Sentenced to Life/exicution

[Centarius38]

ok now the title is a little weird so i will explain myself
throughout life people have been given the penalty to life in prison the thing i dont get is that if they are put in prison for life why dont we kill them.
the person wont come out of jail anytime and we can save on food power and every other resource by killing them.
so my question is am i saying something smart or is there something i am not getting.

 

[JRCB]

It's really unethical, because killing people is wrong. It also makes us no worse than the murderers.

Oh, and there is a little thing called being wrongly accused. People have received life sentences, only for more evidence to show that the person is innocent.

 

[orangebandguy]

You remind me of that child in 'Outnumbered' I don't know if anyone has seen it?

And no we can't just kill them, it's unethical. Unless you're a utilitarian or Hitler.

 

[TheLastCylon]

Because killing people is bad.

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

he is going to die, but not before he spends the remainders of his days in jail before dying in one of many various ways, such as suicide or shanking or other such things.

It's really unethical, because killing people is wrong. It also makes us no worse than the murderers.

Oh, and there is a little thing called being wrongly accused. People have received life sentences, only for more evidence to show that the person is innocent.

True on both accounts, plus I would like to add that not only is killing wrong, it tends to be frowned upon by the general public. Life sentences sound better to the public and media and such than just killing them.

By your logic, Mr OP, we might as well save even more resources and just hang them or cut off their heads or something.

 

[Insanum]

Keeping people in prison uses resources, But for people that are serving "life" only serve 25 years approximately.

Also, Miscarrages of justice are a big grey area.

 

[dududf]

OP I'd add into your arguement that we spend grotesque amounts of money on these people, only for the majority of them to come out of prison as better criminal.

So essentially, Tax Dollars go to educating Criminals as to how NOT to get caught, or other things (like killing the people in their sleep as you rob their house is a good way to cover your tracks).

*Edit

That being said, I don't thinking offing their 'ead will better it. Just refine the jail system and hell profit from it, use them as workers to pay for their own expenses.

 

[Centarius38]

the reason i kind of write this is because i kind of like a world like in the movie starship troopers (not the whole giant bug fighting although it will be kinda cool) but the justice system and things you do wrong you are punished for extremely which is kinda how i think people will learn

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

the reason i kind of write this is because i kind of like a world like in the movie starship troopers (not the whole giant bug fighting although it will be kinda cool) but the justice system and things you do wrong you are punished for extremely which is kinda how i think people will learn

Why don't they just use the criminal as fodder in the war?

 

[dududf]

the reason i kind of write this is because i kind of like a world like in the movie starship troopers (not the whole giant bug fighting although it will be kinda cool) but the justice system and things you do wrong you are punished for extremely which is kinda how i think people will learn

Capitalization is always nice. Also punctuation is nice.
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As for Governing our prisoners the same way we saw in a T.V. show? Surely you can't be serious.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

I'd say it's an ethical abyss.

 

[The Red Spy]

Here goes an argument about morals and ethics. My opinion, there are some circumstances where I would appreciate the defendant(s) receiving the death sentence: genocide, serial killing, brutal murders which display psychosis or a mental disorder (dismemberment, unprovoked, torture) beyond all possible help (would remain dangerous for their entire lives even under supervision), serial rapists... to name a few. The general idea would be to remove those who have undoubtedly shown they are beyond help (or have refused to succumb to treatment before and re-offended) from the society they threaten to harm.

Would be great in theory, but you've still have the possibility the verdict is wrong or biased, and whereas you can release someone who's simply in a prison, you can't re-animate a body (but is that one person worth those you remove from society and the resources you save?).

Also, what happens if they are aiming for death? What happens if they are (for example) a terrorist who has been caught and faces the death penalty, if you kill them they become a martyr anyway with the help of the media without having to detonate or fire a single shot. If you don't sentence them to death however, you're shown possibly as soft. So what's your answer to it?

 

[Disaster Button]

Because killing people is wrong?

I often like to use this quote in times like these *ahem*
"An eye for an eye leaves the world blind " - Ghandi.

Life inprisonment is punishment enough as long as it is an actual life sentence.

 

[DemonicVixen]

You remind me of that child in 'Outnumbered' I don't know if anyone has seen it?

And no we can't just kill them, it's unethical. Unless you're a utilitarian or Hitler.

Great programme to watch, though which kid do you mean? Karen or Ben coz they are both as bad though Karen is the most chatty one and the most annoying lol...

OT:To be honest if we know for certain that they did commit a crime (especially rape or murder) then i think death is a good sentance but should only be used when the evidence is completely proven such as a video showing the murder/rape e.t.c

 

[orangebandguy]

You remind me of that child in 'Outnumbered' I don't know if anyone has seen it?

And no we can't just kill them, it's unethical. Unless you're a utilitarian or Hitler.

Great programme to watch, though which kid do you mean? Karen or Ben coz they are both as bad though Karen is the most chatty one and the most annoying lol...

OT:To be honest if we know for certain that they did commit a crime (especially rape or murder) then i think death is a good sentance but should only be used when the evidence is completely proven such as a video showing the murder/rape e.t.c

Karen, she's always on about killing people.

 

[Dancingman]

Oh god another death penalty thread, yes I understand that the poster is likely a young person who does not entirely understand the debates regarding capital punishment but I'll just finish the arguing for both sides.

For: Criminals are bastards and do not deserve to live on this earth, thus we should execute them, also, life in prison is unfair/costs more/a paid vacation.

Against: The death penalty is unethical and a relic of a bygone past.

Result: Nobody wins because it comes down to both sides thinking that they are right and smarter than the other side and thus, no progress is made.

 

[iml337rofl]

i ask myself that same question. we should just kill them.

 

[dls182]

If you really want to punish someone, life imprisonment is the way to go. However, a life sentence should be just that - LIFE.

A life sentence brings about a lot more suffering and loss than the death sentence. Executions are done humanely and are over fairly quick. Whereas being in prison means giving up all of your freedoms, privileges and the niceties of a normal life.

On that note, if you are sentenced to life in prison, you should spend the rest of your natural life in prison. No exceptions, no time off, nothing (unless evidence comes up that clears you). Currently, a life sentence actually means 20 years in jail (in Australia, not sure in the US).

And, OP, a little punctuation goes a long way

 

[iml337rofl]

true that. i'd rather die than get raped every day in prison.

 

[Wadders]

Aside from what everybody else has already said, a life sentence isn't usually for life, that is, the accused does not usually stay imprisoned until their dying day. They're up for parole after like 25 years or so, and good behavior etc can get sentences reduced.

I'm no expert, but that's the impression I get, hence executing someone is not really the equivalent of a life sentence.

Put 'em all into penal armies I say