Seriously, stop calling it the "God Particle"

[HotFezz8]

I work on the ATLAS project at the LHC

course you do.

Yeah, I guess the people who work there don't know how to use the Internet. They don't have lives and go home of a night, play games or anything like that.

i severely doubt they go onto the escapist.

in all seriousness; i do not, and will never, believe the author of this thread. it strikes me as infinitely more likely to be some 14 year old sat at home who has access to some very good text books.

 

[kouriichi]

I never called it the "God Particle".

I call it the "Nathan Fillion Particle".

 

[ninjajoeman]

Oh I thought it was the best particle system ever developed.

 

[M920CAIN]

I've never heard of Higgs Boson or God Particle. Does this make me an ignorant?

 

[somonels]

Science always hypes up things that end up being huge duds.
You need an example? The human genome, was prophesied to be the be-all end-all cure for every disease ever. Remember nucluar power? Clean and free energy for all.

 

[Kurt Horsting]

But if the Higgs Boson it isn't the god particle, then how can we have mass?


Ok, that was a terrible joke.

 

[TheEnglishman]

Yeah, I think the whole religion thing and the argument that "Your going where man isn't supposed to go! God's Domain!" isn't very valid in most cases, especially with the Higs Boson, providing you don't cause a black hole that will consume the world I'm fine, it'll just probably take me a little while to comprehend what you've done.

 

[Tentickles]

Next time start talking about the "Stupid Particle" that seems to follow you around when the layman tries to start a conversation with you that is clearly beyond their grasp.

 

[StBishop]

You'll probably be happy to hear that I've literally NEVER heard it referred to as the "God Particle". Always the Higgs Boson.

But I'm sure you realize how impossible it will be to get everyone to stop calling it that without some form of official statement. A colloquialism like that is hard to weed out.

This. And I'm an undergrad who's only brush with physics so far has been Newton's Laws, friction and collisions, trajectories, Bernoulli's Principal etc. Really broad strokes stuff.

So yeah, lucky us I suppose.

 

[dyre]

Frankly, i would not bother with reading religous texts unless your interested in finding outdated moral standards or actually are looking for God.

"Its not important.

I think you misunderstand, I wouldn't read the bible to try and understand philosophy, morals or the natural world. I'd read it to try and understand Christians.
edit: I don't mean this offensively, "Christians are incomprehensible" or anything like that. I simply mean that there are a lot of Christians, the Christian faith as a whole has had a massive impact on world history and by definition they do believe in some aspects of the book, either literally or figuratively. This is why I say it's important.

ehh, I dont think reading it would give you much understanding of them since catholics arnt even allowed to read the bible and protestants all have their own interpretation of it, hell there is some offshoot of protestantism that thinks jesus wanted the best people to get as much money as possible

shows what you know about Christianity, lol. Catholics aren't allowed to read the Bible? Not since the Middle Ages, dude. And Protestantism is generally even more interested in the Bible, whereas Catholics are sometimes stuck in a lot of tradition.

no, the only official source of the bible for catholics are the priests
protestants are more interested in the bible but they also interpret the crap out of it to really support anything they want

nah, that's incorrect. It's true that the Church wants to guide Catholics in interpreting the Bible, but it also encourages Catholics to read it too. Though, I don't blame you for thinking Catholics don't read the Bible, since for a long time they couldn't do it, and Catholics today read it less than Protestants do.

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0402fea3.asp

As for Protestants interpreting the Bible, well yeah, the Bible happens to be easily interpreted into lots of different messages...anyways, it sure beats the Catholics and their "support the Vatican's view forever" beliefs...

 

[Jegsimmons]

didn't even know what the higgs boson thing was till now (never cared) but now i know what to call it, the god particle.
mostly just out of shear spite....and i think it sounds better.

 

[Mordwyl]

But... Higgs Boson sounds so much cooler.

 

[Denamic]

Yeah, sorry, but your problem wasn't actually with the nickname of the particle.
Your problem was that you were talking to a creationist and expecting him to listen to you.
They love asking you questions like "Then why is this and that like this" and my favorite, "How do you explain THAT?!".
Which is just shifting the burden of proof.
They have no actual interest in your answer or the subject in question; they just hope that you won't be able to answer.
If it wasn't the 'God Particle', he would have asked some other kind of asinine question.

 

[Worgen]

Frankly, i would not bother with reading religous texts unless your interested in finding outdated moral standards or actually are looking for God.

"Its not important.

I think you misunderstand, I wouldn't read the bible to try and understand philosophy, morals or the natural world. I'd read it to try and understand Christians.
edit: I don't mean this offensively, "Christians are incomprehensible" or anything like that. I simply mean that there are a lot of Christians, the Christian faith as a whole has had a massive impact on world history and by definition they do believe in some aspects of the book, either literally or figuratively. This is why I say it's important.

ehh, I dont think reading it would give you much understanding of them since catholics arnt even allowed to read the bible and protestants all have their own interpretation of it, hell there is some offshoot of protestantism that thinks jesus wanted the best people to get as much money as possible

shows what you know about Christianity, lol. Catholics aren't allowed to read the Bible? Not since the Middle Ages, dude. And Protestantism is generally even more interested in the Bible, whereas Catholics are sometimes stuck in a lot of tradition.

no, the only official source of the bible for catholics are the priests
protestants are more interested in the bible but they also interpret the crap out of it to really support anything they want

nah, that's incorrect. It's true that the Church wants to guide Catholics in interpreting the Bible, but it also encourages Catholics to read it too. Though, I don't blame you for thinking Catholics don't read the Bible, since for a long time they couldn't do it, and Catholics today read it less than Protestants do.

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0402fea3.asp

As for Protestants interpreting the Bible, well yeah, the Bible happens to be easily interpreted into lots of different messages...anyways, it sure beats the Catholics and their "support the Vatican's view forever" beliefs...

the church isnt going to go to a catholics house and beat them but you wont find many catholics that read the thing

 

[lacktheknack]

You'll probably be happy to hear that I've literally NEVER heard it referred to as the "God Particle". Always the Higgs Boson.

Same here.

But then, I'm in computer sciences and found pretty much all molecular sciences to be overwhelming, so I don't pay that much attention.

You have a point, though. I saw this thread title and immediately made a connection between "God particle" and "Particle that, if it exists, replaces God".

 

[kidd25]

Never heard it called that - but I see what you're saying.

I think that the term 'God particle' is a bit self-conflicting, mixing religious and scientific terminology together.

That's like calling gravity the 'Christ force'

Christ Force is awesome!

religious and science satire, i wonder why it never caught on? Oh yeah the whiners.

 

[Nimcha]

Science always hypes up things that end up being huge duds.
You need an example? The human genome, was prophesied to be the be-all end-all cure for every disease ever. Remember nucluar power? Clean and free energy for all.

I think you'll find that not science does that, but people do that.

 

[sofur]

The idea of the 'big bang' and how Higgs-Bosons are related to the beginning of the universe are cool because if it is in fact the origin of our universe then we can purport that faster than light travel is a possibility, albeit a difficult one. As for having a conceptual and unproven vector of science being claimed to be the pinnacle of creation and spatial manipulation, that editor needed a good firm back-hand if not for how often similar things seem to happen.

The other big thing I will troll over-zealous religious people over (besides how many holes their faith has and how blind they are) is that science does not have the ability to determine whether god(s) do or do not exist. At least for the foreseeable future. In the mean time, I'll go read a book on string theory and thank the universe for the life that I have.

 

[SFR]

I can really understand your distaste for the nickname due to this conversation. That must have been unbelievably annoying. Frankly, I don't mind the term God Particle, simply because it sounds cool. It really doesn't prove or disprove anything related to God though. In that respect alone, it should really just be called the Higgs Boson. I hope your experience doesn't lead you to believe that all Christians (or any religious folk) are this annoying.

One problem I have with the name "Higgs Boson" though is because... well it's saying that this Higgs guy owns it. I envy him for getting such an important concept named after him though.

 

[v3n0mat3]

When I first heard the term coined, immediately my mind turned to "this is such an important discovery, so we will call it the "god particle", denoting that it is indeed something very very important." Not any religious meaning behind the term. I still don't think it.