Self Respect vs. Love

[Alakaizer]

So I saw this movie about a week ago, loved it, been mulling it over in my head. I realized that one of my favorite bits in it was when the main character tries do something for love, fails, tries to do it out of self-respect, and succeeds. This made me immensely happy, since so much fiction is based around love conquering all, and it was nice to see that love isn't the be-all end-all of the universe. Thoughts, discussion?

 

[Shockolate]

Let me guess. Scott Pilgrim?

I don't have either, so I wouldn't know....

 

[Cherry Cola]

I don't really care which one of them is the succeeding formula in a film, as long as it's executed properly.

For example, no amount of self-respect can top a good romance in my eyes, but when it's nothing special, I'll enjoy the self-respect more.

 

[Thunderhorse31]

I would think the one (respect) needs to precede the other (love). Otherwise, what you end up with is probably just emotional attachment/instability.

That said, "love" can be pretty damn powerful, which explains its use (and overuse) in every other movie.

And yes, that was Scott Pilgrim...

 

[burningdragoon]

Self-respect is a rock solid foundation. Love... likely won't be as strong without it. Sure it is was nice to have self-respect be the factor that makes the guy in this movie you speak of succeed for a change, but I wouldn't have liked it as much if...

Spoiler

Scott didn't go off with Ramona at the end

...severely disappointed even.

edit: Yeah that post above me said it >.<

 

[monstersquad]

I would think the one (respect) needs to precede the other (love). Otherwise, what you end up with is probably just emotional attachment/instability.

That said, "love" can be pretty damn powerful, which explains its use (and overuse) in every other movie.

And yes, that was Scott Pilgrim...

Give this person a philisophical cigar. That is the crux of the matter, and I couldn't have said it better myself. So much of what people call love these days is extreme infatuation coupled with co-dependency issues. Don't believe me? Just ask every single girl my friend Justin's gone out with. This is the formula, he meets girl, has sex with girl.
Girl (who is only just barely cognisant of their own sexuality) equates sex with love.

Friend and girl move in together, wherever that may be, start fighting around the 6 month mark, drag relationship far longer than it should, because they're now financially as well as emotionally and sexually co-dependent. Break up very horribly. So now the person that they "loved" has become a hated enemy. How is that love?

 

[Zeromaeus]

I enjoyed that bit. Of course I don't think very highly of "love" so I'm a bit biased. I also found it hilarious that in the stats that appeared at the bottom, self respect had a much higher intelligence modifier.