SDCC 2014: Dawn of Justice's Wonder Woman Revealed

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Burnouts3s3 said:
I actually expected a lot worse.

To keep this on topic, I wonder why Snyder and his team ditched the pants with the rumor floating around.
Because the trousers are fucking terrible.

OT: I like it, it's totally badass. My only complaints are the heels on those sabatons and the tiara should be pushed up just a tad so it's flush with her hairline but you can't have everything and those are minor gripes. Also, remove the damn filter! However, Gal Gadot still doesn't look like an Amazonion warrior, she's still way too skinny. And she's....really not looking great in that picture either, I know she's prettier normally, but that's not a flattering facial expression.

Frankly I don't really like Wonder Womans standard outfit anyway, red leather boots and those underwear? Look it was great at the time, but it doesn't make sense anymore, especially with how much she's developed from the original character. WW should be wearing Amazonion Armor, not an american flag. WW's standard outfit isn't even consistant with the other Amazons, who are all greco roman with the robes and armor, wheras WWs is this anomolous corset and blue stars underwear with red leather boots.

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Eri said:
Not a great choice. Not only does she not look muscular like she should, she also needs a bigger bust. Wonder Woman is a D cup, if not DD.
oh come off it.

my 1st serious girlfriend had DDs, suffered from back problems due to them and had to get bras that claimed they we're designed using the same engineering principles and the Forth bridge...

and "Amazons" infamously supposedly cut their breasts off ffs...

here's a tip: the commonwealth games are on atm. go look at the athletes. that's the kind of shape a real warrior would be in.

not some gravity defying page 3 girl fantasy.
You can argue all you want. I'm the one with years of comics behind my side. She looks like what she looks like.
And what she looks like doesn't exist in the real world, I'm all for sticking to the source material but it's pure fantasy on the part of the artists. Women who are muscled naturally have smaller breasts because the fat reserves have turned into muscle, Female runners are essentially flat chested, Muscle women who want to retain their breasts either have to go smaller in terms of muscle, or have boob implants.

It's completely unfeasable to be able to find an actress with big fuck off breasts, the musculature, the beauty, the height and the acting ability necessary to pull of WW. Heck up until recently, she's mostly had the origin where she was SCULPTED out of clay. Making her appearance not even natural within the world she lives in. Even now, she's the daughter of Zeus; a god and one of the most beautiful women on the planet, making her not even human. Even if there is some woman that's close to it, can she act?

Now I don't like Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, but that's because she's still stick thin and not too good of an actor, and frankly I can work with them not being totally fuck off breasts if the actress looks and acts like an Amazonion Warrior.
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1. The heels are wedges. Most girls I know say big heels are much easier to walk in than stiletto heels - they can even run etc. in wedges

2. How comes a character is sexualised SOLELY because she wears high heels? We get women all of the time telling them they wear heels for themselves, to feel empowered. To simply say "heels are worn for sex appeal and the titillation of men" is in fact a very sexist thing to say. Or whenever you see a woman wearing heels do you think "Oh boy I am so glad she dressed like that to turn me on today" ???
We're not on about the social implications of women in the real world, we're on about Wonder Woman, Princess Diana of the Amazonions from the secret Island of Thamasceria with no men on it.

Can they sprint for extended periods, fight, land on thos heels after doing a back flip or being thrown from the sky and do all the crazy shit Wonder Woman would be expected to do? No, of course they fucking can't. Due to the fact that they're no good for doing stuff that requires excellent footing, which everyone and their grandmother knows, the designers have clearly stuck her in them for the sex factor. Her personallity and background is not one that has the need or want for high heels.

Wonder Woman is supposed to be an Amazonion Warrior and the Goddess of War (now), she also is from an island with no men, she doesn't need to feel empowered because there's noone to feel empowered over. She can bench press a truck without breaking a sweat, fly, go toe to toe with Superman, is super tough, super quick, fight with all kinds of martial weapons and is a demigoddess. But the heels make her feel empowered, right?
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
Because DC thinks colors aren't "mature".
This is made by Warner Brothers that owns DC? Though, this costume looks a lot like what we're seeing in the games.



Though Paramount was taught a lesson on Star Trek. They thought the original uniforms were to garish for the big screen. They were wrong.




I like the costume fine though, better than this:



The problem is Gidot. She looks like an 8 year old boy, rather than a wonder woman. Pity. I thought the costume would help, but no. The sort of frame only a pedophile or Hollywood producer could love on a Wonder Woman.
 

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Looks pretty badass and fine to me. Keeps with her look, the only thing that bothers me is her heels....function wise. Then again she is that much of a badass she can kick ass even in heels
 

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Looks fine enough to me, but didn't really have any expectations either way, since I know little about her various outfits. In the end, if I saw that picture with no context, I can easily say that it is Wonder Woman. I guess we'll be getting the designs for the other heroes soon? Or is Wonder Woman the only cameo that will have her in her actual Super Hero outfit?
 

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bug_of_war said:
Her posture, her look, the background, the colour, it all suggests (key word here) that she's a good character. Her look shows a determination, her stance shows a willingness to fight, the background shows that the character is most likely in a battle and the colour can show that the battle may be one that carries a certain amount of weight to the story. You are very much welcome to say that that is all a stretch, which is fine.
I feel like this is a very tautological statement. I'm asking why she's willing to fight, and your answer seems to be, "Because she's determined to fight." I'm not trying to make fun of you, but I really don't get where you're coming from on this one. Do you and I maybe think "motivation" means different things?

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But if you do, then why is it not a stretch to say that her wearing high heels immediately makes her nothing more than a sexualised character who will do nothing but strike sexy poses so as that to get a rise out of young men?
I...never said that, so I'm not sure why you're asking me; but at a guess, I'd say people think that because of the miniskirt, the lift-and-separate breastplate that rather than protecting the chest by deflecting damage would channel an incoming strike directly into her sternum, and/or the fact that the arteries in her throat and thighs as well as her entire head are unprotected by this armor. It all kind of implies a need to put sex appeal over practicality, particularly when you compare her to Batman, whose armor looks almost like tactical military gear under the cowl.

bug_of_war said:
Though she does have her sword drawn, she's not surrounded by dead bodies.
I will fully understand if you disagree with me on this one, but I think that shape in the background looks like the frame of a large airplane, one that's been split open and spread wide (as if by a person with super-strength who can fly and has a sword, let's say). I really get the feeling all that smoke and flame is caused by an aircraft she downed, but obviously, given how obscured the background is, I can only say that's what it looks like to me and have to allow for different interpretations.

That's not really my point, though. My point is that you insist she's the spirit of truth because she's ready to fight for her beliefs. I am asking questions because I don't understand your logic, and am trying to find a line of thought that will help me comprehend. What about her having beliefs means she's the spirit of truth? Shit, Saddam Hussein had beliefs, but I don't think anyone's accusing him of being an avatar of honesty.

Adamantium93 said:
Wonder Woman is not a super spy trained in the arts of espionage and seduction from age eight.
ewwwwwwww

Yeah, I know you didn't write the character, but: ewwwwwwww
 

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Huh, I like this design. It's fairly faithful to her classical appearance, but the detail that stands out to me is the tunic; it makes sense, and I'm glad they didn't try to put up a pseudo-feminist image by giving her a pair of pants and a jacket like you would see on a biker, despite the fact that she's supposed to be an ancient Greek warrior.
 

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Everything's brown and her face is weird, like a horse.

CoD's Sarah Jessica Parker?
 

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Regardless of the look of the costume, at least we can all breathe a sigh of relief knowing that they are actually going to make her a character and not, regular looking lady that suddenly has superpowers route that many feared.
 

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Am I the only one who likes the boots, wedges and all? I know they aren't practical, but neither is a cape or a vision limiting cowl, so for all the body armor and extra pockets Batman's rocking, it's still anything but practical in an overall sense.

I keep thinking this looks more like the Clash of the Titans reboot armor than anything else. That's not even a complaint, exactly, just a surprise. As for the color scheme we're seeing... eh, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I doubt this is fully representative, because as others have said, color grading. I suppose a monochrome leather and bronze design would significantly cut down on similarities with Superman's uniform and make the inevitable Justice League group shot look a bit more varied, but even a little red and gold in the belt, or some vivid blue inlays through the recessed stripes in the breast plate could go a long way in making this feel less generic.

If anything, the dull color scheme is just making me think of Xena, and comparing Gadot's slender frame to the comparatively buff Lucy Lawless circa the latter half of the 90s isn't helping. No, being big and muscular isn't a prerequisite for these sort of movies, particularly when you can shrug it all of BECAUSE MAGIC or whatever, but when the rest of your characters are massive meat-bags, the slimmer build on Gadot is only going to look a bit silly by comparison. If they focus more on speed and agility the build wouldn't be an issue, but Snyder likes his combat dull and heavy, and now she's sporting a sword, so... I'unno, man. If she doesn't look any worse than the twig thin Milla Jolovich does in the twenty or so Resident Evil movies, I can live with that.

There's also talk of Batman sporting the Frank Miller power armor, so it's not like there may not be a costume change for WW in the flick? I'd be fine with this being a "classic" armor from her Amazonian origins and a contemporary outfit switch more in line with the New 52 design. Superman didn't even wear his iconic outfit 'till half way through Man of Steel, and Zod ditched the big, bulky armor for a much more sane combat ready costume only for the final reel. Only time will tell.
 

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Far be it from me to judge an entire movie by a single image, but...

The Wonder Woman I see here looks like a discount Kristen Stewart with that blank look on her face.

She doesn't look like someone who's wearing that armor with confidence. She -looks- like someone who was paid to strike a pose and just so happens to be wearing it. Badly. (Let's not get into the details about why I think the whole costume is ugly. That would take a while.)

If they wanted good looks and an action background, they could've just looked up Michelle Rodriguez. But no... no, just find yourself a hot model with no notable action background to give the most important female hero in history a presence in the one movie that will define DC comic's ability to match Marvel in the cinema for the next ten years.

Go ahead. Whatever.
 

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So should I assume most people posting didn't bother reading the article, or most people posting don't know what "Sepia tone filter" means. Either way, there's no proof in that picture that the final design will be brown or colorless.
Well if Man of Steel is anything to go by then yeah, it will be drab and colourless.
 

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whats the deal with sucking out all color from super hero/comic book character costumes?
making everything they wear darker or just black does not make them better... did we learn nothing from the first X-men movies? (1st class did better)
Probably just don't know wonder woman enough, but i remember bright colors on her outfit. I don't recall an all copper uniform. meh.
 

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Question - if people didn't know that was a picture of Wonder Woman, would they have guessed who it was?
Because I sure as hell wouldn't. I feel there is nothing particularly "Wonder Woman" about that actor or the costume.

She just looks like standard chick #9817 wearing female fantasy armor, attempting to strike a heroic pose but failing to make any impact. She doesn't look strong or beautiful...the Queen of the Amazons is supposed to be beautiful, strong and imposing.
Superman and Batman certainly look up to the task of playing their part, but this Wonder Woman just looks out of place.

Sleekit said:
Eri said:
Not a great choice. Not only does she not look muscular like she should, she also needs a bigger bust. Wonder Woman is a D cup, if not DD.
oh come off it.

my 1st serious girlfriend had DDs, suffered from back problems due to them and had to get bras that claimed they we're designed using the same engineering principles and the Forth bridge...
I think your girlfriend's back problems wouldn't be so much of an issue if she could lift cars and fly :D

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and is a lesbian to boot
Wait she is? o_O

That's AWESOME.
 

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M-m-m-monster-MEH.

I don't much care for the GRIMDARK direction DC is taking. Is it to differentiate themselves from Marvel, or do they actually believe it appeals to anybody? Sepia is so last decade.

As for Wonder Woman herself - all I can say is, I hope this chick can act, because she sure as hell doesn't look the part. I'm no comics geek but isn't WW meant to be basically the female equivalent of Superman? Raven-haired, beautiful, uber-capable, Amazonian build, and so on? What we have here is the analogue of casting Justin Bieber as Thor; it's underwhelming. WW should be a woman, not a girl in above-average cosplay.

I also find it a bit weird that the most well-known female superhero is ostensibly going to be playing third fiddle to Batman and Supes in their face-off. Seems like a waste of a perfectly good standalone origin story with WW as the lead.
 

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JimB said:
I feel like this is a very tautological statement. I'm asking why she's willing to fight, and your answer seems to be, "Because she's determined to fight." I'm not trying to make fun of you, but I really don't get where you're coming from on this one. Do you and I maybe think "motivation" means different things?
Well, I don't know why she's willing to fight, but from the look on her face it seems as though she is willing to do so. I think we may both be arguing different points here cause I think I'm just as lost as you are at this point.

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I...never said that, so I'm not sure why you're asking me; but at a guess, I'd say people think that because of the miniskirt, the lift-and-separate breastplate that rather than protecting the chest by deflecting damage would channel an incoming strike directly into her sternum, and/or the fact that the arteries in her throat and thighs as well as her entire head are unprotected by this armor. It all kind of implies a need to put sex appeal over practicality, particularly when you compare her to Batman, whose armor looks almost like tactical military gear under the cowl.
Then why are the heels a big deal? You just pointed out numerous amounts of things that are poor choices for an outfit when going to fight, so why are the heels the part that is so wrong? I mean, I get that she's supposed to be more durable and stronger than Olympic (heh) level athletes and that she has worn more revealing clothing in other incarnations, but my main question is why is THIS incarnation so reviled at? Is it cause Zack Snyder is doing it? Is it cause some people have less than favourable memories of Man of Steel? I just think this is getting a lot more flack than it should.


JimB said:
I will fully understand if you disagree with me on this one, but I think that shape in the background looks like the frame of a large airplane, one that's been split open and spread wide (as if by a person with super-strength who can fly and has a sword, let's say). I really get the feeling all that smoke and flame is caused by an aircraft she downed, but obviously, given how obscured the background is, I can only say that's what it looks like to me and have to allow for different interpretations.
That's not really my point, though. My point is that you insist she's the spirit of truth because she's ready to fight for her beliefs. I am asking questions because I don't understand your logic, and am trying to find a line of thought that will help me comprehend. What about her having beliefs means she's the spirit of truth? Shit, Saddam Hussein had beliefs, but I don't think anyone's accusing him of being an avatar of honesty.
The background is quite dark and blurry, but I can kinda see how you'd see that.

As for the other paragraph, you insisted that Wonder Woman is the spirit of truth, and when I was told that that is what she's supposed to represent and looked at the photo again, she does look quite heroic. So using information I had been given, looking at a photo and being sound of mind enough to be able to tell what a person's stance and facial features moved in a position that most people would logically be able to call a heroic/strong/admirable/trustworthy/powerful/graceful/good person (well, character). So yeah, given knowledge of the character plus being able to dissect a photo's elements gave me that impression.