Russian Rocket Gets Much-Needed Supplies to International Space Station

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Space is simply not suited for private enterprise at this point. As any other huge breaking-the-limit development in history. Because the very nature of said developments implies fuckhueg investments with fuckhueg risks. It's just plain bad business. Every time private companies tried to pull the weight on big breakthrough-projects on their own - they either were shot down, or taken under the government wing, or brought in billions in net losses and buried their company. Even SpaceX manages to carry on only by being government's little ***** on the old and tried path of delivering stuff up there.

I disagree. Private enterprise is motivated to get out there if for nothing else than the material gains. Opposed to governments which can afford to take it slow. Is it the right way to go in to space? Maybe not. But it will get us there, and that is the objective.

 

[Smooth Operator]

The fuck is wrong with you people... no fucking wonder wars keep happening when an article on international operations make you flip out with your political shit.

Soyuz has been doing this shit since forever, since before there was an international space station, they are the space postal service. Sure might not be the most efficient and high tech piece of equipment, but sometimes you just need a squeaky old van to take some boxes from A to B and if it does so reliably it's still far better then fancy shit that never arrives.

 

[StorkV]

Russia saves the day once more

 

[CrystalShadow]

I read this with the other rocket as follows:


~American made, private Capitalist rocket failed spectacularly while destroying millions of dollars in ISS supplies.

~Russian made, Communist rocket succeeds and sends much-needed supplies to ISS.



Score one for Communism?

Nyeh. More like tried and tested russian design (progress cargo module first used in 1978, Soyuz rocket system in the 1960's).

Vs.

Brand new, still in the tail end of basic testing phase Rocket designed by a private company. (new engines, new rocket, almost entirely consisting of components made by SpaceX itself... This thing is a lot of 'new' all wrapped up together)

The earliest launches typically hold the most surprises. This is spaceX's 17th launch of anything at all, and the 6th of this design of rocket.
These numbers include some very basic things which were done only for testing purposes, and barely really even count as proper launches.

These are not really comparable things regardless of who made them.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Considering how communism is deader than disco in Russia for longer than I live, what?

Technically they're accurate. Given the Soyuz rocket family was developed in the 60s. Though the specific rocket variant used is actually a Soyuz-2.1a, which was post Soviet era ... not a Soyuz like the article says.

(edit) If this article was taken at face value, totally a communist rocket. Probably one of the most successful rocket designs in history. It has good pedigree, given a lot of it was adapted from the highly successful Vostok series rocket family.

 

[Major_Tom]

Ah, the good old R-7. You can't beat that booster separation.

 

[Albino Boo]

Or you never get to hear about the accidents.

There are records of Soyuz accidents - two catastrophes of over a hundred flights, getting it very close safety statistics to another most commonly used spacecraft in history - the shuttles, so I guess it makes sense.

But you are aware that spacecraft launches were not some secret business in the Union - quite the opposite, they were THE biggest media events in the country and were broadcasted live? And that Soyuz is a piloted craft? And that cosmonauts were to the people of Union what the movie stars are for Americans? A TV and radio feed of the launch watched and listened to live by millions and disappearance of huge media figures is not something that can be scraped under a rug. And those catastrophes that did happen were not covered up - it was all over the news and hell, there were memorials erected and streets renamed after the crew members of Soyuz-1 and Soyuz-11 all over the country.

So overall - yep, Soyuz statistic is quite reliable, and it's pretty good overall. Nothing fantastic (shuttles are better by number of launches and worse by number of dead bodies), but pretty good.

Of course, there probably were secret military launches, but those followed other tasks and were launched from other cosmodroms, and used other rockets and other crafts, and it's not like America wasn't doing the same.

Really here's the video, released at the time, of the failure of the first launch of the Trident D5 SLBM

Nasa also publishes the data of all satellite launches, including one with military payloads. Where is the Russian data? Turns out if your country is run by an ex KGB thug that sends people out to use radioactive points for revealing the systemic corruption in the Kremlin, that truth isn't the highest priority.

 

[Albino Boo]

Where is the Russian data? Turns out if your country is run by an ex KGB thug that sends people out to use radioactive points for revealing the systemic corruption in the Kremlin, that truth isn't the highest priority.

Well here's a news cover of a failed Bulava missile launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYVcgwvPGok

I wonder how Mr. Ex-KGB Thug let this one slip. All that news team is probably mining uranium ore now. /sarcasm

I also wonder what one needs to smoke to think that American secret SDI and other military projects launches were public in their time. I wonder how much American public of that time knew about Brilliant Pebbles, Delta Star and other programs that in one way or another violated the Outer Space Treaty.

I also wonder what ICBM tests have to do with demilitarized space exploration programs and Soyuz in particular.

I also don't understand a compulsory desire to slander the government of a country he does not live in, visit or know anything about. If you worry for the security of your own land - go serve in military. We brainwashed sheeple are doing just fine without your revelations, leave us to our due.

Hell, I live in Belarus. While it means a shitton of relatives and friends in Russia - The Ex KGB Thug is not my president.

that truth isn't the highest priority

Truth is never the highest priority for the government. Security is. Just ask NSA.

Shall we ask the family of Boris Nemtsov abou that? Another one of Putin murders. The President of Belarus, I wonder if that's the same Alexander Lukashenko that is under sanctions for human rights abuses and is close of ally the murderous thugs in Moscow?

 

[Level 7 Dragon]

Some good news.

It seems that this threat is turning in to a political argument again. It's important to seperate between the engineers and the politicians in a country.

Then again, people already made up their mind.

 

[PatrickJS]

Some good news this morning: https://twitter.com/Space_Station/status/617591950259040256

 

[Bat Vader]

Where is the Russian data? Turns out if your country is run by an ex KGB thug that sends people out to use radioactive points for revealing the systemic corruption in the Kremlin, that truth isn't the highest priority.

Well here's a news cover of a failed Bulava missile launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYVcgwvPGok

I wonder how Mr. Ex-KGB Thug let this one slip. All that news team is probably mining uranium ore now. /sarcasm

I also wonder what one needs to smoke to think that American secret SDI and other military projects launches were public in their time. I wonder how much American public of that time knew about Brilliant Pebbles, Delta Star and other programs that in one way or another violated the Outer Space Treaty.

I also wonder what ICBM tests have to do with demilitarized space exploration programs and Soyuz in particular.

I also don't understand the compulsory desire to slander the government of a country one does not live in, visit or know anything about. If you worry for the security of your own land - go serve in military. We brainwashed sheeple are doing just fine without your revelations, leave us to our due.

Hell, I live in Belarus. While it means a shitton of relatives and friends in Russia - The Ex KGB Thug is not my president.

that truth isn't the highest priority

Truth is never the highest priority for the government. Security is. Just ask NSA.

Compulsory slander? I didn't realize someone criticizing a government for something they disagree with registered as compulsory slander. I can't respect Russia's government after the BS that they did to Ukraine recently.

 

[lacktheknack]

Thank God the Russians sabotaged the last rocket. We almost didn't need them to get into space anymore.

pls

pls don't

pls don't do this

don't do this

pls

You guys realize I was addressing ALL of you, right?