SAY NO TO ACTA.

[Generalissimo]

if this EVER passes. i will be in london protesting 'till i can't protest no more.

-before that steam drill does beat me down i'll die with my hammer in my hand.

-john henry. the steel drivin' man. (book)

 

[newwiseman]

We got Ron Wyden Sen. D-Ore. over here. With the way he's been stopping shit like this I'm going to be damn sure to vote for him again. Makes me proud to be an Oregonian.

 

[Jegsimmons]

even if (and thats a big IF) this passes in western or democratic countries, it wouldn't last long.

a furious shit storm will arise like the earth have never seen before or then after. every internet user and anon will be up in arms and raising all sorts of hell. In fact im sure it might even cause major violence if it happens.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Does this violate anything in the constitution? If so, then we have the right to rebell.

fair use and expression. among others. and even then we'd rebel anyway.

and if all else fails, start voteing from the roof tops. this shit would never pass. every news organization would show it, no elected official would have the balls to vote for it (see the backlash of Obama-care vote), and internet users are too bat shit insane to stand for it.

 

[Jegsimmons]

On the one hand, it's completely evil and needs to die in a fire.

On the other hand, it could potentially find nearly all sources of child pornography and destroy them.

You can make anything sound good by tacking "it could help punish child molesters" on the description.

ok, who honestly thinks it would even come close to stopping internet crime? i won't. only legit people would take a hit. and anonymous would end up becoming a militia group. either way, ACTA loses.

 

[coolkirb]

Cant support anything that is clearly socialist propaganda, this video has an agenda behind it so I cant take everything it says as truth or fact.

 

[Jegsimmons]

check out this link, both Europe and north america are against it because it violates human rights, it will NEVER pass.

[link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement#G8_position[/link]

 

[8a88leph1sh]

America has already signed it. So the treaty is now in full effect.

In the US, even if a treaty is signed it must be passed by Congress. For instance after WWI, President Woodrow Wilson signed the Treaty of Versailles which established a precursor to the United Nations among a great many other things. However, Congress rejected the treaty thus making President Wilson's signature invalid.

 

[Zoe Castillo]

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[MorphingDragon]

The fuck is this shit.

Someone is going to get murdered.

 

[SinisterGehe]

This can't pass in Finland, it would break so many laws, including our freedom of act and speech laws, trade laws and constitution in which it is stated that only the police is allowed to give our criminal senteces and allowed to investigate them. Example if my ISP would catch me downloading Justin Bieber album, they would need to report it to police (or the TEOSTO has to report it to police) then give them enough proof in order it to get a status in which it will be investigated and after that police must find prove, both physical and digital of my actions and then send it to a prosecutor's office in which they decide is it worth to go to a law. If now then I can be fined up to a one day tickets worth that would be... 6 Euros.

But yeah, Ill start bothering my representative at the Cabinet, again... I think he knows me by my name already, sighs every time he gets a call from me.

 

[Legendsmith]

The thing that shits me about all this is that some people hear about it and misunderstand it,i.e: OP and many others in this thread saying that it will restrict schools and genetic brand drugs. panic and blow it out of proportion. When others come to see what all the fuss is about, they understandably disregard it because it's exaggerated.i.e: The people making the sarcastic remarks and calling out others on their exaggeration
The problem is that they then disregard ALL of it, even the core issue which everyone should rightfully be up in arms about.See Footnote #2

I've read one of the ACTA drafts. It is something you should be concerned about.
It's not the end of all things as some are making it out to be, but it is an infringement on privacy and our rights, not to mention that it will jack up the prices that ISPs charge for internet access.This is logical. If they have to do shit like monitoring, which under ACTA they will have to in order to prevent copyright breach, they will have to charge more to cover the cost incurred to monitor your access. It might also slow down connections. I don't know.In places like Australia, where internet is already very expensive and slow, this will mean internet access fees will be phenomenally huge.

Don't miss the tree for the forest. Among all the exaggeration there is a real issue here.I'm aware I'm repeating myself here. Reinforcement through repetition.

 

[zombiesinc]

Here's [https://www.accessnow.org/page/s/just-say-no-to-acta] a petition, signing it is as easy as one, two, four. Get on it people.

 

[Andy Szidon]

The biggist problem with acta is that they kept it a big secret and doesn't tell anyone (even though trade agreements can overwrite the constitution) and then, 2 years later, when we find out, they're like "it was to be efficient" and we're supposed to believe them.

Edit:

Here's [https://www.accessnow.org/page/s/just-say-no-to-acta] a petition, signing it is as easy as one, two, four. Get on it people.

Can you find one for the USA?

 

[Lilani]

On the other hand, it could potentially find nearly all sources of child pornography and destroy them.

Pedophilia and child porn existed before the Internet, and they would still exist even if we completely shut it down.