Serenity

[FarleShadow]

I say this: Shut it.
Serenity or Firefly ended as it should, a series with limited scope, ending with a good ending. Had they continued it, I'm sure it would have de-volved into Mal sleeping with everyone, everyone else sleeping with everyone else, River evolving DBZ-esque powers and saving the universe by exploding with fanboy-levels of sexual tension.

It was a good 'verse, lets not pretend it could have topped the first series/movie charts without failure.

 

[New Troll]

I say this: Shut it.
Serenity or Firefly ended as it should, a series with limited scope, ending with a good ending. Had they continued it, I'm sure it would have de-volved into Mal sleeping with everyone, everyone else sleeping with everyone else, River evolving DBZ-esque powers and saving the universe by exploding with fanboy-levels of sexual tension.

It was a good 'verse, lets not pretend it could have topped the first series/movie charts without failure.

Reminds me of The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. I personally would have liked another season of Firefly though. No more than one or two though!

 

[AssassinJoe]

Yeah.............

The only problem I had with the movie is that they never explained just who the fuck book was.

FOX should be strung up by the balls for canceling such a great series.

 

[dlsevern]

I say this: Shut it.
Serenity or Firefly ended as it should, a series with limited scope, ending with a good ending. Had they continued it, I'm sure it would have de-volved into Mal sleeping with everyone, everyone else sleeping with everyone else, River evolving DBZ-esque powers and saving the universe by exploding with fanboy-levels of sexual tension.

It was a good 'verse, lets not pretend it could have topped the first series/movie charts without failure.

Firefly awesomeness is equal to that of Star Wars or Star Trek, except it had better actors than either of those two.

 

[FarleShadow]

I say this: Shut it.
Serenity or Firefly ended as it should, a series with limited scope, ending with a good ending. Had they continued it, I'm sure it would have de-volved into Mal sleeping with everyone, everyone else sleeping with everyone else, River evolving DBZ-esque powers and saving the universe by exploding with fanboy-levels of sexual tension.

It was a good 'verse, lets not pretend it could have topped the first series/movie charts without failure.

Firefly awesomeness is equal to that of Star Wars or Star Trek, except it had better actors than either of those two.

One of those infinitely stupid debatables, does SW=ST=Ff? The Answer is: Eh, if you feel your personal series is better the X-Series then well done, you win, just as everyone else wins in 'Its your own goddamn opinion' or 'IYOGO' awards'.

 

[Anachronism]

I mean they killed off one of the most mysterious characters after hinting at his long, complicated history for the past for 12 episodes. The only line that gave closure was him saying, "No I don't." It would have been worth at least 2 more seasons to find out exactly who and what he was in my opinion.

1. To me, Book is like Wolverine, in that the less we know about his past, the more interesting he is. No, we didn't get much closure, but we got more than enough clues to put together a decent idea of who he used to be.
2. Now that The Shepherd's Tale has been published, it's irrelevant anyway.

Then they turned the doctor into this ballsy superhero type at the opening scene and impaled the comic relief just go put the sister to some kind of use at the end

The point of the opening scene was that Simon can be brave and ballsy when he has the time to prepare, and when he needs to be. Go watch him in Jaynestown; he utterly fails to convince as someone who wants to "buy some mud". With time and resources, he can be genuinely intimidating; the point of it was that he'd be prepared to do anything to save his little sister.

And sorry, what? They killed Wash because they had to. The result of his death was that you honestly believed the crew might not have made it out of there alive (or I did, at least); if he hadn't died, there would have been no suspense, as you would've known there was no way they were going to die. It gave the ending an emotional punch it would have lacked otherwise, and, while it's no doubt unfortunate that he died (as I said earlier, I cry at that bit), it was still necessary.

Also, I find it more than a little puzzling that you claim to love Firefly, and yet all you did in that post was complain about Serenity. It's a great film. And it wasn't as if Whedon had much choice in the matter; Serenity was Firefly's last hurrah and he knew it. He had to finish the story.

Besides, if Firefly had gone on longer, it might have lapsed in quality, and it wouldn't have the beloved cult following that it does now.

Because BtVS doesn't have a large cult following at ALL.

I said that if it had continued, it might have lapsed in quality, and it might have lost its cult following. I was merely providing one possibility, in any case; even if the quality had dropped, it might still have had a cult following. Who can say?

 

[PureChaos]

Don't blame FOX, blame all the people who didn't watch it when it aired.

No viewers = no show.

EDIT: So because people didn't see the Pilot episode first, it's the fault of FOX that nobody watched the show....okay, fine. What ever helps ya sleep at night...

it wasn't just that the Pilot wasn't shown first but the ENTIRE series was shown out of order, that would ruin ANY series

 

[Malkavian]

Wash: I'm a leaf on the wind, watch how I --

That scene always brings tears to my eyes.

Me too. Damn. Watching that movie and seeing all good things end, definitely... Poor, poor Wash.

 

[dlsevern]

I say this: Shut it.
Serenity or Firefly ended as it should, a series with limited scope, ending with a good ending. Had they continued it, I'm sure it would have de-volved into Mal sleeping with everyone, everyone else sleeping with everyone else, River evolving DBZ-esque powers and saving the universe by exploding with fanboy-levels of sexual tension.

It was a good 'verse, lets not pretend it could have topped the first series/movie charts without failure.

Firefly awesomeness is equal to that of Star Wars or Star Trek, except it had better actors than either of those two.

One of those infinitely stupid debatables, does SW=ST=Ff? The Answer is: Eh, if you feel your personal series is better the X-Series then well done, you win, just as everyone else wins in 'Its your own goddamn opinion' or 'IYOGO' awards'.

True, and I have to admit I was in an ornery mood yesterday, I believe I was trolling a bit.

 

[Rednog]

I watched Firefly for the first time last year, and loved every minute of it. Then craving more, I immediately watched Serenity. I was then very sad for the next day or two, for two reasons:

1) I realized that that was all there was and ever would be of Firefly. I was depressed to see such a fun and brilliant show with a lot of potential cut down before it could truly shine.

2) I didn't really enjoy Serenity. While it had the same feel of the TV show for the most part, it just didn't feel the same to me. It seemed like the movie was made in a universe where Firefly aired for 3+ seasons, and just didn't quite gel with the 12 episodes in my mind. Also, I hated...

Spoiler

...how they handled the character deaths. Mr. Universe was introduced in the movie and had a very minor role, so I didn't really care about his death and therefore it didn't contribute much to the movie.

Book's death was badly done because he was wounded in a (presumably badass) battle, but we didn't get to see it. Instead of seeing Book's blaze of glory, we just get to watch him die after the fact. And we still never got to know about his secrets.

Finally, and worst of all, was Wash's death. Why did he have to die? His death seemed so random, out-of-the-blue, and unnecessary save for adding more emotional weight to the climax. It would have been better if he had died saving the rest of the crew, but they were already safe! He landed the ship! Then WHAM, Wash is dead. I just didn't see much sense in it.

If Serenity was supposed to be Whedon's send off to Mal and the crew and a last hurrah for fans, it didn't really give a lot of closure, and instead of leaving me satisfied, I felt sad that that was it. I guess I had just expected more.

So yes, it made me sad. To the point where I almost wished I hadn't seen Serenity and had just stopped after Firefly.

Wash died because Alan Tudyk his actor specifically asked for him to be killed, he didn't want to continue playing the roll if there ever was some sort of reboot or if the show somehow got enough of a push from the movie to come back.

 

[Koeryn]

It's kind of our fault that nobody watched it until after it was canceled.

I watched every episode aired, as it aired. It is, however, hard to watch a show in the 8 o'clock Friday slot (A slot with notoriously low viewership as people are more likely to be out and about on a Friday night), harder to stay with it when the episodes aren't in order, and even harder when Fox dropped it in order to air minor baseball games.


OT: I love the show and the movie, but it's too late to bring it back.

 

[Prince Regent]

I loved Firefly and the Universe that it created, but to be honest I just felt that Serenity destroyed the whole lonesome cowboy feeling of firefly.

I't wan't bad, but I don't think the movie was as good as the series either.

 

[theComposer]

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Wash died because Alan Tudyk his actor specifically asked for him to be killed, he didn't want to continue playing the roll if there ever was some sort of reboot or if the show somehow got enough of a push from the movie to come back.

That doesn't mean his death had to be randomly thrown in. Whedon could have set it up much better, or just not killed Wash at all. Heck, Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die, but George Lucas didn't do anything about that, now did he?

 

[Rednog]

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Wash died because Alan Tudyk his actor specifically asked for him to be killed, he didn't want to continue playing the roll if there ever was some sort of reboot or if the show somehow got enough of a push from the movie to come back.

That doesn't mean his death had to be randomly thrown in. Whedon could have set it up much better, or just not killed Wash at all. Heck, Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die, but George Lucas didn't do anything about that, now did he?

Yea but despite Tudyk apparently being insanely hard to work with Whedon and Tudyk are friends. One could assume that Whedon just caved into a friend's request. Also, from what I remember when someone asked about the death being oddly placed, apparently the death was asked during the shooting and they had to crowbar it in. Plus Lucas knew for sure there was going to be a 3rd movie in his franchise (Ford asked to be killed off at the end of the 2nd) whereas Whedon's odds of resurrecting Firefly after Serenity were slim.

 

[theComposer]

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Wash died because Alan Tudyk his actor specifically asked for him to be killed, he didn't want to continue playing the roll if there ever was some sort of reboot or if the show somehow got enough of a push from the movie to come back.

That doesn't mean his death had to be randomly thrown in. Whedon could have set it up much better, or just not killed Wash at all. Heck, Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die, but George Lucas didn't do anything about that, now did he?

Yea but despite Tudyk apparently being insanely hard to work with Whedon and Tudyk are friends. One could assume that Whedon just caved into a friend's request. Also, from what I remember when someone asked about the death being oddly placed, apparently the death was asked during the shooting and they had to crowbar it in. Plus Lucas knew for sure there was going to be a 3rd movie in his franchise (Ford asked to be killed off at the end of the 2nd) whereas Whedon's odds of resurrecting Firefly after Serenity were slim.

Fair enough. I guess I just liked Wash (well, I liked all of them) and didn't like the the fact that he died and how it happened.