Sexual liberation

[Nickolai77]

The public attitude towards sexuality that condemns the natural, the human body, must weigh on the mind of most of us.

I wouldn't really know about that, i never got the impression that there were many people advancing public nudity. There's this naked rambler here in the UK who keeps on getting arrested for repeatedly hiking in the nude and there isn't exactly a public outcry against him being given jail sentences.

I don't think there are many people who want to see other peoples naked bodies quite frankly. I remember going through the showers coming out of a swimming pool in Germany and seeing an old man naked in the nude. It wasn't a pleasant sight at all. I'm all in favour of nudist beaches, and even nude nature trails if they are properly enclosed from the general public, but i'd rather not see the average layperson in the nude.

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

The public attitude towards sexuality that condemns the natural, the human body, must weigh on the mind of most of us.

I wouldn't really know about that, i never got the impression that there were many people advancing public nudity. There's this naked rambler here in the UK who keeps on getting arrested for repeatedly hiking in the nude and there isn't exactly a public outcry against him being given jail sentences.

I don't think there are many people who want to see other peoples naked bodies quite frankly. I remember going through the showers coming out of a swimming pool in Germany and seeing an old man naked in the nude. It wasn't a pleasant sight at all. I'm all in favour of nudist beaches, and even nude nature trails if they are properly enclosed from the general public, but i'd rather not see the average layperson in the nude.

Then don't look at them. You'd be surprised, when public nudity is legal for a few years you wouldn't even look twice at anyone. And more importantly, kids wouldn't see it as anything out of the ordinary, and sex/nudity wouldn't be taboo or something desirable to engage in simply because of the rebellion factor.

Compare it to something like public kissing. Shocking to some societies, perfectly normal in the modern west.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Your first time will not be awesome. Passionate yes, but not awesome.

You're not shattering any illusions here. I'm well aware of this. I'm just not about to go practicing with people I don't want to spend the rest of my life with and that's a personal choice. It'll be a process getting good at sex, yes, but I only want one partner to practice with. Emotions trump overall physical experience for me and I'll learn from the ground up when it comes to it.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

Your first time will not be awesome. Passionate yes, but not awesome.

You're not shattering any illusions here. I'm well aware of this. I'm just not about to go practicing with people I don't want to spend the rest of my life with and that's a personal choice. It'll be a process getting good at sex, yes, but I only want one partner to practice with. Emotions trump overall physical experience for me and I'll learn from the ground up when it comes to it.

As I said, good for you, I hope everything works out the way you planned it, and I say that without any hint of irony, sarcasm or my usual snark.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

*shrug* I?m a 16-year-old (17 in less than a month) virgin whose degree of sexual experience extends to multiple masturbation sessions over a variety of debauched fetish porn. Outside of the protective realm of my secret files tucked up in my computer in my confined yet content bedroom, I?m an awkward introvert who never wears shorts and has to judge extra carefully whether or not I can comfortably talk to a girl without making a fool out of myself.

I don?t really think too much about when or how I?m going to lose my virginity. I have other stuff, bigger things, to worry about, and besides?I figure it?ll happen eventually. That?s not idealistic of me; don?t you see the most slovenly-looking guys somehow locking arms with quite pretty girls? Heck, just look at the messy match-ups bunged together on the likes of The Jeremy Kyle Show. If that can happen in this fucked-up world, I think even little ol? me has a chance.

So am I a sexually liberated person? I dunno. I?m open-minded, but I guess I can?t really know until I ever get beyond more than just kissing a girl (and that was when I was 12; in that time, a good deal of my friends have gotten snogs, blowjobs, fingering, actual intercourse ? one of them have even done anal ? which is a bit annoying because I?m fed up of hearing how good it was). I am a bit worried about possible sexual inadequacy (from both parties, myself and my partner), STDs, and pregnancy (I?ve honestly been thinking of just getting a vasectomy when I?m 18, because, due to my selfish nature, I definitely don?t want sprogs running around my house and wrecking my life).

 

[Vault101]

So, my question for all genders, sexualities, and species is, do you feel sexually liberated? Is that important to you?

here somtbing I figured

[b/]I think society doesnt focus enough on female sexuality[/b]

and by that I dont mean our objectification of females (obviiously) I mean women and how they enjoy sex and all that

theres that old "double standard" issue, a guy is congradulated for having lots of sex...and girl is shamed and decalred a "slut"

that and its pretty much a "given" in our popular culture that young men are sex crazed..and into porn and all that..its normal

yet women and such being into porn (aside form this 50 shades of grey thing) is not quite a "thing"

its like a hold over from the days of treating a womens virginity has a "sacred thing" and the Idea that women should be "pure" and virginal...I thono society as a whole still has a kind of "virgin/whore" complex

as for me personally...havnt been there...and to even [b/]go there[/b] I'd have to start being social and all that and thats just like.....its like climbing everest...

 

[Verlander]

Never felt oppressed really. I do what I like, and when I like, with who I like, and my fiancé is the same. Easy peasy.

 

[Whateveralot]

How can I feel liberated, when I never felt as if I were not free?

 

[Bigsmith]

Ok I'm male but I feel that 'Sexual liberation' of either genders won't happen until people realize that some people choose to not have sex.

This is of course as well as people getting over who (gender) people have sex with, in what manner, and including what objects.

Until people can go about their sex lives without having to worry what other people will think of them only then will we have 'sexual liberation', until then there will always be a group of people that are discriminated for simply enjoying a specific fetish.

Expect for people who act upon ones that are illegal such as Pedophilia and Rape.

Continuing, I also feel that this may actually leak into 'Gender Identification' because the first steps that will be required is for the people who have problems with people who have a different mental Gender to their physical sex need to grow up and just let everyone get on with their lives.

I feel that these two link up well because a persons identified gender will have an inpact on the nature of their sex life.

Until everyone grows up and I feel that sexual liberation is far from happening.

 

[Hagi]

I feel my sexual liberty is just fine really.

I can see how there's still a lot of room for improvement when people are still judged harshly for what two consenting adults do in private. Not to mention third world countries and such where women especially but men as well are still oppressed.

However I do feel that sometimes it's taken too far. Where people pretend having sex with someone is as casual and consequence free as sharing dinner, discounting any risk of pregnancy or STDs as well as any possible emotional impact.

Or when people are shamed for not being promiscuous, ridiculed for saving their virginity or vilified for considering sex something very intimate and special not shared with just anyone.

I realize that sexual oppression is a much greater problem that does much more harm to those suffering from it. Doubt anyone got stoned to death, disinherited, cast out or beaten up over being a virgin.

But to be honest the other side is what I personally most often encounter. Every time there's a post here on the forums about someone saving their virginity for marriage there's several hypocrites jumping on it to point out how outdated, irrational and even delusional that notion is. All the while expecting to be shown respect and acceptance of their sexual lifestyle.

As long as sex is treated responsibly, with both partners being of age, giving consent and well aware of risks of STDs and pregnancies as well as being able to deal with whatever emotional impact there may be then it's nobody else's business. And even if any of those aren't the case then it's still not your business unless you're a parent, friend or cop.

 

[shrimpcel]

Not really. Personally I find the concept of "Sexual Liberation" to be mostly (the "sexuality shouldn't be persecuted" parts are perfectly fine by my standards) a bit distasteful and lessens the emotional significance of sex. Regardless, to each his own. I plan on patience and waiting, other people don't. I don't really have a right to tell them how to act.

This^. Rather than focusing on sexual liberation I think society should be less focused on sex in the first place.

 

[Ledan]

So-so.... men's sexuality is still often seen as inherently bestial whereas women's is still seen as more "pure". E.g. A guy kissing a girl (randomly) is sexual harassment, objectification of women, and under some definitions rape. A girl kissing a random guy is either seen as a slut or as just a happy drunk girl. People would be surprised if the guy expressed objection.
Women can freely talk about sex,( on TV, in magazines, irl) , whereas men are often called sexist or misogynistic if they talk about sex in an open forum.

That said... yeah, it's pretty awesome that nowadays we don't force people to marry if they have had sex, or that we have a cultural idea that you can't have sex until you marry. Sexual education seems to be working, teen pregnancies are down, there is a social expectation that no means no, and having sex is seen as a normal function of life.
Note: different cultures have different degrees of sexual liberation and different problems. If you don't feel the above is true in your region, it doesn't necessarily mean that this is not true in my region.

 

[Lieju]

I have issues with physical contact in general, but I wouldn't say it's just a problem of sexual nature... It's sort of a problem I have with human relationships in general.

I suppose I have had issues with how the society has expected me to act, being female, but I don't think it has directly bothered me.
But it was a part of what made me sort of distance myself from humanity; as a kid I couldn't even tell girls from the boys a lot of the time, and people having stupid opinions like that girls shouldn't like bugs or that Disney-princesses were role-models, only made me think most of humanity was insane.

And when I figured I was lesbian (at the very least, that I'm sexually attracted to women, whether I'm myself a woman is debatable, but I have no problems with the label) I similarly had no personal problem with it, but considering I have been mocked and even assaulted over it, some jerks have an issue with it.

 

[Something Amyss]

Sexual liberation seems to focus on female sexuality, though you know, males are more sexually liberated now too. Not just gay guys, guys in general are free to enjoy whatever sort of sexual adventures they want legally - with some exceptions.

Of course, being a male generally meant you got to enjoy whatever sort of sexual adventures you wanted, and the law still wouldn't touch them.

So while it's legal, that's not exactly saying much in the way of liberation.

To the actual question, I'm part of a minority that not only is it still legal to hate just for existing, but sex adds an extra level of "potential for getting killed." Hooray. I feel so liberated.

[b/]I think society doesnt focus enough on female sexuality[/b]

[....]

theres that old "double standard" issue, a guy is congradulated for having lots of sex...and girl is shamed and decalred a "slut"

Just thought I'd mention these. The former's not really true, or more it's partially true. There is plenty of focus on female sexuality these days. The problem is more that it's rather shallow, superficial and one sided.

The double-standard is definitely there, which is a big problem. It's also stupid. I mean, come on. Who are all these guys having sex with if not women? I didn't think homosexuality was that widely embraced.

Women are also subject to the virgin/whore scenario. Women are split into two categories quite frequently: those who have had sex, and those who haven't. the former are whores, the latter are "pure." It's probably a remnant from a time when women were property and a good chunk of their value was in their purity. Then again, societies have had effectively "whore" classes in the past.

The other issue that comes up in terms of female sexuality is that we still have a "male as default" in our culture. But I'm tired, and lazy, so I won't go on, but still.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

I do, but then again, sex isn't really a priority in my life right not.

It's nice to know that I am able to have sex at any time without having a limit, deadline, or restrictions to what I can do (with a consenting adult woman, of course).

 

[Something Amyss]

Not really. Personally I find the concept of "Sexual Liberation" to be mostly (the "sexuality shouldn't be persecuted" parts are perfectly fine by my standards) a bit distasteful and lessens the emotional significance of sex. Regardless, to each his own. I plan on patience and waiting, other people don't. I don't really have a right to tell them how to act.

This^. Rather than focusing on sexual liberation I think society should be less focused on sex in the first place.

Of course, we kind of have to get through sexual liberation before we can get to that point.

 

[Playful Pony]

Where I come from? Yeah, I feel liberated and happy in mysexuality. I don't NEED to give a fuck, because most of the time there are at least SOMEONE out there with the same sexual fantasies and interests, that would like to hook up for a good time =3. I haven't been with anyone for well over a year now though, some seriously bad experiences in relationships have completely turned me off the idea... Oh yes, I entertain myself these days.

The world in general still has a way to go before it's free of sexual opression. Even countries considered forward and liberal have lingering hate and ignorance on the subject of sex and sexuality. Sad stuff... Lets combat it by having MORE free, open and kinky sex! =D

 

[Canadamus Prime]

No and no. I have a hard enough time wrapping my head around even the basics of sexuality, all the extra karma sutra crap just terrifies me.

 

[game-lover]

I don't really feel all that liberated. And I don't consider it all that important.

That's probably because I'm a pretty big prude. All this extra freedom about sex and sexual things isn't the least bit appealing to my eyes.

 

[Hagi]

people pretend having sex with someone is as casual and consequence free as sharing dinner, discounting any risk of pregnancy or STDs as well as any possible emotional impact.

"Pretend"? The risk of pregnancy and STDs can be made negligible and not a lot of people are going to fall in love with someone just because they fucked.

And yet we have thousands upon thousands of accidental pregnancies.

We have thousands upon thousands of STD infections even in countries where condoms are freely and easily available.

We have the very, very common complaint, both from guys and girls, that they were used for sex.

Most of it easily preventable by treating sex more seriously.

Or when people are shamed for not being promiscuous, ridiculed for saving their virginity or vilified for considering sex something very intimate and special not shared with just anyone.

...aaaaand we go straight from something that hasn't existed for 50 years to something that won't exist for at least another 50.

You live in a very, very small world don't you?

Both complaints are very much alive. The former quite serious and with sometimes fatal consequences. The latter not nearly so harmful but still quite annoying.