Schwarzenegger and Yee Unapologetic for Failed Supreme Court Battle

[Soviet Steve]

Can't we just deport the idiots to North Korea? As I recall they already have the sort of legislation they want and minors there aren't exposed to violent videogames.

 

[PingoBlack]

So, let me get this straight.

The Governator, made famous by films such as Conan the Barbarian and The Terminator is now worried kids might be corrupted by violent media?

Hahahahahahahaha, priceless!

 

[Daveman]

I'm pretty sure in the UK you get fined like that for selling games to people under-age, just like with alcohol. What's the big deal?

 

[Jodah]

Law makers don't care when they spend money that isn't coming out of their pocket? Who would have thought...

I still don't get what was so wrong with that Bill, I mean, let's say we have a movie, Commando for example, should we let 10 year olds buy and watch that? (admittedly I don't think it would cause any damage but whatever). Why is it any different if it involves games?

I don't know, in the UK retailers can't sell R18 games or films to minors (not that that stops them from playing/seeing them) and we aren't artistically bankrupt. But I don't know how it works in America. Do you let 12 year-olds go to the cinema and watch the latest Saw movie?

That was a laughable waste of money though, no argument here.

It is because in the US all media is self regulated. Movies, music, television, books, and video games are self regulated. In fact, the video game industry already has the highest success rate for it's regulation of any media. It is easier to get into an R rated movie as a minor than it is to buy a M video game.

By making video games a government regulated industry it would put them into the same category as guns, alcohol, tobacco, and pornography.

Anyway, if the government don't regulate what kids see, who should? You said the cinema's self regulate, but why wouldn't they let children watch whatever they want? Wouldn't that lead to more money for them, which is what a business is all about?

Ultimately, it's the parents' responsibility. Theaters have incentive to regulate because their customers want the ratings to be enforced, and anyone ignoring the ratings would lose business very quickly.

And wouldn't it be significantly easier for the parent to regulate if little billy couldn't go out and purchase grand theft auto of his own free accord?

Video games are already the best regulated media industry. It is easier for a minor to get into an R rated movie than it is to get a M rated game. Hell, in many cases it is easier for a minor to buy alcohol (which is regulated by the government and carries stiff penalties) than it is to buy a M game.

 

[Atmos Duality]

"I felt it was important that the state take an active role in protecting kids, because that's our responsibility," said Leland Yee, now a State Senator.

How is that the state's responsibility? Are government employees nannies now too?
Are we going to extend Social Services' jurisdiction to include "violent" video games?

Why not; that's the kind of precedent you're setting here when you make it the STATE'S responsibility to "protect kids" in this manner.

 

[Sperium 3000]

I really think laws like these are pointless because there are too many ways to go around it. And besides, it's not the government's job to tell kids what they can and can't play. It's their parents' job, and I really don't wanna think American parents are stupid enough to get House Of the Dead Overkill to a 8 year old.

Then again, my father got me Conker's Bad Fur Day when I was 13 despite the big freaking M in the box and "Absolutely not for kids" in bright red letters on a yellow background, so yeeaaaaaaah...

 

[Otaku World Order]

Did I miss something? Aren't the Republican types (i.e. Ah-nuld and company) supposed to be all about small government/lower spending/don't tell me what to teach mah chilluns/pry my gun from my cold dead hands stuff? And now they're talking about how spending more to increase government regulation to take away rights from parents was a good idea...

This is almost as ridiculous as Newt Gingrich talking about moon bases in eight years.

 

[halfeclipse]

On the one hand I actually do support that law. I think that selling R18 items to minors should resultit in government punishment.
However as they were already told it would not pass and as had already been shot down twice already they were just wasting tax payer money so should be forced to foot the bill themselves.
Fuckers get paid more than enough as it is.

Since no ones beat me to it: The R18 equivalent rating for video games is the AO rating, and good luck finding a retailer that even carries those. Not sure about where you live, but around here (Ontario, Canada) the majority of M rated games would be the equivalent to films AA-14

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Just to repeat the explanation as to why it's a big deal, someone who just left Hollywood after making millions from it, now wants heavy restrictions on video games, without applying the same rules to movies. Strange when video games sure as hell handed a few bucks his way thru the 90s too. I HOPE someone has brought up all the games he's been the face of, where the only mission is to violently murder everything on screen until you die.

I'm all for both personally, there should be legal age restrictions on movies and games. However, in the US, (I could be completely wrong) I believe there's some kind of constitutional protection in place, that stops blocking people from seeing what they want to see under 'free speech' rules, porn is not viewed as art, which is why kids can't see that legally.

Essentially, it's part of America's long fought battle to get video games classified as pornography, not art. Soon as that happens they can get these things out of shops and far away from 'the children!', where they'll be safe to grow up, get a gun and go shoot some foreigners for Uncle Sam.

(May have slipped a small amount of exaggeration and a large amount of hyperbole in there)

 

[DTWolfwood]

why would they be sorry? they didn't have to pay for any of it! Not even when they lost did they have to pay for it.

It cost them nothing but only the money of the Californian Taxpayers.

The governator is already on his last term, and heres hoping Yee gets voted out of office for this.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

What the actual hell?
Seriously Root, you just set in parallel one of the most upstanding people of our time with a money-wasting moron of a politician.

To be fair, I've done worse in my time. To me they 'physically' remind me of each other. Maybe this is one of those times where "It's only me"?

I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be, but you best edge off where you are going.

I'm really not sure how to respond to this... Michael McIntyre also looks like Kim Jong Un.

Would you prefer me to say that it's horrifying that a Chinese National and an Austrian National have spend millions of a crumbling states economy on failing to tell Americans how they should live? That's far more depressing than Celebrity lookalikes.

 

[lacktheknack]

Anyway, if the government don't regulate what kids see, who should? You said the cinema's self regulate, but why wouldn't they let children watch whatever they want? Wouldn't that lead to more money for them, which is what a business is all about?

Ultimately, it's the parents' responsibility. Theaters have incentive to regulate because their customers want the ratings to be enforced, and anyone ignoring the ratings would lose business very quickly.

And wouldn't it be significantly easier for the parent to regulate if little billy couldn't go out and purchase grand theft auto of his own free accord?

Too bad if it's easier. It's the responsibility of a parent to occasionally glance through the child's entertainment library if they feel the need to.

If that sounds too hard, please don't become a parent, you'll never survive.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Wait, Yee is a state senator now? So what, he did a shit job and wasted money, so they elect him to the freakin' SENATE?! God, my country sucks!

 

[ckam]

...No, it's not your responsibility at all. You're responsibility, at most is to spend money on the educational system in California, which by the way is failing because it doesn't have enough money.

IRONY.

 

[Yeager942]

Californians, this man is now a state senator. God damn it, I wish I was 18 so I could vote.

 

[Yan007]

I just got wind of this (Ya sorry, I don't follow the news much). I may be the only one who dares saying this but: Am I the only one NOT surprised a Chinese would be pushing for this kind of legislation?

BTW: I live/work in China right now.

 

[Freyar]

You cannot "protect the children" if your state is BROKE. Leeland Yee and Schwarzenegger really need to get a good smack in the head and understand that in order to be able to do the good that you feel you need to do, you have to have the damned RESOURCES to do it.

California was already in a really bad financial state. Yee and Schwarzenegger's blatant disregard for that fact by pushing this illegitimate bill shows that these two have no business in rational politics. Both of them should be personally liable for the outcome since both of them went on with it despite the warning that it wouldn't work.