Scorpion Vs. Predator? Sci-fi Monster Rumored as Mortal Kombat X DLC

DrunkWithPower

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I'm just going to throw something out here. WHAT if it's not actual characters but rather skins? Boon let loose with a Jax hint (Dylan) and surely Cyrax or Sektor or something cyborg Lin Kuei would be in the game. And since they are based off the Predator... there you go.

I'm betting skins but would happily lose that bet for characters.
 

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Steven Bogos said:
Who is the greatest sci-fi monster of all time? If you answered... Terminator, you're wrong
GLaDOS said:
Okay, look: We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret, but I think we can put our differences behind us; for science... you monster.
 

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Programmed_For_Damage said:
I can't remember where I read it, I too like getting into the Predator lore, but apparently the more novice the Predator, the more weaponry they carry. The pinnacle of a Predator's hunting prowess is to take an Alien queen down with only wrist blades. There seems to be an interesting dynamic suggested by the movies and books that an unblooded warrior must earn his Plasma-caster, but it is one of the first weapons they shed when they become mature and adept at hunting.
The way I understand it is that a Predator has to earn the right to use more weapons as they grow, however the fewer weapons they take on a hunt, the more honor and pride the trophies they collect are worth.

thaluikhain said:
Possibly the abomination was from one of the other predators you come across who are already dead, but the abomination was already fully grown at the end of your first mission...

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Sure, but end of the marine campaign...
Like I said, due to poor story planning, it's pretty difficult to say just when everything happens. As for the ending to the marine campaign, after watching it again just now...well apparently that's a specialized dropship because traditionally they're not equipped with the stasis pods necessary for interstellar travel. :p

And the aliens always have all the odds stacked in their favour. Either the humans are unarmed, or the aliens just happen to be in the one place it's not safe for the marines to use their guns, or a crashing dropship just happens to hit where the vehicles with all their supplies is so they've got next to no ammunition. And then the humans are ridiculously incompetently led and/or have traitors trying to kill them.
Well that's all part-and-parcel of the theme what with Weyland-Yutani always being greedy/evil bastards who end up paying for their hubris. :p

When the aliens don't have all the odds in their favour, they end up doing stuff like running headlong into the sentry guns in the hope the gun will run out of ammunition before the aliens run out of aliens.
That's the thing though...the odds were in their favor. There's so many of them that they don't mind throwing their numbers into a meat-grinder. Xenos are incredibly, and when they can't outwit a trap, they just say "screw it" and throw their numbers at the problem...and that strategy generally works. :p

For that matter, the reason the aliens are posing a threat to anyone generally starts with some humans setting things up like that for the evulz, and then not coping with what happens next. A decent Work Health and Safety inspector to look over their plans, and none of it would ever happen.
A decent Work Health and Safety inspector would see they had Xenomorphs to begin with an demand that the entire facility be shut down, abandoned, and nuked from orbit...and then a WT corporate officer would shoot him in the back of the head. :3

Any sensible person would realize that Xenomorphs are a species best left alone...like, entirely. Yet every time humans encounter Xenomorphs, it's because of WT's mad quest to capture and control them. And yet time and time again, the Xeno's prove to be absolutely uncontrollable.

I'd argue that is also underestimating the alien. Though, that's sorta what the Predators do, give the prey a chance of winning, which means sometimes they do.
It's not so much about "giving them a chance" as it is the Predator getting overconfident. In the climax to the first movie, the Predator starts spamming the Shoulder Cannon like crazy...if even one of those shots managed to hit Arnie he's done for. At the end, though, he realizes how incredibly cunning Arnie has proven to be, what a challenge he has provided, and for that reason the Predator decides that he's worth a more honorable kill instead of just getting blasted. And look at the results: even standing toe-to-toe in a fist fight, Arnie gets his ass kicked. The Predator, confident in it's win because it noticed one of the traps that Arnie led him into, fails to notice the other trap and that proves to be his downfall.

Same thing with Danny Glover in Predator 2. Confident that he's about to take Danny's head in the slaughterhouse, the Predator just kinda stalks up to him instead of going for the kill, leaving his guard down so Danny can whip out the shotty and start blasting.

Now, perhaps you could argue that the aliens are more dangerous in the form of ritualised combat the Predators tend to go for, which is fair enough, but more dangerous in a general sense...no. It's not clear how intelligent the aliens are, but they've no kind of technology of their own, which puts them at the bottom of the ladder.
Actually it is pretty clear how intelligent and thus dangerous the Xenomorphs are. Look at Resurrection: trapped in a cage in which then can be frozen if they start acting fishy, they simply sacrifice one of their buddies so his acid blood will melt through the floor. And what happens after that? I forget how many Xenos were in containment (I want to say 12)...but they're on a ship FULL of space marines, and what's the order of the day? Lock-and-load, everyone grab a motion tracker as we've got some bugs to hunt down? Nope. It's "WE'RE FUCKED! ABANDON SHIP IMMEDIATELY!"

For further evidence of their cunning and intelligence, see also: Aliens. Rather than waltzing right through the door, they come through the ceiling...ambushing the marines who had intended to ambush them.

Then there's all the AvP games where you actually play as the alien. Think about how sneaky you have to be to get past all the traps and blockades the humans set up. You're a singluar Xenomorph, and yet you carve a bloody path across the planet, even taking down multiple Predators...in a 2v1 at one point, no less.
 

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RJ 17 said:
It's not so much about "giving them a chance" as it is the Predator getting overconfident. In the climax to the first movie, the Predator starts spamming the Shoulder Cannon like crazy...if even one of those shots managed to hit Arnie he's done for. At the end, though, he realizes how incredibly cunning Arnie has proven to be, what a challenge he has provided, and for that reason the Predator decides that he's worth a more honorable kill instead of just getting blasted. And look at the results: even standing toe-to-toe in a fist fight, Arnie gets his ass kicked. The Predator, confident in it's win because it noticed one of the traps that Arnie led him into, fails to notice the other trap and that proves to be his downfall.

Same thing with Danny Glover in Predator 2. Confident that he's about to take Danny's head in the slaughterhouse, the Predator just kinda stalks up to him instead of going for the kill, leaving his guard down so Danny can whip out the shotty and start blasting.
Hmmm...not quite sure I'd interpret it that way, but maybe.

RJ 17 said:
Actually it is pretty clear how intelligent and thus dangerous the Xenomorphs are. Look at Resurrection: trapped in a cage in which then can be frozen if they start acting fishy, they simply sacrifice one of their buddies so his acid blood will melt through the floor. And what happens after that? I forget how many Xenos were in containment (I want to say 12)...but they're on a ship FULL of space marines, and what's the order of the day? Lock-and-load, everyone grab a motion tracker as we've got some bugs to hunt down? Nope. It's "WE'RE FUCKED! ABANDON SHIP IMMEDIATELY!"
Sure...because the soldiers were elsewhere not paying attention, and security was rubbish. You're on a spaceship, you could set the cage up to be ejected into space, or be not firmly attached to the ship and you need to go across on a shuttle or other pressurised transport. Alternatively, make the cell the monsters full of acid are in resistant to acid.

RJ 17 said:
For further evidence of their cunning and intelligence, see also: Aliens. Rather than waltzing right through the door, they come through the ceiling...ambushing the marines who had intended to ambush them.
I thought that was because that was the only access the humans hadn't welded shut. Again, their previous plan was "run straight into the sentry gun fire until they run out of ammo".

RJ 17 said:
Then there's all the AvP games where you actually play as the alien. Think about how sneaky you have to be to get past all the traps and blockades the humans set up. You're a singluar Xenomorph, and yet you carve a bloody path across the planet, even taking down multiple Predators...in a 2v1 at one point, no less.
Do you not also kill lots of aliens when you are a marine or predator, though?
 

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thaluikhain said:
Sure...because the soldiers were elsewhere not paying attention, and security was rubbish. You're on a spaceship, you could set the cage up to be ejected into space, or be not firmly attached to the ship and you need to go across on a shuttle or other pressurised transport. Alternatively, make the cell the monsters full of acid are in resistant to acid.
As Alien: Isolation shows us, Aliens can apparently enjoy a merry little walk through the vacuum of space. :p

Trust me my friend, on this I am absolute certain: Xenomorphs are far deadlier than humans, at least in terms of a Predator's view. Humans are considered "Soft Meat" while Xenomorphs are considered "Hard Meat", this is a direct correlation to the difficulty of hunts involving those species.

RJ 17 said:
For further evidence of their cunning and intelligence, see also: Aliens. Rather than waltzing right through the door, they come through the ceiling...ambushing the marines who had intended to ambush them.
I thought that was because that was the only access the humans hadn't welded shut. Again, their previous plan was "run straight into the sentry gun fire until they run out of ammo".
The marines had set up a bottle-neck and they did weld the door shut, however the Xenomorphs had proven themselves capable of busting through such doors. Even if they went through the ceiling because there was no other accessible paths, they still had the cunning to say "screw this, guys, lets go through the ceiling." NINJA ALIENS!!! :p

As for the sentry gun, once a Xenomorph hive has been established and has a decent - by Xenomorph standards - population, they no longer have to focus on stealth and cunning. At this point, their numbers become their greatest strength...they simply overwhelm the opposition. As such they have no problem with just throwing numbers at an obstacle until it's overcome...in this case: just keep throwing Xenos at the sentry guns until they run out of ammo. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but I'm pretty sure once the gun is out of ammo, they confirm the the Xenos have infiltrated through those choke-points the guns were protecting.

RJ 17 said:
Then there's all the AvP games where you actually play as the alien. Think about how sneaky you have to be to get past all the traps and blockades the humans set up. You're a singluar Xenomorph, and yet you carve a bloody path across the planet, even taking down multiple Predators...in a 2v1 at one point, no less.
Do you not also kill lots of aliens when you are a marine or predator, though?
This is certainly true...but look at the over-all situation going on: everything is completely screwed and the Xenomorph infestation is in full-swing. Regardless of how many you kill, the Xenos have pretty much won. Yes, I know a marine solo's the Queen, but in the grand scheme of things all that would do - in theory - is buy some time. The reason #6 (the Xeno you play as) goes into hibernation when the Queen dies is so that it can molt and morph into a Queen itself. This is why WT wanted to capture it in the first place: to get their hands on a soon-to-be new Queen that, if left alone, would have assumed control of all the Xenos in that hive.
 

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As much as I am a fan of both Spawn and Predator (more so the latter) I just don't want to see them in Mortal Kombat X; I'd much preferred one of the many MK characters to fill the roles for DLC.