Saints Row IV Could Have Had President Colbert and Dragons

Doom972

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The more I hear about it, the less likely it seems that I would want to play it.
I love the over-the-top story and gameplay of SR3, but this just seems like they're trying too hard.
 

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The SR games lost me. It was a bit to far gone. SR2 had silent moments. Moments that built a bit of character and had a bit of necessary drama in them. SR3 had none of that, it was set to 11 all the time and never let up. Nothing was even remotely considered a threat or able to harm you.

SRIV looks no different. I wish they HAD gotten Colbert as president. That would have at least given you SOME credible opponent or a possible anchor point for a story. Now it just seems that it will be more of SR3 which to me is a big fat pass. A big cobbled together mess of high octane scenes intent on being more ridiculous rather than drawing the player into being more ridiculous and then rewarding them for it like SR2, it's not as fun when the game is IN on you being evil or insane.
 

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If it wasn't for the fact that this is being released right before my birthday so I could just ASK for it, I probably WOULDN'T buy this day 1. Too many uncertainties, how can we be sure this will be full length game quality?
 

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linkblade91 said:
I think I fail to understand the problem:

1. You wanted the player character to be the President.
2. You wanted Stephen Colbert to be the President.

Am I the only one who identified the solution?

The player character is Stephen Colbert.
Or better yet, become a vice president, then comes some disastrous event where Colbert dies an awesome heroic death, and then you become the president of the United States
 

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WanderingFool said:
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Cognimancer said:
-Thrashes with Penetrater-
I would have wanted to earn the Presidency. After all, once you kill the President you become the President.

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Can't wait to see how SR4 ends up turning out though. I would have rather had a hammer-monkey gun than a dubstep gun but that's just me...hopefully Septic Avenger and Crowd Control are back.
And how many people would even want to kill President Colbert?

I know I wouldnt have.
You know what: THAT would have made for a great...well a good moral choice. Saint's Row 3 had a choice system didn't it? Either kill President Colbert and take his crown (he would have had a crown and you all know it) or, join with him and use him as a mouthpiece. Either way you get to fight him a few times, beat him and, rule. The difference being an end-game where you either get to wander around the big DC area sandbox or, you get to wander the big DC sandbox while calling up "President" Colbert and making him shit his pants on national TV or whatever.
 

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Desert Punk said:
Shoggoth2588 said:
Cognimancer said:
"We wanted Stephen Colbert to be the President," says Steve Jaros, creative director at Volition. "I have concept art that's amazing. It's Stephen Colbert on a battlefield holding the American flag, his sleeves are ripped off, he's got a bald eagle tattoo ... It was badass, but finally it was like, fuck it, you're the President. Why give it to someone else?"
I would have wanted to earn the Presidency. After all, once you kill the President you become the President.

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Can't wait to see how SR4 ends up turning out though. I would have rather had a hammer-monkey gun than a dubstep gun but that's just me...hopefully Septic Avenger and Crowd Control are back.
Well, you could be the Incumbent defending your position, literally, from someone else trying to gain the presidency?

Steven Colbert and John Stewart sending their waves of fanboys after the saints!
If that get put in as a dlc pack not unlike the tyranny of washington dlc for Assassin's Creed 3, I would buy the SHIT out of that.

Ideally, they would just put it into the game, but I won't ask them to push back the release at this point in time just for one bitchin' idea.
I mean really, WHO THE HELL VETOES PRESIDENT COLBERT?

Also, on a more serious note, while these games are really entertaining with their ridiculousness, it is something to consider how they seem intent on handing everything to the player and letting them just fuck with it for a while.
What makes a game satisfying, or the toys in a game have more lasting appeal, is if things are earned rather than given. Were we made to fight for the presidency in this game rather than just having it off of the bat, it would probably be more satisfying, and then allows them to have fun with the "what happens when you ARE the president" in a later game; as one example of how this thought process of earning rather than giving tends to just be a better idea.

Also, if they had more secret things in the game for players to unlock and discover, rather than outright telling us "dubstep guns and president colbert and dragons, because why the fuck not", those things tend to be seen in a better light as they were unexpected. That is part of what made the flood in Halo: Combat Evolved so great and scary, nobody saw that coming. Just a thought, because I really don't feel like writing and researching to better support my ideas right now, but it is something to consider.
 

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Ukomba said:
I just don't get some people's obsession with Colbert.
Its more of a running joke with fans of him that he would make a good president. He is funny, and that earns him some love, though I dont think you would find this kind of "obsession" were it not about him being cast as a president.
 

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ProtoChimp said:
Getting rid of fun things instead of finding ways to implement them in the game?

Once upon a time I remember Volition saying "We don't care if something doesn't make sense or "work" in the game, we'll put it in because its fun." Granted they were talking about SR3 there and many people were disappointed. But if you're gonna go wacky to the degree of superpowers and a gang banger becoming the president of the united states you might as well go all the way and add a mother fucking dragon. Tut tut Volition. You have disappointed me. And I'm gonna be so fucking mad if this ends up as DLC and the actual game isn't as awesome as these scrapped ideas.

But still, the game hasn't been released yet so I have to give it the benefit of the doubt. After all, I thought Met Gear Rising was gonna be terrible and now I can't stop thinking about it lol.
Yeah, this article is cause for concern, but considering how much I loved SR3, they earned my cautious optimism.

Better be good though, adding superpowers but not adding dragons... that's a tough sell.

And if they add this as DLC due to popular demand (which would surprise me absolutely not at all), they should keep it cheap, or at least one bigass DLC pack to make it worth 10-15 dollars.
 

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....Keep my super powers.... give me dragons, because the only thing more badass then fighting a dragon in the woods with a axe would be fighting a dragon through skyscrappers with a Dildobat.
 

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Quazimofo said:
Ukomba said:
I just don't get some people's obsession with Colbert.
Its more of a running joke with fans of him that he would make a good president. He is funny, and that earns him some love, though I dont think you would find this kind of "obsession" were it not about him being cast as a president.
He's kind of funny I guess, but nothing specially really. I like Stewart better.

It isn't just this, how about the International Space Station 'Colbert Module'? (That would probably have been named the Princess Luna Module if the voting were done today.)
 

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SR:TT often brought myself and buddy to tears laughing because of some of the absurd things that randomly happened between missions (because we're asshats). Multiplayer in this game is awesome and I can't wait to do it again.
 

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Atleast it will be imaginative and fun. Cant keep playing crime games set in a city again and again. Sleeping Dogs adding fighting. GTA added bowling with your cousin.Saints Row adds everything else you wont find in those titles. An im glad because its something different.
 

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hazabaza1 said:
If you have the options for "no dragons" or "dragons" why would you give up on the "dragons" idea and instead choose "no dragons"?
THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
Hopefully they're saving dragons for a Westeros DLC.
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