Saving the Final Fantasy series.
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See, as far as I can tell, Final Fantasy XII is just Knights of the Old Republic with decent scripting tools for your characters' actions rather than a pathetically short action queue.
That's nice, but critic reviews are NOT what I'm looking for. (and apparently many others) What I want is a game that is good, not a game that is said to be good. As far as I know they might be just giving the games good reviews just because it's a beloved franchise. I don't give a damn about game reviews anymore unless they point out game breaking flaws. At this point I start playing games and formulating my own opinions and screw everyone else.Bob_F_It said:
As far as I'm concerned in FF, they need to put the series on life support because I don't see much originality here if at all. Because gone are the days that Japan was the country that cutting edge in terms of games. Of course, I think they'll never learn their lesson until fans notice they're buying the same product for the 100th time just with new characters and slight upgrades.
See, here's where I find there's a disconnect with reality.Proto Cloud said:
If everyone says a game is good, there are two explanations. Either they are telling the truth and the game actually is good, or they are all part of a grand conspiracy to trick you personally into buying a forty pound videogame, of which they will not see a penny.
Which of these explanations is not wearing a tinfoil hat?
That's NOT what I call a new game, that's a old game reskinned(New battle systems, yeah right, most of them are VERY alike). FFXII was just a small step forward in a genre that was already ahead of the curve and wasn't even close to how solid many Action RPGs were at the time (Like Zelda, KOTOR, Fable, Jade Empire and Dark Cloud 2). FFXIII isn't even out buddy, for all we know it might be a Turn based RPG.Onmi said:
You might want to start playing things besides JRPGs.
I think Yahtzee of all people has taught you this: That the opinion of the masses doesn't matter at all, all they're doing is trying to convince you towards their opinion. (look up his videos on the "critically acclaimed" Fable, Halo, GTA, JRPG and Bioshock games. That's all I have to say. Just cause everyone is lulled into it doesn't mean it's immediately good.GloatingSwine said:
Hurray! You have formulated your own opinions that are different than mine! Amazing! My work is done.
It also doesn't mean it's automatically bad. I'm pretty sure most people in this thread that say they like a game, you know, like the game. Just a guess. You can deny them this truth, but then how do we know you don't dislike certain games because you know other people like them. It's a stupid way to think.Proto Cloud said:
At the end of the day whether someone was "tricked" into liking something doesn't so much matter as long as they can legitimize why they like it. I had to train myself to like FPSs so I could appreciate the Half Life series and Bioshock, now I generally get why people do like them. Its not that I bought into the hype, it's simply that my tools in terms of analytical reasoning was flaky with the genre, once I got some experience under my belt I began to understand why certain decisions were made in those games and could identify with their characters/settings. I imagine a lot of people that don't get the Final Fantasy series have dull tools in the JRPG department and maybe they have no desire to sharpen them, that's fine, but don't assume people like them for no good reason. It's simply a taste some people have acquired and now really enjoy and for others it's a taste they may simply never be able to appreciate.
It's fine really. Things are like that. I don't get why people get so boiled up about it.
I've tried to acquire a taste for WRPGs, but I can't stand them no matter how hard I try. That doesn't mean I can't attempt to see what made Mass Effect good, or am I buying into hype?
Yeah, I hated everything about that reply so I fixed it. He really isn't that bad, just thinks he's smarter then you, which is amusing cause he knows nothing about you.Onmi said:
And the opinion of one mouthy gobshite does matter?Proto Cloud said:
No. The mathematics is simple, if everyone says they enjoy X, the chances are that it is because X is enjoyable, whether X is a videogame, narcotic, sexual practise, or other activity.
Seems this already turning into the debate of whose opinion matters more, circular logic, misunderstanding and namecalling. Ok, if it's going to be that way then I have a paper due for Monday, see you then.
Proto Cloud said:
Well, you've developed your own opinions that are different from the great majority. What happened to democracy? If you have a single opinion, then it doesn't suddenly become fact. When most people have a similar opinion, that's consensus. If there's a concensus that Final Fantasy is good, chances are the games will be bought. Why would Square surrender to your requests when millions of others are telling them that a good job is being done and continuing to buy the games? Show me figures that display a slump in sales and you might have some weight behind you.Proto Cloud said:
I also suspect that you don't know what Metacritic does. They don't do reviews; they sift around hundreds of reviews in magazines and on the internet and give an average opinion representitive of everyone's thoughts.
