Scooby Doo was a parody from the very beginning

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Matthew Jabour

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Everybody remembers Scooby Doo, right? It was one of the pop-cultural milestones of our childhood, and is still going on today (in crappy reboot form, but still). Everybody loved the original show as a kid, and even some of the newer shows, which mocked the old one's tropes.

But here's the thing: The original Scooby Doo show was actually a parody of the horror movies that came before it.

Exhibit A: the monsters. Of course, this was one of the most memorable parts of the show. At the end of the day, the monster was just a man in a costume. Now, you or I probably weren't old enough to know this, but in the 50s and 60s, old monster movies, without the benefit of modern CGI, had guys in costumes that were so painfully ridiculous, it was obvious that they were simply guys in costumes. So Scooby Doo was actually making meta commentary for an audience that wasn't nearly old enough to get it.

The characters are another example. The five members of 'the gang' are the old slasher movie rogue's gallery to a T, and they act the part: The eager but clueless leader who, after showing up in an incredibly foreboding and hostile environment, idiotically suggests splitting up and sending the two comic relief characters off to die; said comic relief characters, who behave so stupidly that one of them is actually an animal; the hot chick, who might as well wear a neon sign saying 'third to die'; and the smart, shy girl, who would normally be the last survivor.

So, why did this fact get lost to the millennia? Well, the target audience was too young to get it, but they still loved it, enough to make it into a major cultural icon. And the fate of a parody show is to go on for years, making fun of any pop culture cornerstone that pops up over the years. And what happens when your parody show BECOMES a pop culture cornerstone?

That's right, the following shows based around the characters turned to self-parody, making fun of the tropes of the original show - despite the fact that those tropes were parodies in and of themselves. Oh my god, has anyone ever noticed we always split up exactly the same way? Hey, there's a character whose name is Red Herring! Get it? Hey, isn't Freddy kind of an idiot?

This is not a bad way to live; indeed, that format kept the IP alive through numerous spinoff shows, and is what most children of today, now thoroughly incapable of getting the old references of the original, love about the show. But isn't that kind of ironic? That a show that set out to make fun of old horror clichés became cliché itself? And that almost nobody got the joke?
 

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Heh, was expecting this to be a PsychoTaco thread, judging by the title, and the recent Hello Kitty stuff.
 

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I actually thought this was common knowledge though i did have to have it explained to me when i was a youngster by my grandad but still.
 

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Parody? Maybe. It certainly built on a lot of the tropes the horror genre had accumulated over the years. And as a kids cartoon it naturally played up the comedy. But it drew more from old haunted house movies than Slashers, which were just becoming a real thing in the 1960s with Halloween[footnote]Though Halloween was not the first, it took a lot of inspiration from Psycho and a Frank Castle knockoff or two. But Halloween was were a lot of the tropes we associate with slashers got codified and it really started growing into a distinct sub-genre.[/footnote] The "let's split up" thing and the "it was really a person pretending" thing go back a bit farther to. With stuff like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Dark_House , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_of_the_Vampire and The Vampire Bat [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-bUJhDx6fE] So that aspect was probably less a parody of the poor costumes used in the then-recent past but more a reuse of old tropes.


Certainly the characters got Flanderized in later incarnations. They've played around with the formula of the series a lot since the original run ended, notably by adding in real monsters from time to time.
 

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DaWaffledude said:
... Holy fuck. I need to rethink my life.
The mystery machine continues to surprise us, even decades later.

Next we'll find out why Daphne bothered traveling around with people clearly much less financially well off than her.
 

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You're right, Scooby Doo is a parody...

... of The Archie Show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archie_Show].

While it does parody several horror cliche's, it wouldn't have existed without The Archie Show to parody.
 

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Now, Thirteen Ghosts on the other hand... ugh. Flim-Flam made Scrappy look good.
Hey, hey, hey. At least Thirteen Ghosts was such a poe face parody that they brought in Vincent Prince to be the villain.
 

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Mr.Mattress said:
You're right, Scooby Doo is a parody...

... of The Archie Show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archie_Show].

While it does parody several horror cliche's, it wouldn't have existed without The Archie Show to parody.
Huh, interesting. I admit my knowledge of the Archie show is limited to the segment where they sang "Sugar Sugar" by the Archies :p lol.

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Tarathiel said:
Oi, A Pup Named Scooby-Doo was good.
Darn tootin' it was. Now, Thirteen Ghosts on the other hand... ugh. Flim-Flam made Scrappy look good.
Flim-Flam was just a... Red Herring! But seriously anything with Vincent Price can't be all bad.

Also I'm just gonna say it- I do and always have liked Scrappy-Doo



Come at me bro.
 

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Ratty said:
Mr.Mattress said:
You're right, Scooby Doo is a parody...

... of The Archie Show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archie_Show].

While it does parody several horror cliche's, it wouldn't have existed without The Archie Show to parody.
Huh, interesting. I admit my knowledge of the Archie show is limited to the segment where they sang "Sugar Sugar" by the Archies :p lol.
I know little of the Archie series and nothing about the Archie Show itself. The reason I know that the Archie Show inspired Scooby-Doo is because it's On Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo#Development] and it has verifiable sources.

Also, I personally like The 13th Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, mainly because of Vincent Price. Although I do agree, Flim Flam sucks.
 

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Mr.Mattress said:
Ratty said:
Mr.Mattress said:
You're right, Scooby Doo is a parody...

... of The Archie Show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archie_Show].

While it does parody several horror cliche's, it wouldn't have existed without The Archie Show to parody.
Huh, interesting. I admit my knowledge of the Archie show is limited to the segment where they sang "Sugar Sugar" by the Archies :p lol.
I know little of the Archie series and nothing about the Archie Show itself. The reason I know that the Archie Show inspired Scooby-Doo is because it's On Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo#Development] and it has verifiable sources.

Also, I personally like The 13th Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, mainly because of Vincent Price. Although I do agree, Flim Flam sucks.
Neat. I haven't read the Scooby-Doo wiki I'm just a long time genre fan who knows old tropes when he sees'em.
 

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Ratty said:
They've played around with the formula of the series a lot since the original run ended, notably by adding in real monsters from time to time.
I usually don't mind that. It's what made the specials...special. Besides, it makes a special more interesting if there may or may not be actual monsters running around. Kind of adds the mystery to the proceedings.
 

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Redlin5 said:
DaWaffledude said:
... Holy fuck. I need to rethink my life.
The mystery machine continues to surprise us, even decades later.

Next we'll find out why Daphne bothered traveling around with people clearly much less financially well off than her.
It is revealed on at least one occasion that Shaggy's family was stupidly wealthy as well. Apparently he just liked riding in the back of the van with his dog.
 

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Matthew Jabour said:
Everybody remembers Scooby Doo, right? It was one of the pop-cultural milestones of our childhood, and is still going on today (in crappy reboot form, but still). heavy snip
Crappy reboot form? I think you're disliking it because it's not the original. What's New Scooby Doo was fantastic, and this new show is beautiful! They establish a whole universe, an over-arching story, connections, etc. It's like the X-Files and Comic Book levels of continuity and story.

You don't like it? Cool. Your opinion, and I respect that. But give credit where credit is due: it's a better show than the original.
 

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Matthew Jabour said:
Everybody remembers Scooby Doo, right? It was one of the pop-cultural milestones of our childhood, and is still going on today (in crappy reboot form, but still). Everybody loved the original show as a kid, and even some of the newer shows, which mocked the old one's tropes.
Are you talking about What's New Scooby Doo or Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated? Because I will DEFEND Mystery Incorporated to the death as one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. There is a plot that lasts more than one episodes. Daphne and Freddy finally get some personality. It had drama. Hell

It had death, with major characters getting the axe during its second season

It knew when to have drama and when to be silly. It even made Scooby Doo a serious character when the situation called for it without making it seem silly. Seriously, if you are a fan of Scooby Doo or a fan of mystery in general, you need to see this.

OT: Cool, didn't know that.
 

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Well, first off, I need to re-watch Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island and/or Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost just to remind myself that these movies, in particular, used to scare the living shit out of me... especially when their respected plot twist do come into effect...

Second, are you telling me that any modern series such as What's New, Scooby-Doo? and Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated are crappy? I would beg to differ to a point, especially the latter series and it's unique execution overall...

Third, the only parody I know [that literally calls itself a parody] is the live-action XXX porn parody, which knew its source material in an almost surreal manner...

So, overall, I wouldn't really call the original series a "parody" in general[footnote]At least, not intentionally, though...[/footnote]... Just a comedic show that used horror concepts at the time to keep that series going for a few years prior to it's crossover movie special series (and, to a certain extent, those other Hanna-Barbera series of a similar, yet "different" fashion...), which as time went on, started to parody itself through its future [spin-off] series like A Pup Name Scooby-Doo and most of the modern Scooby-Doo movies in some way, shape, or form...
 

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It's weird because the show ran for so long while sticking to the same formula that it kind of became an unintentional self parody filled with trite and cliché moments long before the writers actually decided to start lampooning it.

To draw a parallel to something I'm more familiar with (it's been years since I've watched anything Scooby Doo related), the Loony Tunes Road Runner cartoons, which were (apparently) supposed to be a parody of shows like Tom and Jerry. I love Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner but there's no denying that the entire series pretty much hinges on the one joke: Coyote puts some elaborate trap together to catch the Road Runner, ends up eating shit. As a kid I loved the crazy contraptions and was just laughing at Coyote's misfortune but as an adult I derive a lot of humour from how silly yet predictable the outcomes of Coyote's experiments are. I'm laughing at the show but also kind of laughing at the writers.