Satanism: Misunderstood

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stabnex

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The infamous SCAMola said:
So, where does the virgin sacrificing and ram's blood drinking come into play?
I think you're thinking of paganism which modern day churches (greedy and uninformed as they are) relate to Satanism much in the way a landscape artist understands rice harvesting. Any connection is an illusion filled in with presumptions and propaganda. There have been thousands of religions throughout history and if you'll believe what today's preachers say every single one of them is devil worship with a different name.
 

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Julianking93 said:
Unfortunetly, only a few people in my town are like that. Some are, and I'm friends with them (most of my friends are atheist or agnostic though) but mostly its people like Fred Phelps. Canada is BEAUTIFUL this time of year! What part are you going to?
Vancouver. I was there for 6 weeks over Christmas, so it will be good to see it... you know, without snow this time. And there I plan to stay. I think we're having a Vancouver Escapist meet up soon, so you're always welcome to come if you can be bother andonce we sort out times and stuff.
 

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PurpleRain said:
Julianking93 said:
Unfortunetly, only a few people in my town are like that. Some are, and I'm friends with them (most of my friends are atheist or agnostic though) but mostly its people like Fred Phelps. Canada is BEAUTIFUL this time of year! What part are you going to?
Vancouver. I was there for 6 weeks over Christmas, so it will be good to see it... you know, without snow this time. And there I plan to stay. I think we're having a Vancouver Escapist meet up soon, so you're always welcome to come if you can be bother andonce we sort out times and stuff.
I wish, I'm not going back up there until around October or November.
 

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Diablini said:
Religion is an idea itself, I'm glad somebody understands it. The Bible isn't a historical book, it's a story book disigned to change people to be good. Buy it man!
It's a great read if you don't take it seriously and analyse it
 

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wewontdie11 said:
But I can still sacrifice the occasional virgin to the great horned one right?
Of course you can. No qualms about it whatsoever.

That was actually...I agree with you, OP. That was...a different look.
 

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I remember hearing about how someone said "When Jesus healed the blind man, was that metophorical?" I think that is epic as it completely ties in with everything the bible is saying (I am not religious so please don't consider me a devout catholic or anything). imho, the bible is a set of stories meant to be interpreted to create a functional society. Satanism is misunderstood, yes, but it is also misunderstood in its misunderstanding as there are, no doubt, many views on satanism, even within satanism itself. My point being (the OT point) is that satanism is both bad and good, though possibly (i can't say i am entirely unprejudiced) a tad worse than other religous beliefs. On the topic of the bible, consider this, the unification under a single deity (myth or otherwise) helps the different levels of society 'gel' better, allowing them to function better by being more synchronised with each other. While the teachings help prevent conflicts.
 

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WrongSprite said:
From what you've put there, it sounds good. But I doubt thats the whole story.
He's one of those people who try to impose their values and draw more people to the sect (of however you spell that). I don't buy what he says.
Satan is EVIL and satanism is wrong.
 

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Well..Ritual Satanism entails all the rodent-killing heavy metal cliché crap.

And rational Satanism gives you a free license to act like a dick.

It's how I see it, anyway.

The Satanic Bible would be an interesting read, though.
 

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Satanism in itself is completely pointless, if yo really want true freedom to do what you want then just do it anyway without drawing on a bad and frankly cobbled together philosophy, created by a man who just wanted to sleep with as many women as possible (surprisingly this is why a lot of cults seem to be formed).
 
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Rorschach II said:
The infamous SCAMola said:
So, where does the virgin sacrificing and ram's blood drinking come into play?
It doesn't. Other religions have made this image which is what man is supposed to avoid.

But what they have created out of this is everything man desires. Sex, temptation, FUN.

He is what you as a person make yourself out to be.
Actually my friend is one and the sacrificing is optional in the "magic" portion of Satanism but as far as I know it's only animals they sacrifice and my friend doesn't bother with it and I kind of find Satanism a lazy religion because it lets you do what you please basically and you can pick and choose what aspects of it to follow and in it you are your own God.
 

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Nmil-ek said:
Diablini said:
Religion is an idea itself, I'm glad somebody understands it. The Bible isn't a historical book, it's a story book disigned to change people to be good. Buy it man!
Good in what way? Half of its stone your unruly children, gays are an abomination, god having pissing contests with himself, oh murder your son by the way "oh you were about to I was just jokin' but good man for playing along"

And wonderful advice like invest not in things as god will provide you with all you need, thats absolutley horrible advice.
Have you actually read it or are you taking the media's stand on it. NOTHING is written about gays, I have no idea what you meant with the pissing contests, and the "murder your son" part is the part I hate about it. But half of the stories aren't based on the "listen and obey" thing and you can learn something from them, also you are taking the don't invest thing too literraly. It doesn't mean just sleep, eat, and sit in a chair, it means that those who follow the path of the good are going to live by his protection. Which isn't nesesarilly true.
 

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The_AC said:
If you read the Bible, you'll see that God...

1) accepts human sacrifice
2) drowns the whole world except for a dude and his family
3) controls people's minds and punishes them for their actions (God "hardening" the Pharoah's heart)
4) makes bears eat kids because the kids made fun of a guy's baldness (no, really)
5) burns cities to the ground because they had some gay prostitutes in them
6) says "you can beat your slave as hard as you want so long as he doesn't die" (pretty much an exact quote)
... and so on.

The Bible doesn't really give any specific instances of Satan doing anything bad (The Bible doesn't say that Satan convinced Eve to eat the fruit, it was just a talking snake with legs).
Not sure where you're quoting 6 from.
Exodus 21:27 And if he smite out his manservant?s tooth, or his maidservant?s tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth?s sake.

You can however beat people as much as you like as long as you don't cause injury. And if you do injure them (provided it isn't permanent) you don't have to do anything other than pay them for their downtime as they recover. Go Moses!

The rest of it's all fine though, the Old Testament is worryingly psychotic. The bit with Phaoroah is made even more disturbing on reading the story of Joseph (the one with the coat) and how it's his predictions of the famine that allows Egypt to become so rich and powerful. Something of a lack of foresight there.
 

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There is a Christian Preacher in my local town, this is really odd because in the UK we aren't that anal about religion. Anyway he makes a point of telling everyone that we are going to hell - what a nice Christian fellow he is - and that science has done nothing for us.

My point is that if you follow a religion that much that it dictates your life, whether it be Christianity, Odinism or Satanism, then you are a complete tool and need to stop wasting your life.
 

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Much like Christianity, Satanism suffers from people misinterprating the whole idea. Cults and soforth. I always take a few minutes to explain that to people who think Satanism is about sacrifing goats and drinking virgin blood.

I still think that in the purest form, Satanism is probably the best code to live by, if you are to live by any code. I found it rather ironic, though, that they preach freedom and then have a set of rules to follow. Though most of them are basically what should come naturally to people.
 

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Diablini said:
Religion is an idea itself, I'm glad somebody understands it. The Bible isn't a historical book, it's a story book disigned to change people to be good. Buy it man!
in a rather violent and sex ridden way
"whoremonger"
That word was in there somewhere but I never read the whole thing as that would go agaisnt my own personal religion which is based on the possibility of everything
 

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Undeadpope said:
Diablini said:
Religion is an idea itself, I'm glad somebody understands it. The Bible isn't a historical book, it's a story book disigned to change people to be good. Buy it man!
in a rather violent and sex ridden way
"whoremonger"
That word was in there somewhere but I never read the whole thing as that would go agaisnt my own personal religion which is based on the possibility of everything
You mean warmonger, right?
 

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Diablini said:
You mean warmonger, right?
I am almost sure it was whoremonger buggery if I can remember where but it was something to do with hell if I am not mistaken but I remember thinking "Surely that should be WARmonger" but I am going to try find this out for the sake of proving I havent totally lost it just yet.