Sandman TV Show Still Happening, for Better or Worse

Kwatsu

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Crimson_Dragoon said:
Kwatsu said:
Well, I liked Neverwhere... though that was an original series, and I have a hard time imagining Sandman as anything but a comic. Still, who knows?
Neverwhere was based on a novel by Gaiman.

OT: I haven't read much of the comic, but I guess it could work as long as they don't half-ass it.
Actually the TV series came first (developed by Gaiman and others) before he adapted it into a novel. I enjoyed both, though, which is why I'd be willing to see how this turns out.

Gah, now I really want to hear the music from Neverwhere's opening credits again.
 

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For all of you who think this is a bad idea, I think you're crazy: Gaiman has stated repeatedly that many of the Sandman story-arcs were based upon classic tales from Shakespeare and Aesop's Fables, etc. That gives whoever is directing a wide catalog of tales to tell that will strike a chord of familiarity with the audience... which can be used to build a fanbase, and then you drag them along the more wild rides.

Will it be a challenge to pull off well? Certainly, but it isn't doomed to failure, and I'd rather they attempted it than not bothered, because you just don't know: it could be more awesome than you ever imagined.
 

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Kwatsu said:
Crimson_Dragoon said:
Kwatsu said:
Well, I liked Neverwhere... though that was an original series, and I have a hard time imagining Sandman as anything but a comic. Still, who knows?
Neverwhere was based on a novel by Gaiman.

OT: I haven't read much of the comic, but I guess it could work as long as they don't half-ass it.
Actually the TV series came first (developed by Gaiman and others) before he adapted it into a novel. I enjoyed both, though, which is why I'd be willing to see how this turns out.

Gah, now I really want to hear the music from Neverwhere's opening credits again.
Huh, I learned something today.
 

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solidstatemind said:
it could be more awesome than you ever imagined.
You're right. But then again, everything has the POTENTIAL to be awesome. Problem is, I just can't get onboard when it's in the hands of the one who set Supernatural upon the world. I know I'm in the minority, but I just hated that show. I feel that the show had some (potentially) great ideas but they just pissed it away to make another generic yankee-action-horror mess.

Sorry.

I loved Sandman (haven't read it in a while) and I agree that a tv-series is a much better choice than a feature movie, but even with Gaiman himself onboard, I still feel uneasy...
 

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Another vote for cautious ambivalence - it could be a pretty bad idea, but on the other hand it's much, MUCH better than attempting to make it into a film. Which two things from the whole run of Sandman would you choose to turn into the A and B plots of a Hollywood film? TV shows are allowed to be slightly rambling and esoteric.

Actually, I won't mind if the plot is vastly different to the books... it seems kind of appropriate to the whole theme of narrative and stories and dreams if they do something a bit different with it.
 

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I've always wanted to read Sandman, but have never gotten around to it. So I have no idea if this will be good or bad, but the fact that Gaiman is on board with it makes it sounds like it should at least be decent.
 

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All this time, I thought they were talking about the guy from Spiderman.

Well, at least this had got me interested in the comics.
 

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this is a horrible idea, the people in charge of it will fuck it in the ass and leave it in a dark alleyway ruined sphincter agape and skyward with a few crumpled bills thrown to the ground beside it.

Mr.Gaiman has produced many works that could be turned into a tv show or movie, this is not one of them.

with all due respect to Mr.Gaiman i would rather see Preacher by Garth Ennis made into a tv series
 
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At the moment it has Gaiman's support which makes me optimistic. That's more than that god-awful movie script ever got.

I'm curious to see how they do it. I suspect Preludes and Nocturnes will either be the first episode or possibly the basis for the whole series, simply because that explains the character, but even in that Dream interacts with various DC characters (John Constantine, Mr. Miracle, Martian Manhunter and Dr. Destiny). You could get rid of J'onn and Scott Free I suppose, but Constantine and Destiny are fairly integral to that volume.

Of course they could go down the route others have suggested and use the various stories that tie-in but have little impact
 

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So what will this involve exactly? A pale guy with messy hair and a trenchcoat being emo for an hour?
 

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Stein Inge said:
solidstatemind said:
it could be more awesome than you ever imagined.
You're right. But then again, everything has the POTENTIAL to be awesome. Problem is, I just can't get onboard when it's in the hands of the one who set Supernatural upon the world. I know I'm in the minority, but I just hated that show. I feel that the show had some (potentially) great ideas but they just pissed it away to make another generic yankee-action-horror mess.

Sorry.

I loved Sandman (haven't read it in a while) and I agree that a tv-series is a much better choice than a feature movie, but even with Gaiman himself onboard, I still feel uneasy...
The_root_of_all_evil said:
solidstatemind said:
For all of you who think this is a bad idea, I think you're crazy:
You've read the movie adaptation of Sandman in Development Hell, I assume?
Well, I can see y'all's point, and I understand being hesitant to embrace the concept but my thoughts on this are: at least their trying. If it sucks, don't watch it, but if there is even a chance that it'll be great, go for it.

As for the thought that everything has a chance to be awesome, I have to disagree. There are some things that you hear about that you just know are going to be a bag of ass.
 

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if Neil Gaiman get's involved then I shall believe... There's a lot of potencial in a Sandman TV series.
 
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solidstatemind said:
Well, I can see y'all's point, and I understand being hesitant to embrace the concept but my thoughts on this are: at least their trying. If it sucks, don't watch it, but if there is even a chance that it'll be great, go for it.
I don't know if it can be good though. I found the TV series Neverwhere to be tolerable at best because I don't think there's many things that can survive transition from one form to the other.

There's so much extra work in Sandman in the narrative flow, the story structure, the relationships and the characters that I really feel that Television couldn't do it justice.

He "could" write an excellent series for Television, but then it'd be nothing like the TPBs, which is what I'm assuming he sold it on.

To take an earlier post, I believe Pratchett's Discworld Cop Show can work because it only uses the fixtures of the book to make a television show. Gaiman's Sandman looks like it's transplanting one into the other - which I can count the number of successes on the fingers of one foot.
 

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So what will this involve exactly? A pale guy with messy hair and a trenchcoat being emo for an hour?
Awww.. Don't be trolling.

They are absolutely fantastic comics.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
I don't know if it can be good though. I found the TV series Neverwhere to be tolerable at best because I don't think there's many things that can survive transition from one form to the other.

There's so much extra work in Sandman in the narrative flow, the story structure, the relationships and the characters that I really feel that Television couldn't do it justice.
Well, that's reason to be optimistic. Neverwhere was a TV series before it was a book, and I loved the book. Sounds like it improved.

But yeah, I'm pretty worried about all those things, too. Plus, a lot of the more bizarre, fantastical stuff Gaiman wrote might not translate well. Maybe it will work if a network like HBO picks it up, but I'm afraid that if a smaller or less risk-taking group gets it, it'll either be faithful but lackluster or a straight-up bastardization.