Are you honestly concerned that if mature video games were made, the development of games for kids would cease to exist? You're not protecting anything. I'm okay if you don't want mature content in the video games that you play, but to argue to deny others is selfish.Cheeze_Pavilion said:Maybe we're 100 percent okay with that.Echolocating said:The part that I don't understand with people who are protecting the way games are today is that by doing so, you are condemning them to simply being a child's toy. You are giving more fuel to the ignorance surrounding games in the adult world, specifically with the people that regulate these things and those that use fear mongering to scare the uneducated masses (parents). A single movie might come under fire, but not the film industry, yet the entire videogame industry is under fire in most cases because it's supposedly a dangerous toy for children. If you allow yourself to imagine video gaming as a powerful medium that has limitless potential for expression, you allow the industry to grow. With those kinds of thoughts, video games begin to offer something more than childish experiences and become a more respectable industry and medium.
Maybe we think that instead of trying to protect games by making them 'serious' we'd rather see society find value in something that is 'just a toy'. Maybe we think play--even childish play--is an important liberty worthy of protection.
Yeah, look how film, music, and literature have suffered. Give me a break.Cheeze_Pavilion said:Maybe we don't want to continue to give the fearmongers even more power than they have now by conforming, by allowing them to use another medium to advance the idea that 'adult=immoral' and 'safe for children=good'. Maybe we want to break the connection between something being inappropriate for children and something being morally questionable or obscene.
There's nothing wrong with that. I've never said there was. I simply want diversity; not to eliminate the types of games currently being made... because why would I deny others something that they enjoy? Hmmm?Cheeze_Pavilion said:I don't get what is so bad about something being a "child's toy": games like _Civilization_ and _Railroad Tycoon_ are electronic versions of playing with the action figures or toy trains which children enjoy, only in versions complex enough to hold the interest of adults. What's the problem with that?
Because I'm grumpy... and still amazed that someone is arguing that by making mature video games (something I'd like to play), that would somehow affect their enjoyment that they have for the way games currently are.Cheeze_Pavilion said:Why do you talk of "toys" or things that are "childish" in such a negative fashion?
I don't care about their respect. I just think that having mature games would have the added benefit of showing these types of people that video games are not evil. I don't think developers should make it their mission to convince these people either way.Cheeze_Pavilion said:Why do you care about the respect of people who don't recognize the value of play?
Ready for round 2, Cheese?