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i think thats like asking "what do you think of nudity in paintings"
it totally depends why its there
ultimately i have nothing against it, but its not an inherently important issue to me
if its just there, i feel indifferent, although indifference isnt a good thing in art
if the game is making a point about sex, or using sex to make a point, then it should be judged on the quality of its statement like anything else
if its gratuitous or exploitive, then i suppose thats not cool, but who am i to draw a line, not everything thats gratuitous is bad
a good game is good and a bad game is bad and no amount of sex could change either
it totally depends why its there
ultimately i have nothing against it, but its not an inherently important issue to me
if its just there, i feel indifferent, although indifference isnt a good thing in art
if the game is making a point about sex, or using sex to make a point, then it should be judged on the quality of its statement like anything else
if its gratuitous or exploitive, then i suppose thats not cool, but who am i to draw a line, not everything thats gratuitous is bad
a good game is good and a bad game is bad and no amount of sex could change either
I'm sick of it to be quite honest, I don't get why every RPG now has to have an option to fuck your allies when you can't get rid of them either.
I would have loved a chance at dumping Tali out of the airlock of the Normandy.
These "Relationships" are totally one sided in favour of making idiots feel like they have a deeper connection with characters because they exchanged fluids with them.
Make something decent or not at all.
I would have loved a chance at dumping Tali out of the airlock of the Normandy.
These "Relationships" are totally one sided in favour of making idiots feel like they have a deeper connection with characters because they exchanged fluids with them.
Make something decent or not at all.
This is really a very good point. I hope more people read it.Lyri said:
You have options to 'fall in love with' or otherwise 'woo' your teammates, or select teammates, but you can't really 'choose' them. I mean, in some select cases you can to a slight extent, but not really.
The only game I saw where that happened, was Baldur's Gate. You could take or dump your party as you please. Heck, you could have everyone else in your party all attack and kill (permanently) one of your other party members. This on top of romancing a select few.
For a genre that's supposed to promote player choice, it's funny that this option hasn't come up more often. Maybe Mordan or Legion or someone does something I find incredibly offensive, or just annoying, and I want them gone! Can't do it.
Let's leave romancing options alone, and bring in more 'hate your face' options.
The act itself doesn't need to be shoehorned into everything, but discussion of it, can add a little more depth as well as humanize the characters in their universe.
Metal Gear Solid is a fairly odd example in which a sexually hesitant character, Solid Snake, is depicted as cold and unnerving, however there is a irony in that Snake is occasionally implied to be a bisexual.
Metal Gear Solid is a fairly odd example in which a sexually hesitant character, Solid Snake, is depicted as cold and unnerving, however there is a irony in that Snake is occasionally implied to be a bisexual.
Yeah, I totally agree.oplinger said:
Unless it has anything to do with the plot, (which only a rare number of games do) than its just unnecassary, and quite off-putting actually. It practically just breaks the immersion.
Oh the memories, Jaheria wouldn't stop whining about my pandering after Virconia (I think that was the Drows name anyway).Baby Tea said:
Couple of days of that and I told the stuck up elf to deal with it and leave.
RPGs really have taken a turn for the worst when it comes to situations like this, you cannot make any kind of connection with your companions beyond what you already have as standard.
They're part of your crew, well fabulous which one do you want to sleep with?
I don't get to mold a relationship in RPGs now, I get to hear about their life story and apparently that makes me a great guy that people want to sleep with.
There's nothing deep or meaningful in the experience anymore, it's just following a dialogue path the creators have put it.
We need more paths and avenues to explore with our characters and our companions.
[sub]Yes, I did really want dump Tali Vas Annoymondy out of the airlock. Suck it fanboyz.[/sub]
If it serves some kind of plot point, then sure. Most of the time though I think it is just as superfluous as when it shows up in books or movies. It is just there to be there.
While I've only played a few hours of The Witcher 2, I found the scene in the elven ruins between Geralt and Trish (optional scene, I might add), added depth to their character interactions beyond what I was expecting.
Of course, it helps greatly that Trish is way powerful, strikingly independent and often just goes off on her business, rather than tagging along behind Geralt like a puppy whose only purpose is to be the romance subplot.
It may be that the rest of the game devolves into mindless "SEX ME" bits, but I thought that one scene was a good argument for mature games to handle sex in relationships well. It also helped that it was a pre-existing relationship that felt meaningful, as opposed to:
"Hi, I'm your wife, you love me because I said you do, I'm sure I won't be kidnapped/dead/turned into some alien monstrosity a few hours into the game despite having had NO MEANINGFUL INTERACTION WITH YOU AT ALL."
I'm looking at you, Molyneux!
Of course, it helps greatly that Trish is way powerful, strikingly independent and often just goes off on her business, rather than tagging along behind Geralt like a puppy whose only purpose is to be the romance subplot.
It may be that the rest of the game devolves into mindless "SEX ME" bits, but I thought that one scene was a good argument for mature games to handle sex in relationships well. It also helped that it was a pre-existing relationship that felt meaningful, as opposed to:
"Hi, I'm your wife, you love me because I said you do, I'm sure I won't be kidnapped/dead/turned into some alien monstrosity a few hours into the game despite having had NO MEANINGFUL INTERACTION WITH YOU AT ALL."
I'm looking at you, Molyneux!
If it improves the plot, sure put as much fucking in there as you want to. But please, try not to make it completely distasteful.
I'm not sure. How would you call the GoW mini-games with Kratos having fun with some women?Collins254 said:Now i have your attention, what do you think about it in games?
is it unnessecary? should it be removed? is it maybe a nice touch of realism?
If its on an 18 rated game should it be more explixit even?
I personally think its all a bit pointless, other than to get me achievables on the Xbox i dont normally bother with romance/sex in games (though i did the threesome in fable 2 for a laugh and got the achievment on accident)
That was awesome. The movie was great as well, by the way.usmarine4160 said:
OT: I don't mind it in my games as long as it actually adds something to the characters. Just adding completely random sex is unnecessary and can be left out (GoW, most of Witcher), but seeing a short love scene after having developed a relationship with someone (like the one in Mass Effect) is fine.
I think it worked really well in Dragon age origins. I went with Leliana and after that i started using her regularly as part of my squad which totally changed the gameplay (rogues die so very easily). So in anycase the relationship gave Leliana a new depth to her character, changed my way of play and deepened the whole experience for me. Admittedly thats the only example i can think of atm.... But wev all gotta start somewhereTallim said:
Sex is good kept human race ahead of everyone so far. Sex is one of the most important aspects in life, no sex no reproduction no birth. So to ignore the subject entirely would in my opinion be bad. Your argument about when it serves the plot is a good one, but I can't agree. In real life having sex only has real purpose reproduction. Yet it is essential to our culture. Music, paintings, movies, statues etc. We're also intrigued by it as a species sex sells for a reason.
Honestly can you name even one scene, act or chapter where it actually serves the plot to visualise sex in any form of entertainment. Be it movies, books, games or even a painting. It does not, but would black swan be better without the scene? Or terminator for that matter. Ever seen the wall/ceiling painting in old Cathedrals in Europe? Yes the one where the prudish Christians go. They have a lot and by GOD (pun intended) is there a lot of nudity on Christian art.
My point Sex is every where it is part of being human. People have urges and when you are under a lot of stress sex is a good way to release it. Maybe it's because I grew up in a country where sex is generally accepted as being normal.
Now I am not saying go for all out porn in video games. I mean that is absurd besides we've got those already they are as bad as your average porn movie. I would like more artistic nudity in games. With that I also mean go away from the "super models" and show more realistic characters. I mean Kratos is one ugly (...) but people love him, why would a non "perfect" woman be treated any less?
Well that's my honest opinion. Ow well ofcourse we should regulate games better so kids don't see to many boobies. Wouldn't want them to suddenly visit beaches and notice woman can actually sunbath with tops. Well they can here anyhow. They can wear less on a nudist beach ( just for those where thinking I was actually talking about one.)
Honestly can you name even one scene, act or chapter where it actually serves the plot to visualise sex in any form of entertainment. Be it movies, books, games or even a painting. It does not, but would black swan be better without the scene? Or terminator for that matter. Ever seen the wall/ceiling painting in old Cathedrals in Europe? Yes the one where the prudish Christians go. They have a lot and by GOD (pun intended) is there a lot of nudity on Christian art.
My point Sex is every where it is part of being human. People have urges and when you are under a lot of stress sex is a good way to release it. Maybe it's because I grew up in a country where sex is generally accepted as being normal.
Now I am not saying go for all out porn in video games. I mean that is absurd besides we've got those already they are as bad as your average porn movie. I would like more artistic nudity in games. With that I also mean go away from the "super models" and show more realistic characters. I mean Kratos is one ugly (...) but people love him, why would a non "perfect" woman be treated any less?
Well that's my honest opinion. Ow well ofcourse we should regulate games better so kids don't see to many boobies. Wouldn't want them to suddenly visit beaches and notice woman can actually sunbath with tops. Well they can here anyhow. They can wear less on a nudist beach ( just for those where thinking I was actually talking about one.)
