Did you know all of these things are happening to an even greater degree in the UK? Except possibly the street gangs, gun crime obviously isn't so high with them being illegal, but there are claims that gang- and gun-related crime is going up too. Petrol is currently at £4.25 per US gallon, and has been over £4 (~$6) for several years. I won't go into detail about our economy (it's complicated), but I will quickly say: we have 1/7th of the GDP of the US, and 2/3rd of the debt. Do the maths.Sir John The Net Knight said:Roads in this state are crumbling, gas prices are outrageous($3.25/gal, which means it's around $35 US to fill my gas tank, which isn't that big.), taxes are so high that citizens and especially businesses are fleeing in droves to Nevada and Arizona. Crime is out of control in many places, (Street Gangs are everywhere in SoCal.) and the state has a financial undertow that's about to drown it in a tidal wave.
You have taken the word rigth out of my mouth.Greyfox105 said:I love Schwarzenegger.
And for this, I love him more.
I find it difficult to believe people would make it that obvious, but since I'm not there I guess I can't know for sure. Over here it isn't as obvious as that, blaming illegal immigration seems to be a knee-jerk reaction rather than based on any observations other than race. Your first post seemed to imply this too, but I apologise as you actually seem to be using evidence instead of just playing the blame game. I would also hope you are aware that not everyone who tries to screw the system is an illegal immigrant - we even have some people who have the nerve to blame immigrants as they take taxpayers money for nothing themselves!Sir John The Net Knight said:The age old argument of, "Someone else has a problem, therefore your problem is unimportant."
I'd tend to think that people from a place who has similar problems as California would have some level a sympathy, yet all you can do here is call me a racist which is patently untrue. Not every hispanic here is an illegal, that would be a ridiculously inaccurate statement along the lines of "The sky is green."
But trust me when I say after living here for 30+ years that I can tell who is an illegal and who isn't. The way they dress, the way they act, the way they gather on street corners and fling themselves at cars that stop at local businesses. These people practically are carrying Neon-signs that say "Will work under the table!" Everything I said about the way they live off public funds is true and they don't put a dime of tax dollars back in. Meanwhile, I'm abiding by the law and living in poverty.
I'm sorry if you can't understand this because either you can't see it up close or you're just too much of a bleeding-heart liberal to open your eyes to it.
I can't really say I empathize with you guys on the illegal immigrant issues, but I do know for a fact that in my country (Argentina) we've had some serious issues since around 2000 with a flood of illegal immigrants from countries in the north. I wouldn't go to the extreme to say that all are bad people or criminals, but you'd be astounded if you knew how many end in slums. They come hoping to start a better life and only find themselves living off the trash of others. It's hard to put oneself in their position.Xodion said:I find it difficult to believe people would make it that obvious, but since I'm not there I guess I can't know for sure. Over here it isn't as obvious as that, blaming illegal immigration seems to be a knee-jerk reaction rather than based on any observations other than race. Your first post seemed to imply this too, but I apologise as you actually seem to be using evidence instead of just playing the blame game. I would also hope you are aware that not everyone who tries to screw the system is an illegal immigrant - we even have some people who have the nerve to blame immigrants as they take taxpayers money for nothing themselves!Sir John The Net Knight said:The age old argument of, "Someone else has a problem, therefore your problem is unimportant."
I'd tend to think that people from a place who has similar problems as California would have some level a sympathy, yet all you can do here is call me a racist which is patently untrue. Not every hispanic here is an illegal, that would be a ridiculously inaccurate statement along the lines of "The sky is green."
But trust me when I say after living here for 30+ years that I can tell who is an illegal and who isn't. The way they dress, the way they act, the way they gather on street corners and fling themselves at cars that stop at local businesses. These people practically are carrying Neon-signs that say "Will work under the table!" Everything I said about the way they live off public funds is true and they don't put a dime of tax dollars back in. Meanwhile, I'm abiding by the law and living in poverty.
I'm sorry if you can't understand this because either you can't see it up close or you're just too much of a bleeding-heart liberal to open your eyes to it.