Absolutely. If they end up in some kind of massive financial trouble, I'm not going to let them end up homeless or anything, but I'll be damned if I'm going to have kids who turn into Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian.
Say you became super rich. Would you still make your kids work?
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Well, I like Basic Income, so I suppose I'd go with that. They get $X dollars per month to spend as they like that will cover necessities. If they want more, they have to work for it. As kids, I'd make chores available and if they exhaust those, I'd try to set them up to mow neighbor's lawns or something. That way, by the time they've reached working age, they're already conditioned to work and save for the stuff they want and hopefully have picked up some skills as well.
Whenever I kick the bucket, they'd hopefully have the right mindset to use my money wisely and not squander it.
Whenever I kick the bucket, they'd hopefully have the right mindset to use my money wisely and not squander it.
"Pretty convenient how every time I build character, he saves a couple hundred dollars"FalloutJack said:
Sure why not. I won't put them in the meat grinder that is working a souless job. But it is nice to get a paycheck that you earned with your own money that you get to spend on yourself.
Now, if the kid also has a really passionate past time that might as well be work to them than I'll let em at it.
As others have said, I'd only get really hard on them if they become those entitled assholes that think they can treat people like shit because their parents have big bucks.
Now, if the kid also has a really passionate past time that might as well be work to them than I'll let em at it.
As others have said, I'd only get really hard on them if they become those entitled assholes that think they can treat people like shit because their parents have big bucks.
Nope.
There is really no point it is if I was rich enough not to make them work. And I can't imagine a child of mine not doing something. So it's not a question of them sitting around at home all the time, it's a question of whether they have hiked Europe and the Great Wall while learning about film school and starting a web series.
There is really no point it is if I was rich enough not to make them work. And I can't imagine a child of mine not doing something. So it's not a question of them sitting around at home all the time, it's a question of whether they have hiked Europe and the Great Wall while learning about film school and starting a web series.
Fuck yes! They're gonna have to work for what they really want! That goes double if they want to become a politician!! Also, they are not going to get my wealth once I die unless they really want to screw over a whole bunch of charities at once...
Other than that, my new-found wealth would barely reflect my living conditions, anyway... Like fuck I'm gonna live in some wealth-equivalent home basically called "a mansion" for convenience sake...
Other than that, my new-found wealth would barely reflect my living conditions, anyway... Like fuck I'm gonna live in some wealth-equivalent home basically called "a mansion" for convenience sake...
Pretty much this. Given 'em a stipend to live off of, enough to pay for food and rent, but only the absolute minimum for those, and pay for studies so they don't get saddled with student loans, but beyond that they're on their own. More money would be loans, not gifts.Veylon said:
Yeah, make them be in a crap reality TV shows about the kids of rich people.
More seriously, some time in customer service is character building and should help people learn not to abuse people with rubbish jobs.
More seriously, some time in customer service is character building and should help people learn not to abuse people with rubbish jobs.
I don't believe for one moment in the "nobility of work" nonsense. There's nothing laudable about work for work's sake, that's a lie perpetuated by the owning classes. However, I do believe in learning responsibility while you're still young, so I would definitely make my kids (like I would ever have kids, hah!) get a job and pay their own way until I think they're ready for the responsibility of wealth. So they would get little they haven't earned themselves until about age 25 or so, maybe longer if they're behaving irresponsibly, but after that they can retire if they like. Just so long as they get a good grounding in what the real world is like for most people before they get to leave the rat race.
Honest work, just reward.
That's the way to please the Lord.
If I were to sire a wee Mardoc Junior then he would be educated, preferably go to university (wouldn't want him repeating the same mistakes that I did) and then would work. Now I wouldn't mind if my hypothetical offspring wanted to work at something they were passionate about (artist, volunteer, charity, whatever) or if they wanted to pursue a career (in whatever the family business were to become or anything else) but I would not tolerate idleness. If they wanted the latest video games/a fancy car/permission to use the privater helicopter to take their friends to the holiday home in Barbados, then they're going to have to put the effort in.
That's the way to please the Lord.
If I were to sire a wee Mardoc Junior then he would be educated, preferably go to university (wouldn't want him repeating the same mistakes that I did) and then would work. Now I wouldn't mind if my hypothetical offspring wanted to work at something they were passionate about (artist, volunteer, charity, whatever) or if they wanted to pursue a career (in whatever the family business were to become or anything else) but I would not tolerate idleness. If they wanted the latest video games/a fancy car/permission to use the privater helicopter to take their friends to the holiday home in Barbados, then they're going to have to put the effort in.
Yes, at least because they will need to learn discipline, learn to provide for themselves (hey, what if my money vault blows up?) and to learn that just because their FATHER is rich that doesn't make THEM hot shit.
EDIT: I'd also pay for their education, obviously.
EDIT: I'd also pay for their education, obviously.
Of course. My success is not their success. They need to make their own way. I'd be there to assist them in some things like helping to pay for certain things but generally; it is entirely on them. They need a respect for the hard work required to earn money.
When people can live extravagantly wealthy lives without needing to put one bit of effort into it, you end up with people like Paris Hilton or Cate Blanchett's character in Blue Jasmine: vapid, hollow, arrogant, smug, unable to cope with the realities of everyday life, and thinking they're inherently better than anyone below their station. Yes, I would absolutely make them work. And in fact I might make them initially work the most menial, blue-collar jobs there are: retail, plumbing, yardwork, something physical where you have to interact with people from all walks of life. One will not understand the scope of human life without seeing it firsthand.
Well, I wouldn't support them outside of helping them through their studies, but as long as they're in school I wouldn't force them to work.
Here's why. Student loans here are intended to let you live through your studies, pay for housing, food and anything else you need. The thing is that it doesn't come close to doing that. We get roughly the same as those who studied in the 70's did. Now 40 years of inflation alter students are poorer than ever and they do not get any money in the months where they have their exams, which encourages them to start working during the busiest time of the year. There's a clear correlation between the students who work most and those who get the worst grades (and often those who fail courses). I would want my kids to have the opportunity to focus on their performances and get ahead after they finish school. After that I have done my job and then they should start looking out for themselves.
I have suffered through my education, living in a crappy place, eating terrible food because it was cheap. It's not good for your health and it can't be referred to as short term when it spans over years. I wouldn't recommend such a lifestyle to anyone and if I can prevent my kids from living it then I would. The upside is that it's made me good at balancing a budget.
That said I wouldn't spoil them completely. They would still be on a budget as that is important to learn, I wouldn't have them stay at home because they need to learn to manage things themselves.
Here's why. Student loans here are intended to let you live through your studies, pay for housing, food and anything else you need. The thing is that it doesn't come close to doing that. We get roughly the same as those who studied in the 70's did. Now 40 years of inflation alter students are poorer than ever and they do not get any money in the months where they have their exams, which encourages them to start working during the busiest time of the year. There's a clear correlation between the students who work most and those who get the worst grades (and often those who fail courses). I would want my kids to have the opportunity to focus on their performances and get ahead after they finish school. After that I have done my job and then they should start looking out for themselves.
I have suffered through my education, living in a crappy place, eating terrible food because it was cheap. It's not good for your health and it can't be referred to as short term when it spans over years. I wouldn't recommend such a lifestyle to anyone and if I can prevent my kids from living it then I would. The upside is that it's made me good at balancing a budget.
That said I wouldn't spoil them completely. They would still be on a budget as that is important to learn, I wouldn't have them stay at home because they need to learn to manage things themselves.
Oh, but of course. Basically a case of "if I had to do it, so do you," because if I have to work my ass off right now just to make ends meet I'm sure as hell going to make any kid I have do the same for at least a couple year. You know, make them appreciate what they have because they actually earned it. Granted I would probably give them a sort of allowance to help out, but only by so much.
Lol, what kids.
Heck yeah I'd make them get a job first. I'd make them work in retail or fast food.
Nothing builds an appreciation of not having to work minimum wage like having a customer service type job.
After that I'll help pay for them to pursue what they actually want to do, after they're broken and bitter about the world like I am.
Heck yeah I'd make them get a job first. I'd make them work in retail or fast food.
Nothing builds an appreciation of not having to work minimum wage like having a customer service type job.
After that I'll help pay for them to pursue what they actually want to do, after they're broken and bitter about the world like I am.