Sega Has a Bayonetta Countdown

[CrystalShadow]

Granted someone could pound into their skull that there is relatively low overlap statistically between WiiU/Switch owners and Steam users compared to the other consoles. That however would entail Nintendo's geriatric higher management learning the shibboleth that is the internet. More likely that Japan elects Godzilla as Prime Minister.

Really? Because my (admittedly totally anecdotal) experience shows that if anyone is going to do both PC AND Console gaming, a Nintendo system is more likely than anything else.

The reason for which should be obvious when you consider that the other consoles are far more comparable to weak PC's and also more likely to get the exact same games.
Why have both a PC and a PS4 if most of the games are the same?

Of course, statistics are kinda problematic anyway here.
Wii U owners are rare in general. From pure statistics alone, even if Wii U owners are twice as likely to be PC gamers as the owners of any other console...
That still means there are twice as many people that would own both a PS4 and a PC as those that would own a Wii U and a PC.
(because there are nearly 4 times as many PS4's around.)


A switch port seems more likely... But who can say.
It's really down to what, precisely, the agreement between Platinum and Nintendo actually was.

And... Also... Bayonetta 2 sold poorly. No shit. There's roughly 12.5 million Wii U's in the world.
Bayonetta 1 is available on Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U

The people potentially able to have bought the original Bayonetta is roughly 180 million.

The number that could have bought Bayonetta 2 is 12.5 million.

It logically follows that even if there are no demographic shifts between consoles whatsoever, and no differences in the opinion of the games relative to one another...
The first game should have about 15 times the sales of the second.

That's not a surprise, that's blindingly obvious from the consequences of the systems it was available on.

You could ask why the Wii U sold so poorly, but the follow-on consequences for a system exclusive should be pretty obvious.

 

[Mechamorph]

Of course, statistics are kinda problematic anyway here.
Wii U owners are rare in general. From pure statistics alone, even if Wii U owners are twice as likely to be PC gamers as the owners of any other console...
That still means there are twice as many people that would own both a PS4 and a PC as those that would own a Wii U and a PC.
(because there are nearly 4 times as many PS4's around.)

Yes, I know what you mean. I was not speaking about comparative statistics (ie what proportion of people who own both a console and Steam own a Nintendo console) but absolute statistics (what proportion of people who use Steam also own a Nintendo console and vice versa). That would likely be the statistic that suits would use for their argument and both of the previous Nintendo console play merry havoc on statistical analysis. Steam has an estimated 125 million active (logged in the last two weeks) accounts. The WiiU sold 12.5 million units so there would be at most 10% of Steam users that also own a WiiU. Potentially the other 90% are a market for a WiiU game like Bayonetta 2. While the Wii sold about 100 million units, many of those were casual gamers who did not also use Steam which skews the statistics as well. The percentage of Wii owners who also use Steam is likely a bit wonky as well. Thus it could be tough to make an accurate assessment for the bean counters of what proportion of Steam users would also (eventually) own a Nintendo Switch. Fingers crossed that Bayonetta 1 comes onto Steam, sells enough copies for Platinum Games to throw a brick of money Nintendo's way to get Bayonetta 2 on Steam and that the combined revenue is enough to start funding for Bayonetta 3.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Of course, statistics are kinda problematic anyway here.
Wii U owners are rare in general. From pure statistics alone, even if Wii U owners are twice as likely to be PC gamers as the owners of any other console...
That still means there are twice as many people that would own both a PS4 and a PC as those that would own a Wii U and a PC.
(because there are nearly 4 times as many PS4's around.)

Yes, I know what you mean. I was not speaking about comparative statistics (ie what proportion of people who own both a console and Steam own a Nintendo console) but absolute statistics (what proportion of people who use Steam also own a Nintendo console and vice versa). That would likely be the statistic that suits would use for their argument and both of the previous Nintendo console play merry havoc on statistical analysis. Steam has an estimated 125 million active (logged in the last two weeks) accounts. The WiiU sold 12.5 million units so there would be at most 10% of Steam users that also own a WiiU. Potentially the other 90% are a market for a WiiU game like Bayonetta 2. While the Wii sold about 100 million units, many of those were casual gamers who did not also use Steam which skews the statistics as well. The percentage of Wii owners who also use Steam is likely a bit wonky as well. Thus it could be tough to make an accurate assessment for the bean counters of what proportion of Steam users would also (eventually) own a Nintendo Switch. Fingers crossed that Bayonetta 1 comes onto Steam, sells enough copies for Platinum Games to throw a brick of money Nintendo's way to get Bayonetta 2 on Steam and that the combined revenue is enough to start funding for Bayonetta 3.

Yeah, they would look at that no doubt. Absolutes are what matter for sales, which is true.
The Wii and Wii U are a huge mess in terms of that kind of stuff. XD

The Switch is an unknown at this point but apparently a month in it's hit 5 million units.

But as I learnt with another subject, when trying to predict longterm sales, the first month is basically meaningless.
In fact, I couldn't find much that meaningfully predicted longterm results at any time earlier than 6 months in.
(and the switch has been out for about 6 weeks)

For comparison - Xbox One, Wii U and PS4 sales looked near enough identical for the first 6 months of the life of all 3 consoles...
Past 6 months you start to see the trends.
(though there ARE exceptions. The 3ds vastly outsold what it's 6 month sales would suggest it should have.)