This is the internet. There is no balance. Only porn.
Also, Godwin's Law, look it up.

Hang on a second I have replied to your post curiously and you have insulted me, can you not think of a more intelligent reply?

Yes this is the internet and this is a discussion board to to have discussions on, so yes you can have balance as you to add.

I will look up this Godwins law as I do enjoy reading.

You have not give my arguments any consideration (most of your replies show either disinterest, lack of research or misunderstanding)
Nazi propaganda was full of messages saying that the Jews were all communists, this was an easy way to transfer anti-Semitism, which was very common, into a hatred of communists, which was less so. Many of Hitler's speeches, especially his earlier ones, focus on this message.
The point that I made about 'lebensraum' was admitting that, yes the Israelis are practising it, but Hitler was not. Hitler was out for European, if not Eurasian or even world, domination, not just 'living space'. The Nazis believed that the Arian race was destined to rule ALL other races. The Zionists (and it IS them, and they ARE a Jewish sect, look them up please) 'just' want a land for the Jews to have as their own where they will be safe. After WWII we gave them what was then Palestine, kicked the Palestinians out, and then got all surprised when they were a little upset. The Israeli occupation of Palestine is not, as far as I can tell, a step towards global domination. It is similar to the German occupations of the 1930's, but the goal is not the same.
And yes, I agree that, if it were any other country, we would probably be at war. But we don't like to admit our mistakes, and so we're not.

I look forward to your counter-point in the hopes that my, it would seem misguided, attempt at humour has not discouraged our discussion.

It is getting pretty late over this end so I will reply tomorrow if you don't mind? Oh and I am not trying to show disinterest, sorry if that's how I have come across.

 

[Masterthief]

just trying to add a bit of balance to this discussion.

To quote Toy Story, 'You strange, sad little man.' This is the internet. There is no balance. Only porn.
Also, Godwin's Law, look it up.

Hang on a second I have replied to your post curiously and you have insulted me, can you not think of a more intelligent reply?

Yes this is the internet and this is a discussion board to to have discussions on, so yes you can have balance as you to add.

I will look up this Godwins law as I do enjoy reading.

You have not give my arguments any consideration (most of your replies show either disinterest, lack of research or misunderstanding)
Nazi propaganda was full of messages saying that the Jews were all communists, this was an easy way to transfer anti-Semitism, which was very common, into a hatred of communists, which was less so. Many of Hitler's speeches, especially his earlier ones, focus on this message.
The point that I made about 'lebensraum' was admitting that, yes the Israelis are practising it, but Hitler was not. Hitler was out for European, if not Eurasian or even world, domination, not just 'living space'. The Nazis believed that the Arian race was destined to rule ALL other races. The Zionists (and it IS them, and they ARE a Jewish sect, look them up please) 'just' want a land for the Jews to have as their own where they will be safe. After WWII we gave them what was then Palestine, kicked the Palestinians out, and then got all surprised when they were a little upset. The Israeli occupation of Palestine is not, as far as I can tell, a step towards global domination. It is similar to the German occupations of the 1930's, but the goal is not the same.
And yes, I agree that, if it were any other country, we would probably be at war. But we don't like to admit our mistakes, and so we're not.

I look forward to your counter-point in the hopes that my, it would seem misguided, attempt at humour has not discouraged our discussion.

It is getting pretty late over this end so I will reply tomorrow if you don't mind? Oh and I am not trying to show disinterest, sorry if that's how I have come across.

Not at all my dear fellow. I shall continue tomorrow.

 

[VTSK]

Not to mention the Nazi's planned on making the Russians glorified slaves once they beat them.

Well Hitler wanted an alliance with Russia at one point, is communism much different to slavery anyways?

Depends on what you mean by communism. What Russia had wasn't really communism, it was Totalitarianism. If that's what you mean, then no, its not that different.

 

[Doug]

Meh, some people are just bigotted idiots who want to blame all problems on foreigners. The Russian Nazi's do surprise me abit, but we have the BNF who are pretty much Nazi's without the style or (fortunately) the power.

 

[iloveglu]

none of you have any fucking basics in history or any kind of social studys or better yet experience with this type of shit. first things first you have to understand a country dosent breathe, dosent think, dosent feel, people do...and that thing in their heads...you know...the brain gives people weird pointless absurd ideas sometimes which become ideologies which unfortunately most people dont grow out of. a nazi is an extreme german nationalist beacause part of nazi ideology is that only pure blood germans are worthy of rulling the earth bla bla bla, so even though there are bands of so called nazi-skins and such that call themselves the new nazis, neo-nazis, they are morons. sometimes its peer presure, sometimes its the trend, sometimes its just some racist asswipe, the point is they grow into a nationalist or religious idea...(or both)... and they think the best way to solve the problems with the world(well their world specificaly, as in their part of town, country etc) is by protesting against minorities either ethnical or religious minorities. these groups can be found in absolutley every single fucking country in the world, its fucking inevitable... you get brainwashed at some point as a kid by some frustrated football hooligan to become a "nazi" and then you either grow out of it or you get more and more dumbed down. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAR. its about the ideology that hitler had...extreme natonalist, tahts what theyre trying to be. im a cruster and as such have gotten into fights with groups of "nazis" (extreme nationalists) more than once beacause of our anarchism freedom etc ideas which are almost completley opposite from what these morons ideas are and its like that in russia, beacause of extreme violence between antifascists and "nazis" the latter group decided to step it up a notch and started using knives, beating up random people killing etc for a scare...and fear is an edge. its like an urban warfare...a completley pointless urban warfare but ye whatever. and GOURMOURN....WTF seriously, i can see you have no idea what comunism is yourself so no more preaching. the idea of comunism that lenin and trotski put forward was ideal, basicly everyone works together, share, build theyre own household etc, no private stuff etc etc no government etc etc etc NO ONE GETS FUCKING SILENCED! (dumbass) but as soon as the revolution was over (you know...the one with the bolsheviks) elections were to be had for a temporary government that would watch over the development of russia for 3 months, then it would be disolved and things were to be left to the people...as an experiment, unkown to "the people" was that this was to be a test to see if the idea works. but when the elections where held, lenin , who was sure the people would vote for the bolsheviks, was dissapointed as the bolsheviks had the least votes, tus he thought that people dont know whats good for them and that government should control mostly every property and working asset and such "for the peoples own good" bla bla and thus comunism as you retards know it today is a despotic harsh totalitarian shity ideology...which it wasant always, just russia made this version of it so famous after the first world war. and fascism is and always was a totalitarian despotic shity etc etc ideology. for fucks sake it sprang up from the same " for the peoples own good" idea but in a much brutal way, and while comunism wanted to spread its wings to other countrys, fascism is all about youre country..this is the only difference between lenins comunism and mussolinis fascism (and hitlers nazism but hitler was extremely radical so ye), the nationalism, lenins comunism was supposed to be international while fascism was supposed to be confined in a state, italy basicly, but ideas tend to fly to other people all the time so hey there we go now we have juiced-up skinheads thinking theyre german and juiced-up africans screaming "black power". its the most childish thing a grown-up could ever think up. and it worked...which is scary

 

[Jenkins]

This happens is America right, in Orange County? Just maybe not as extreme...

yeah their are alot of skinhead pro-nazi's here in the OC area I know, I live near laguna beach.

fortunately they dont live in the GOOD areas here. some are in my class tho but they are stupid fuckwits

 

[Lavi]

The Soviet Union and Germany were allied to Hitler betrayed Joseph Stalin on 06/22/41 by breaking their pact.The Russians never fought Germany for political views it was about revenge. Plus a good portion of those deaths where from Russians order to kill Russians deserters as in Order No. 270.That's why Soviet Union still try to kill Germans after the war.

Stalin can actually be considered fascist interestingly enough (since true communism cannot be totalitarian). I think much of these problems occur because of his legacy (he was quite racist, and after WWII was done he actually persecuted jews).