Saturn on the VC?

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EzraPound

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There was a rumor about this a while ago. Does anyone else know any more about it, or thinks its possible?

On a side note, why not the PS1? Does Sony have the rights to all those titles locked up? Discuss.
 

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TheNecroswanson said:
PS3 sacked it's compatibility for most of the models to help lower it's price. You can get ones with it, but it's still a pretty penny.

As for Sega Saturn games on Virtual Console? Doubt it. Saturn didn't have very many great games, and many of them were JRPGs that were done better on other systems. So if they do put any games form the Saturn onto the VC, I can't see it being anything other then Dark Stalkers.
There was this beat em up with a billion characters. It was absolutely awesome but I totally can't remember it's name.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
TheNecroswanson said:
PS3 sacked it's compatibility for most of the models to help lower it's price. You can get ones with it, but it's still a pretty penny.

As for Sega Saturn games on Virtual Console? Doubt it. Saturn didn't have very many great games, and many of them were JRPGs that were done better on other systems. So if they do put any games form the Saturn onto the VC, I can't see it being anything other then Dark Stalkers.
There was this beat em up with a billion characters. It was absolutely awesome but I totally can't remember it's name.
It could've been Capcom vs SNK: Millennium Fight or Guilty Gear X, both of those games were on DC and had a fairly big roster of playables.
 

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As for Sega Saturn games on Virtual Console? Doubt it. Saturn didn't have very many great games, and many of them were JRPGs that were done better on other systems. So if they do put any games form the Saturn onto the VC, I can't see it being anything other then Dark Stalkers.
Uh...

- NiGHTS into Dreams
- Burning Rangers
- Virtua Fighter 2
- Shining Force III
- Dragon Force
- Guardian Heroes
- Virtua Cop & Virtua Cop 2
- Die Hard Arcade
- House of The Dead
- Saturn Bomberman
- Panzer Dragoon/Zwei/Saga
- Virtual On: Cyber Troopers
- Radiant Silvergun
- Street Fighter Alpha 2
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
- Mega Man 8

Admittedly, many of those have been done on the PS1, but they still haven't yet come to a Nintendo console, which makes the Saturn premise also a worthwhile way to rob PS1 hits.
 

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Retoru said:
Decoy Doctorpus said:
TheNecroswanson said:
PS3 sacked it's compatibility for most of the models to help lower it's price. You can get ones with it, but it's still a pretty penny.

As for Sega Saturn games on Virtual Console? Doubt it. Saturn didn't have very many great games, and many of them were JRPGs that were done better on other systems. So if they do put any games form the Saturn onto the VC, I can't see it being anything other then Dark Stalkers.
There was this beat em up with a billion characters. It was absolutely awesome but I totally can't remember it's name.
It could've been Capcom vs SNK: Millennium Fight or Guilty Gear X, both of those games were on DC and had a fairly big roster of playables.
Nah. It was guardian heroes. The shiz.
 

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Saturn games may just be too big.
IMO, Nintendo should just release a 40GB hard drive for the Wii and be done with it. Then they could put CD-based games on the VC, and simply transition the format to their next console.

You could theoretically download a Saturn games on your VC BTW, most would just fill, like, your whole flash drive (and Panzer Dragoon Saga is simply out of the question, regardless of SD Card).
 

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I agree, the data space on the Wii is nothing short of laughable. Not to mention there's no conversion chart. How many blocks is how many bytes?
And especially with the amount of data and space required to use it for something other than playing Wii games is ridiculous. I had downloaded the three Strong Bad games before needing to purchase an SD card simply because after all my game saves, it just had no space for anything else.

And game size isn't the only problem. The need for wifi on the Wii makes it's download speed unacceptable. Imagine how long it would take to download something so small as a 2D fighting game. Not to mention it times out constantly. It would be nearly impossible to get something that big on the Wii. The networking and hardware is just too shitty.
Hm, sounds like we need a new Wii with better Internet connectivity, a 60GB harddrive, and CD/DVD playback with ripping. Oh, and slots on the side for NES, SNES, and N64 games. That would be nice (it's very possible, too, see the link):

http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/71/71296/retro_duo_red_z.jpg
 

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I want Dreamcast VC!
Why the heck isn't the Game Boy on VC? Or the Game Boy Advance? I could use some Pokemon Gold/Silver or Advance Wars right now, and those are a joke to emulate.
 

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TheNecroswanson said:
I agree, the data space on the Wii is nothing short of laughable. Not to mention there's no conversion chart. How many blocks is how many bytes?
I have an answer to that, sorta. I forgot how many blocks a Wii has on it, but the total amount of internal memory is 512MB(yeah, that's all you get, 512 internal flash memory), so just take 524288(amount of bytes in 512MB) and divide that by the number of initial blocks. The resulting product is the bytes to the block.
 

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EzraPound said:
I want Dreamcast VC!
Why the heck isn't the Game Boy on VC? Or the Game Boy Advance? I could use some Pokemon Gold/Silver or Advance Wars right now, and those are a joke to emulate.
Because the DSi is coming out, and it seems likely that they're going to release the portable games on its DLC service.
 

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TheNecroswanson said:
512! I have an SD card for my cell phone the size of a housefly (literally) with more space then that! And it's for music!
Dude, it's a Wii, not a computer. Read the spec sheet they packed in the box with it, you get 512MB of internal storage. And, let's not forget that some of that is off limits to you being used by things like the console's OS and such. At least they had the foresight to allow you to use external memory to expand the console's space, it's just a pity you can't launch VC titles off an SD card, but I have a feeling that'll be patched into the OS in the future.

And, really, it's not like there's a lot space needed at the moment. Most VC games are downright tiny, you can fit an entire NES fullset of ROMs into 72MB with compression(trust me on that), uncompressed it's around 335MB, and that's thousands of games. You gotta remember, even the biggest SNES games, the big 48 mega-bit deals only actually held around 3 to 4 MB of data.

Granted, the need for space is ever increasing, and with Wii Ware that demand is only going to get bigger. But, SD cards are dirt cheap, and like I said, I have a feeling the ability to launch VC/WW from external memory will get patched in with a firmware upgrade at some point in the future. Possibly as early as the end of this year or this coming spring.