Security Firm CEO Quits Due to Anonymous Attack

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I love how all you idiots think Anon doesn't have some sort of structural hierarchy. They thrive and get kudos for not having a structure. That's their big thing. Truth is, none of the stuff they pull off would be able to be done without a few being the boss. It may have been true around the start of things, but now, as big as they are and the things they are doing, there is no way a random group of people are doing this.

And, no, I don't like Anon. Or wikileaks. Guess what, releasing peoples emails, address's, phone numbers, and social security numbers is not a good thing. There is a reason the FBI has been after them. And yes, wikileaks IS to blame as well. It exists for the sole purpose to be used in this fashion.

Edit: Listen to the one who speaks above me. For that is truth.
 

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UrKnightErrant said:
Dastardly said:
Greg Tito said:
Man, some of you people amaze me.

Yeah, it appears as though this company was doing things that weren't quite "on the level." Not illegal, but likely not ethical.

But this guy? He's a real person with a face and a family. And a bunch of online fucks messed up his life, while the rest of you cheer. He's not some video game boss downed with cunning raid strategy. He's a real person, and they really fucked up his very real shit.

All for what? So they can keep hiding their real faces so that they don't have to face the consequences of the actually illegal and unethical shit they've pulled?

Oh, he wears a suit. Oh, his paycheck is bigger than ours. So that means it's okay to hate him--he's the big bad enemy.

READ CAREFULLY: I'm not all that upset about them revealing the company e-mails that implicate the company in shady dealings. I still despise the methods Anonymous uses and the cowardice they embody, but at least in this sense they were attacking a company and discrediting the information that company spreads. Hell, even Barr was only going to professionally discredit his target, allegedly.

But then they went after a man's personal life. Not his professional one. And yet people cheer like this is some kind of idealistic victory for the "little guy?" Seriously, some of you need to get over your "Internet Batman Fanfiction" erection.
Oh please. They didn't do anything to him that he wasn't making a living doing to other people. And they are accountable to the law. These kids could do some serious hard time if they're caught, and they know it. Call it what you like, but somehow "cowardice" just doesn't work for me.

Drabonnn have you ever heard the expression "the pot calling the kettle black"? If you really believe that hacking requires some kind of a hierarchical command structure you're in good company with the rest of us idiots.
I'll admit I don't know much about hacking. But I still don't, for a second, believe that they don't have some sort of hierarchy. But what they do is wrong. I haven't followed this whole story through, but from what it seems is this guy found out the names of some anon members and was going to expose them? And so they fucked up his life for it? Yeah, sounds awesome. They should totally be considered hero's.
 

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jebussaves88 said:
Again, I come on this site for gaming related escapism, and I'm brought back crashing down to Earth with something that belongs on a general news site. Seriously, why can't the Escapist go back to just specialising in something rather than clawing at anything remotely technology related to get in page views?

I'm no fan of Jim Sterling's on Destructoid, but this video of his says it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGK037KOKo
Uh, thought the Escapist was a website about pop culture with a tendency for video games and tech.
 

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ouch111 said:
jebussaves88 said:
Again, I come on this site for gaming related escapism, and I'm brought back crashing down to Earth with something that belongs on a general news site. Seriously, why can't the Escapist go back to just specialising in something rather than clawing at anything remotely technology related to get in page views?

I'm no fan of Jim Sterling's on Destructoid, but this video of his says it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGK037KOKo
Uh, thought the Escapist was a website about pop culture with a tendency for video games and tech.
That's one way to describe it now. I'd be harsher, personally.
 

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This entire thing is incredibly silly.

Is it bad that the first thing I thought when I reached the end was that since his druid is only 80, he hasn't played since the expansion, and doesn't really count for gamer cred?

Edit: fsking quote pyramids. Never mind.
 

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jebussaves88 said:
ouch111 said:
Uh, thought the Escapist was a website about pop culture with a tendency for video games and tech.
That's one way to describe it now. I'd be harsher, personally.
I wasn't being negative. The site IS called the Escapist. Movies, gadgets and comics are all considered escapism in my book, not just video games.
 

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Oh please. They didn't do anything to him that he wasn't making a living doing to other people. And they are accountable to the law. These kids could do some serious hard time if they're caught, and they know it. Call it what you like, but somehow "cowardice" just doesn't work for me.
1. Prove it. Prove that he made a living personally attacking other people and publicly displaying sensitive personal information all over the internet. We can already prove that Anon did that, but where's the proof that he did?

2. You aren't sure what "accountable to the law" means. If you're hiding from the law, you're not allowing yourself to be held accountable. They are hiding from the rightful consequences of their actions while simultaneously telling others they need to be held accountable. This makes them hypocrites as well.
 

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I don't feel happy about the personal damage done to him. But he played a risky game, doing you know illegal stuff, so it's his own goddamn fault.
 

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ouch111 said:
jebussaves88 said:
Again, I come on this site for gaming related escapism, and I'm brought back crashing down to Earth with something that belongs on a general news site. Seriously, why can't the Escapist go back to just specialising in something rather than clawing at anything remotely technology related to get in page views?

I'm no fan of Jim Sterling's on Destructoid, but this video of his says it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGK037KOKo
Uh, thought the Escapist was a website about pop culture with a tendency for video games and tech.
We got several writers dedicated to just doing game-related articles. We got atleast three video-reviewers working on nothing but videogames. We got forums for video-games, and forums for playing games.
..We also got a news forum, and alot of people like to read and comment on it. So if people don't like this part, just ignore it and focus on the games?

I don't see the problem.
 

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I'm shocked at the ignorance in this thread of the corruption within the powerholders of this country. Anon is acting like heroes. Dirty, ball-punching heroes, but as far as I know, Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly was pretty much everyone's favorite anti-hero.

You know what, Anon is exactly like Mal at this point.
 

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Realitycrash said:
ouch111 said:
jebussaves88 said:
Again, I come on this site for gaming related escapism, and I'm brought back crashing down to Earth with something that belongs on a general news site. Seriously, why can't the Escapist go back to just specialising in something rather than clawing at anything remotely technology related to get in page views?

I'm no fan of Jim Sterling's on Destructoid, but this video of his says it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGK037KOKo
Uh, thought the Escapist was a website about pop culture with a tendency for video games and tech.
We got several writers dedicated to just doing game-related articles. We got atleast three video-reviewers working on nothing but videogames. We got forums for video-games, and forums for playing games.
..We also got a news forum, and alot of people like to read and comment on it. So if people don't like this part, just ignore it and focus on the games?

I don't see the problem.
I'm merely pointing out that I think the problem with the Escapist these days is it's spreading to little butter over too much toast. It's doing too many things without doing anything particularly well any more, and much of its video content has either grown stagnant, or is a recent addition which was never particularly good anyway. Top 5 lists video for example; let's get a reasonably good looking blond girl to do Top 5 lists. Ok, it's game related, but it isn't exactly pushing new frontiers in video game journalism. In its heyday, the addition of Zero Punctuation made this site something special, and the community forums were one of the better ones out there. These days, there seems to be too much emphasis on just broadly reporting anything that might get page views. I mean, what does Anon attacks have to do with Escapism in any way, shape or form? None. Zero Punctuation's emphasis on "immersion" in games was a theme that seemed to continue throughout the site. Now, it's all politics and shit-stirring, adding extra ammunition to potentially controversial cases, like the School Shooter Mod. If the Escapist hadn't reported anything on it, I'm pretty sure it would be pretty damn irrelevant, but now their page views have tripled. And including Zynga in their MM competition just to get extra page views is shameless.
I would say this is fast becoming the Tabloid of video game sites. Which is a shame, because I used to have a lot of respect for this site.
 

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jebussaves88 said:
Realitycrash said:
ouch111 said:
jebussaves88 said:
Again, I come on this site for gaming related escapism, and I'm brought back crashing down to Earth with something that belongs on a general news site. Seriously, why can't the Escapist go back to just specialising in something rather than clawing at anything remotely technology related to get in page views?

I'm no fan of Jim Sterling's on Destructoid, but this video of his says it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGK037KOKo
Uh, thought the Escapist was a website about pop culture with a tendency for video games and tech.
We got several writers dedicated to just doing game-related articles. We got atleast three video-reviewers working on nothing but videogames. We got forums for video-games, and forums for playing games.
..We also got a news forum, and alot of people like to read and comment on it. So if people don't like this part, just ignore it and focus on the games?

I don't see the problem.
Top 5 lists video for example; let's get a reasonably good looking blond girl to do Top 5 lists. Ok, it's game related, but it isn't exactly pushing new frontiers in video game journalism.
Exactly why I have never, ever watched a single episode of it. I'm sorry, but I refuse to partake in anything that just markets the female doing something about videogames. You don't SEE Yatzee doing ZP, you don't SEE the guys doing Extra Credits, or Unskippable, or..Any of these reviews, now that I think of it, except just this one. But the blame is to fall on the internet-dweebs that are easily fooled. Not the Escapist itself (Afterall, if noone watched it, it wouldn't be there).
These days, there seems to be too much emphasis on just broadly reporting anything that might get page views. I mean, what does Anon attacks have to do with Escapism in any way, shape or form? None.
Sorry mate, but the blame one again goes to the people that are watching this stuff. The Escapist still has a shitload of game-related articles, but these things pop up on the news because there is a huge demand for it. You can always chose not to watch it.
 

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Realitycrash said:
Maybe I just expected the Escapist to have a little more integrity, and to not sell itself out for page views. After all, Extra Credits (who I'll admit to not being fans of) demands integrity from game developers (see their recent EA related video, where they slam EA for being a bit over zealous with their marketing campaigns), and yet the very site it belongs to will sell its left bollock for a few thousand page views on some dope who said something on Fox News, or some actor who died.
 

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jebussaves88 said:
Realitycrash said:
Maybe I just expected the Escapist to have a little more integrity, and to not sell itself out for page views. After all, Extra Credits (who I'll admit to not being fans of) demands integrity from game developers (see their recent EA related video, where they slam EA for being a bit over zealous with their marketing campaigns), and yet the very site it belongs to will sell its left bollock for a few thousand page views on some dope who said something on Fox News, or some actor who died.
Check the average forum-thread that gets most views. Guess what it is about? "Sooo..Another sex question" or "Hey, is Pedophilia really THAT bad?", etc insert-shock-value-here. Even though we have rules that specify that you can't create a thread just for shock-value to get your "Hot topic" badge or W/ever, people still do it, and get away with it, because they are the ones getting all the posts/views.
Sorry mate, but we get the Escapist we deserve. If people wouldn't watch it, it wouldn't be there.
 

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Bet he was pressured into resigning. Funny thing. I was really expecting them to at least stand up and try to fight back.

Kinda scary though, we're not too far from Anonymous going after a government.